Do you wish McAuliffe had been nominated instead?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Now, yes. If anyone deserved to be brutally humiliated like this it's that piece of human garbage. Plus that would destroy his political career forever.

[Lief 🗽]

yes, because we would have only lost by 10 points, rather than 18 or whatever.

[tmthforu94]

Nope.
I'm perfectly content with the results. Something crazy could have happened if McAuliffe had been the nominee and he could have won. A gaffe could have occured or something.

[Lunar]

McAuliffe wouldn't need to get a crap ton of millions of dollars from the DNC like Deeds did.  And he's funnier.  But I don't think the Democrats should really nominate joke candidates just cuz it's funny.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Deeds was an awful candidate. Look no further than his most passionate supporters to see jsut how much he sucks.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Deeds was an awful candidate. Look no further than his most passionate supporters to see jsut how much he sucks.

Is that a shot at me?  And to answer the question, no.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Deeds was an awful candidate. Look no further than his most passionate supporters to see jsut how much he sucks.

Is that a shot at me?  And to answer the question, no.

If you have to ask, then probably.

[Lunar]

Nope.
I'm perfectly content with the results. Something crazy could have happened if McAuliffe had been the nominee and he could have won. A gaffe could have occured or something.

One of Deeds problems was that he was too honest.  He wouldn't promise to lower taxes and raise spending all the while lowering the deficit.  Terry would do that in a heartbeat.  

heh

[tmthforu94]

Oh, I like Deeds a lot. I was actually undecided on this race for a while. Ben picked an excellent candidate to support, though he isn't as good as McDonnell. I wouldn't have any problem with Deeds as Governor. I think he has the honesty and integrity that is desperately needed nowadays.

[paul718]

Would Moran have performed better?

[Alexander Hamilton]

Would Moran have performed better?

No.

[HappyWarrior]

Would Moran have performed better?

He would have lost by 10% instead of 20.

[War on Want]

I wish Moran had been nominated.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Moran might have at least motivated Northern Virginia Dems to show up so that 3, possibly 4, incumbent Delegates wouldn't have been defeated.

But it's all hindsight.

[paul718]

Would Moran have performed better?

He would have lost by 10% instead of 20.

I have to admit I hadn't paid too much attention to this race.  But I recall being distinctly surprised that Moran didn't win the nomination.  Didn't he have the VADem establishment behind him? 

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Oh, I like Deeds a lot. I was actually undecided on this race for a while. Ben picked an excellent candidate to support, though he isn't as good as McDonnell. I wouldn't have any problem with Deeds as Governor. I think he has the honesty and integrity that is desperately needed nowadays.

A candidate that loses by 18% is hardly an excellent candidate. I admire Ben's steadfast support, seeing as I supported Giuliani to the very end in 2008, but there is no denying Deeds was a horrible candidate in this race. He lost most of Northern Virginia for God's sake.

[Sam Spade]

The difference wouldn't have been as great as you'd like to think.

[Smash255]

I think Moran would have been the strongest candidate.  The turnout in Northern Virginia would have been much stronger with Moran.

[Sewer]

I wish Moran had been nominated.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

It would be funny.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Deeds was an awful candidate. Look no further than his most passionate supporters to see jsut how much he sucks.

Is that a shot at me?  And to answer the question, no.

If you have to ask, then probably.

Don't you have better things to do than waste your time attacking people on an internet forum?

[Alexander Hamilton]

Deeds was an awful candidate. Look no further than his most passionate supporters to see jsut how much he sucks.

Is that a shot at me?  And to answer the question, no.

If you have to ask, then probably.

Don't you have better things to do than waste your time attacking people on an internet forum?

At 4:52 on a Wednesday? Sadly, no.

[HappyWarrior]

Would Moran have performed better?

He would have lost by 10% instead of 20.

I have to admit I hadn't paid too much attention to this race.  But I recall being distinctly surprised that Moran didn't win the nomination.  Didn't he have the VADem establishment behind him? 

Just his brother.  The establishment never really coalesed.

[Lunar]

Would Moran have performed better?

He would have lost by 10% instead of 20.

I have to admit I hadn't paid too much attention to this race.  But I recall being distinctly surprised that Moran didn't win the nomination.  Didn't he have the VADem establishment behind him? 

Just his brother.  The establishment never really coalesed.

And as if it's not frickin' obvious who Kaine, Warner, and Webb wanted, and they're the top three elected officials in the state.  Moran had a solid bit of NoVa establishment behind him at the start, but couldn't build on that as people didn't see him viable.  And of course Terry had a lot of establishment behind him, but the Clinton name doesn't have that much influence in VA outside of African-Americans and the Southwest, and the Deeds campaign did a good job at reaching out to AA's in the primary and of course had the Southwest locked down despite Appalachian Democrats liking the Clinton brand.

But anyway, I'd say if any candidate was the establishment candidate in the primary, it was probably Deeds.  Even Obama probably would have voted for Deeds over Moran if he could have.

I *MAY* ramble about this a lot someday, and I may or may not have a lot I want to say about the subject, but one of the fundamental problems of the Deeds campaign was that they spent way too much time trying to make him into Mark Warner 2.0.  Which, although Ben may disagree, doomed them from the start.

[War on Want]

I wonder what a Moran-McDonnell map would have looked like as opposed to the Deeds-McDonnell map.