Best rigged election of the last 10 years.

[Jacobtm]

Boy have there been some doosies of rigged-elections in these past 10 years. Iran, Zimbabwe, Russia, Afghanistan, even the USA in 2000.

But which was the best? Who pulled it off the most skillfully, seamlessly, with the fewest negative repurcussions for themselves?

I'm gonna give it to Russia/Putin, because he's the only one that I can think of who keeps stealing elections that he would win freely anyway. The majority wants him in power, and thus is fine with him stealing it...

Gotta love Russia.

[You kip if you want to...]

NY-23 2009, MN Senate 2008 and Washington Governor 2006... obviously.

[ag]

It's not called a rigged election if the results are known a few months in advance - it's just an electoral-type event, an element of a certain cargo cult with but a superficial resemblance with elections as most of us know them. In any case, Putin would loose in the cargo cult organization competition to Belarus's Lukashenka - that guy is looking better in a fake coconut helmet.

[k-onmmunist]

USA in 2000 wasn't rigged. Get over it.

[Jacobtm]

AG, rig defined:

1 : to manipulate or control usually by deceptive or dishonest means <rig an election>
2 : to fix in advance for a desired result <rig the contest>

So I think an election stolen in a surprise, and a "fixed" election both qualify as rigged. But I agree that there's something less romantic about Putin's rigging of his election and the slapdash job of let's say, Ukraine 04/05 or Florida 2000.

[ag]

AG, rig defined:

1 : to manipulate or control usually by deceptive or dishonest means <rig an election>
2 : to fix in advance for a desired result <rig the contest>

So I think an election stolen in a surprise, and a "fixed" election both qualify as rigged. But I agree that there's something less romantic about Putin's rigging of his election and the slapdash job of let's say, Ukraine 04/05 or Florida 2000.

Is having an election a prerequisite for rigging it? Because in my book they haven't had an eleciton in Russian in quite some years now.

[ChrisJG777]

USA in 2000 wasn't rigged. Get over it.

Well it certainly wasn't a "fair" election by any stretch.

[Coburn In 2012]

Boy have there been some doosies of rigged-elections in these past 10 years. Iran, Zimbabwe, Russia, Afghanistan, even the USA in 2000.

But which was the best? Who pulled it off the most skillfully, seamlessly, with the fewest negative repurcussions for themselves?

I'm gonna give it to Russia/Putin, because he's the only one that I can think of who keeps stealing elections that he would win freely anyway. The majority wants him in power, and thus is fine with him stealing it...

Gotta love Russia.

nice job working 2000 usa into your little whine.

2000 was won fare and square by Pres Bush and any one with any honor knows that.  Why cant you people let it go all ready?  We won.  you lost get over it.

[ChrisJG777]

Boy have there been some doosies of rigged-elections in these past 10 years. Iran, Zimbabwe, Russia, Afghanistan, even the USA in 2000.

But which was the best? Who pulled it off the most skillfully, seamlessly, with the fewest negative repurcussions for themselves?

I'm gonna give it to Russia/Putin, because he's the only one that I can think of who keeps stealing elections that he would win freely anyway. The majority wants him in power, and thus is fine with him stealing it...

Gotta love Russia.

nice job working 2000 usa into your little whine.

2000 was won fare and square by Pres Bush and any one with any honor knows that.  Why cant you people let it go all ready?  We won.  you lost get over it.

Definitely dropped on his head as a baby...

[k-onmmunist]

Boy have there been some doosies of rigged-elections in these past 10 years. Iran, Zimbabwe, Russia, Afghanistan, even the USA in 2000.

But which was the best? Who pulled it off the most skillfully, seamlessly, with the fewest negative repurcussions for themselves?

I'm gonna give it to Russia/Putin, because he's the only one that I can think of who keeps stealing elections that he would win freely anyway. The majority wants him in power, and thus is fine with him stealing it...

Gotta love Russia.

nice job working 2000 usa into your little whine.

2000 was won fare and square by Pres Bush and any one with any honor knows that.  Why cant you people let it go all ready?  We won.  you lost get over it.

Definitely dropped on his head as a baby...

As much as I hate to say it, he's right.

[dead0man]

Facts are meaningless when insulting someone attempting to defend Bush.

[ChrisJG777]

Boy have there been some doosies of rigged-elections in these past 10 years. Iran, Zimbabwe, Russia, Afghanistan, even the USA in 2000.

But which was the best? Who pulled it off the most skillfully, seamlessly, with the fewest negative repurcussions for themselves?

I'm gonna give it to Russia/Putin, because he's the only one that I can think of who keeps stealing elections that he would win freely anyway. The majority wants him in power, and thus is fine with him stealing it...

Gotta love Russia.

nice job working 2000 usa into your little whine.

2000 was won fare and square by Pres Bush and any one with any honor knows that.  Why cant you people let it go all ready?  We won.  you lost get over it.

Definitely dropped on his head as a baby...

As much as I hate to say it, he's right.

If the 2000 US Presidential, or for that matter, any US Presidential election was truly fair, the popular vote would've decided the victor all the time.  Now indeed, most of the time the EC winner is also the PV winner, but 2000 was the most recent example of how screwed up the American Presidential election system really is.  So, whilst not rigged (I most certainly don't think it was), Bush won unfairly in 2000 as he was not ahead in the popular vote.  If he was ahead in the nationwide PV, I would not be typing this right now.

As for Coburn, 'tis best that you're not caught agreeing with him, for obvious reasons.

[dead0man]

Especially on the rare occasion when he's right.

[k-onmmunist]

Yes, Bush won unfairly. But he won according to the American system, and people need to accept that. If you don't like it, take up FPTP or PR or something. It would probably make more sense.

[JohnFKennedy]

Yes, Bush won unfairly. But he won according to the American system, and people need to accept that. If you don't like it, take up FPTP or PR or something. It would probably make more sense.

Yeah, I am going to say taking up proportional representation for presidential elections is not the best/most feasible idea...but I'd simply love to be proved wrong on that one.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yes, Bush won unfairly. But he won according to the American system, and people need to accept that. If you don't like it, take up FPTP or PR or something. It would probably make more sense.

Yeah, I am going to say taking up proportional representation for presidential elections is not the best/most feasible idea...but I'd simply love to be proved wrong on that one.

Technically, a FPTP system in a single-seat election is a proportionnal method.

[Platypus]

Florida was a moment of deep shame to the American political system, including both the major parties.

As for the question, Russia does it pretty seemlessly.

[Psychic Octopus]

Florida was a moment of deep shame to the American political system, including both the major parties.

As for the question, Russia does it pretty seemlessly.

Indeed, well spoken. Florida was the paramount of flaw in the American political system.

[ag]

USA in 2000 wasn't rigged. Get over it.

Well it certainly wasn't a "fair" election by any stretch.

It was as fair as any election that has ever happened in the US or UK. Might not qualify as fair in your book - but you sure have high standards.

[ag]

Boy have there been some doosies of rigged-elections in these past 10 years. Iran, Zimbabwe, Russia, Afghanistan, even the USA in 2000.

But which was the best? Who pulled it off the most skillfully, seamlessly, with the fewest negative repurcussions for themselves?

I'm gonna give it to Russia/Putin, because he's the only one that I can think of who keeps stealing elections that he would win freely anyway. The majority wants him in power, and thus is fine with him stealing it...

Gotta love Russia.

nice job working 2000 usa into your little whine.

2000 was won fare and square by Pres Bush and any one with any honor knows that.  Why cant you people let it go all ready?  We won.  you lost get over it.

Definitely dropped on his head as a baby...

As much as I hate to say it, he's right.

If the 2000 US Presidential, or for that matter, any US Presidential election was truly fair, the popular vote would've decided the victor all the time. 

What the hell does it have w/ a fair conduct of elections?

[ag]

As for the question, Russia does it pretty seemlessly.

No it doesn't. It simply chose not to run elections that would even qualify as rigged: unless, of course, a "rigged election" doesn't have to be an "election" in the first place.

[Franzl]

Question: What percentage of posters actually think before they type?