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Which party wins the White House in 2012?
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CJK
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Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 08:45:42 am »
I know it's meaningless now but since the election is exactly three years away I think it should be guaged.
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 08:59:33 am »
Obama will win. The economic cycle by then will have improved such, even though his economic policies may or may not have any influence on that, he can still take credit for the better economy, justified or not.
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 09:01:22 am »
Quote from: auburntiger on November 06, 2009, 08:59:33 am
Obama will win. The economic cycle by then will have improved such, even though his economic policies may or may not have any influence on that, he can still take credit for the better economy, justified or not.
Basically this.
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 11:00:33 am »
Quote from: auburntiger on November 06, 2009, 08:59:33 am
Obama will win. The economic cycle by then will have improved such, even though his economic policies may or may not have any influence on that, he can still take credit for the better economy, justified or not.
Well said.
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 12:53:00 pm »
Obama will win. The country will be in dire straits that will make the last days of the Bush regime look rosy, but people are stupid.
Unless the GOP nominates someone who is actually different from Obama...
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 01:03:09 pm »
If the GOP nominates a fiscal conservative, they win.
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RosettaStoned
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November 06, 2009, 01:27:28 pm »
A Republican.
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 01:32:31 pm »
A Democrat, as of now. I'm not quite sure, as it is really far away.
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Farage
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 01:34:30 pm »
Huckabee or Obama
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pbrower2a
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 03:30:06 pm »
Incumbents have won 13 of the last 18 elections (which goes back to 1900). Losers:
1. William Howard Taft -- temperamentally unsuited to the Presidency.
2. Herbert Hoover -- messed-up economy.
3. Gerald Ford -- entered the Presidency through the back door and was barely defeated in his re-election bid.
4. Jimmy Carter -- Hard luck, bad economy and the Iranian hostage situation. Got caught in a political transition from the Sough voting Democratic as a block one last time to a norm in which the South usually voted Republican. An independent candidate drew away voters who would never have voted for Ronald Reagan.
5. George H. W. Bush -- he had no idea of what to do with the Presidency in a second term.
Heck, George W. Bush and Calvin Coolidge got re-elected despite two of the weakest Presidencies ever... Obama is a much stronger President than either of those.
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November 06, 2009, 03:51:03 pm »
Quote from: pbrower2a on November 06, 2009, 03:30:06 pm
Heck, George W. Bush and Calvin Coolidge got re-elected despite two of the weakest Presidencies ever... Obama is a much stronger President than either of those.
Uh, Calvin Coolidge was an infinitely better president than Bush and Obama.
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Alexander Hamilton
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 03:55:33 pm »
Calvin Coolidge is one of our best Presidents ever, and he did not serve a weak administration. His Presidency marked one of the most popular executives ever and a prosperous America.
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November 06, 2009, 04:10:19 pm »
And since 1900, in the presidential election following one where the White House changes parties, 10 times out of 11, the new incumbent party won re-election.
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November 06, 2009, 04:33:48 pm »
Republican
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 04:46:45 pm »
Quote from: pbrower2a on November 06, 2009, 03:30:06 pm
Incumbents have won 13 of the last 18 elections (which goes back to 1900). Losers:
1. William Howard Taft -- temperamentally unsuited to the Presidency.
2. Herbert Hoover -- messed-up economy.
3. Gerald Ford -- entered the Presidency through the back door and was barely defeated in his re-election bid.
4. Jimmy Carter -- Hard luck, bad economy and the Iranian hostage situation. Got caught in a political transition from the Sough voting Democratic as a block one last time to a norm in which the South usually voted Republican. An independent candidate drew away voters who would never have voted for Ronald Reagan.
5. George H. W. Bush -- he had no idea of what to do with the Presidency in a second term.
Heck, George W. Bush and Calvin Coolidge got re-elected despite two of the weakest Presidencies ever... Obama is a much stronger President than either of those.
Uhh, Calvin Coolidge had a weak presidency? If you mean non-active then you have a point, but he definitely wasn't anywhere as loathed as Bush was. Hell, he won 54% of the popular vote against two other candidates while doing almost no campaigning.
Nice attempt at hiding your bias by using pseudointellectual type btw. You almost had me going until you said that Jimmy Carter, the only Democrat out of those five, lost due to "hard luck" while everyone else sucked.
Again, nice try.
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 04:50:44 pm »
I predict a realignment election. Despite what some people may think 2008 was not a realignment at all, merely just a reaction against the Bush years. The real change will be in 2012, regarding the situation of the GOP. Does that mean the GOP will win in 2012? I don't know, but I predict that in 2012 the American political landscape will be different than it is now.
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Giovanni
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 04:53:41 pm »
Quote from: pbrower2a on November 06, 2009, 03:30:06 pm
Incumbents have won 13 of the last 18 elections (which goes back to 1900). Losers:
1. William Howard Taft -- temperamentally unsuited to the Presidency.
2. Herbert Hoover -- messed-up economy.
3. Gerald Ford -- entered the Presidency through the back door and was barely defeated in his re-election bid.
4. Jimmy Carter -- Hard luck, bad economy and the Iranian hostage situation. Got caught in a political transition from the Sough voting Democratic as a block one last time to a norm in which the South usually voted Republican. An independent candidate drew away voters who would never have voted for Ronald Reagan.
5. George H. W. Bush -- he had no idea of what to do with the Presidency in a second term.
Heck, George W. Bush and
Calvin Coolidge
got re-elected despite two of the weakest Presidencies ever... Obama is a much stronger President than either of those.
Are you stupid?
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DariusNJ
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 05:11:30 pm »
Obama is a very good campaigner, so if his approval is around 45%, he will win.
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Bacon King
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 05:17:12 pm »
Obama will win: incumbency advantage, an upswinging economy, and his godly fundraising advantage over any Republican that would face him.
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pbrower2a
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November 06, 2009, 05:28:39 pm »
Quote from: Giovanni on November 06, 2009, 04:53:41 pm
Quote from: pbrower2a on November 06, 2009, 03:30:06 pm
Incumbents have won 13 of the last 18 elections (which goes back to 1900). Losers:
1. William Howard Taft -- temperamentally unsuited to the Presidency.
2. Herbert Hoover -- messed-up economy.
3. Gerald Ford -- entered the Presidency through the back door and was barely defeated in his re-election bid.
4. Jimmy Carter -- Hard luck, bad economy and the Iranian hostage situation. Got caught in a political transition from the Sough voting Democratic as a block one last time to a norm in which the South usually voted Republican. An independent candidate drew away voters who would never have voted for Ronald Reagan.
5. George H. W. Bush -- he had no idea of what to do with the Presidency in a second term.
Heck, George W. Bush and
Calvin Coolidge
got re-elected despite two of the weakest Presidencies ever... Obama is a much stronger President than either of those.
Are you stupid?
Coolidge may have been popular at the time, but I'm going on a historical assessment of the Presidents. Coolidge was a ticking time-bomb of a President who fostered calamities that would explode after the end of his Presidency. The speculative boom of the 1920s has obvious parallels to the one of recent years -- except that it was more in securities than in real estate. Coolidge did nothing to mute a stock market bubble that began when he was President. Hoover had been President for only six months at the time of the 1929 Stock Market Crash.
Add to that, Hoover rigidly enforced German reparations payments when the country was undergoing hyperinflation. German politicians can get some fault for deciding to inflate their way out of war debt, but Coolidge had his role. It's worth remembering that in 1932 both Germany and the United States were ready for major change in political life. We got the Second Lincoln; the Germans (barely) got the Antichrist. Some relaxation of the reparation regime might have made a huge difference in world history.
The dangerous 1915 KKK reached its peak during the second term of Calvin Coolidge.
Calvin Coolidge is remembered for practically no signature reforms of American life -- but for a boom that would eventually go bust. You can contrast him to two peacetime Republican Presidents -- TR and Eisenhower -- and those two (who were great or near-great) utterly dwarf him.
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 05:49:48 pm »
Quote from: Bacon Veep on November 06, 2009, 05:17:12 pm
Obama will win: incumbency advantage, an upswinging economy, and his godly fundraising advantage over any Republican that would face him.
tell that to John Corzine
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 05:58:48 pm »
If the Republicans nominate somebody fiscally conservative but socially moderate and with a reasonable foreign policy.
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November 06, 2009, 06:06:56 pm »
Quote from: Roosevelt Republican (LNF-MA) on November 06, 2009, 01:03:09 pm
If the GOP nominates a fiscal conservative, they win.
Oh yes, McCain was a damn socialist
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Quote from: Roosevelt Republican (LNF-MA) on November 06, 2009, 03:55:33 pm
Calvin Coolidge is one of our best Presidents ever, and he did not serve a weak administration. His Presidency marked one of the most popular executives ever and a prosperous America.
Collidge laisser-fairism is responsible in a huge part for Depression
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Re: Poll: Who wins in 2012?
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November 06, 2009, 06:10:23 pm »
Quote from: Giovanni on November 06, 2009, 04:53:41 pm
Quote from: pbrower2a on November 06, 2009, 03:30:06 pm
Incumbents have won 13 of the last 18 elections (which goes back to 1900). Losers:
1. William Howard Taft -- temperamentally unsuited to the Presidency.
2. Herbert Hoover -- messed-up economy.
3. Gerald Ford -- entered the Presidency through the back door and was barely defeated in his re-election bid.
4. Jimmy Carter -- Hard luck, bad economy and the Iranian hostage situation. Got caught in a political transition from the Sough voting Democratic as a block one last time to a norm in which the South usually voted Republican. An independent candidate drew away voters who would never have voted for Ronald Reagan.
5. George H. W. Bush -- he had no idea of what to do with the Presidency in a second term.
Heck, George W. Bush and
Calvin Coolidge
got re-elected despite two of the weakest Presidencies ever... Obama is a much stronger President than either of those.
Are you stupid?
Coolidge declined to run for reelection. 1924 cannot count as reelection, duh
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