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« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2009, 01:48:32 AM »

1- that might be the slightest of exaggerations
2- why not extrapolate that for every divergent vote?  he votes for a pro-choice judge or something and he'll have voted for the "holocaust of millions of babies" and so on.  That sort of rhetoric just destroys all meaning to politics until it becomes a rhetorical if not literal circle-jerk.
Politics is a filthy business to begin with, but I don't see a problem with looking at the bigger picture with regard to each individual vote.

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You mean more good than harm for his political career, not for the country. Fortunately the Dems will just have to nominate any black man they could find to easily take back the seat.

"Fortunately"?..... you do realize that "any black man" will vote Pelosi's position 99.9% of the time, right?
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« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2009, 01:49:31 AM »

some people still think coalitions are built by subtraction, it's hilarious.   If Cao-clones occupied all of those Democratic districts, a far-fight agenda would fly through Washington like a laser through melted butter
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« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2009, 01:49:46 AM »


If Cao has Democratic values, why should he remain in the GOP?


He voted against the Obama Stimulus and Cap-and-trade.  But you say he has "Democratic values"?

He made it clear that he wouldn't vote for the Health Care bill unless it clearly protected the unborn.  Democratic values?
The Republicans claim to be a party that supports free market solutions and restrained government. Why shouldn't their members be expected to live up to the rhetoric?

The Republicans claim to be a lot of things.  If we made each one of those things a litmus test, we wouldn't have more than thirty members of Congress.
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« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2009, 01:50:04 AM »

1- that might be the slightest of exaggerations
2- why not extrapolate that for every divergent vote?  he votes for a pro-choice judge or something and he'll have voted for the "holocaust of millions of babies" and so on.  That sort of rhetoric just destroys all meaning to politics until it becomes a rhetorical if not literal circle-jerk.
Politics is a filthy business to begin with, but I don't see a problem with looking at the bigger picture with regard to each individual vote.

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You mean more good than harm for his political career, not for the country. Fortunately the Dems will just have to nominate any black man they could find to easily take back the seat.

"Fortunately"?..... you do realize that "any black man" will vote Pelosi's position 99.9% of the time, right?
Better to have an open enemy than a backstabber.
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« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2009, 01:50:37 AM »

some people still think coalitions are built by subtraction, it's hilarious

Not just subtraction, but division - and any other mathematical applications that result in fewer members and voters.
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« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2009, 01:52:39 AM »

1- that might be the slightest of exaggerations
2- why not extrapolate that for every divergent vote?  he votes for a pro-choice judge or something and he'll have voted for the "holocaust of millions of babies" and so on.  That sort of rhetoric just destroys all meaning to politics until it becomes a rhetorical if not literal circle-jerk.
Politics is a filthy business to begin with, but I don't see a problem with looking at the bigger picture with regard to each individual vote.

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You mean more good than harm for his political career, not for the country. Fortunately the Dems will just have to nominate any black man they could find to easily take back the seat.

"Fortunately"?..... you do realize that "any black man" will vote Pelosi's position 99.9% of the time, right?
Better to have an open enemy than a backstabber.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor."

-- Ronald Reagan
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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2009, 01:53:13 AM »


If Cao has Democratic values, why should he remain in the GOP?


He voted against the Obama Stimulus and Cap-and-trade.  But you say he has "Democratic values"?

He made it clear that he wouldn't vote for the Health Care bill unless it clearly protected the unborn.  Democratic values?
The Republicans claim to be a party that supports free market solutions and restrained government. Why shouldn't their members be expected to live up to the rhetoric?

The Republicans claim to be a lot of things.  If we made each one of those things a litmus test, we wouldn't have more than thirty members of Congress.

Then its no surprise why the Republicans are on a downward spiral, considering they have certainly not lived up to the conservative values they claim to support. And if they're not a party of small government, then how are they any different from Obama and Democrats?
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« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2009, 01:54:19 AM »

1- that might be the slightest of exaggerations
2- why not extrapolate that for every divergent vote?  he votes for a pro-choice judge or something and he'll have voted for the "holocaust of millions of babies" and so on.  That sort of rhetoric just destroys all meaning to politics until it becomes a rhetorical if not literal circle-jerk.
Politics is a filthy business to begin with, but I don't see a problem with looking at the bigger picture with regard to each individual vote.

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You mean more good than harm for his political career, not for the country. Fortunately the Dems will just have to nominate any black man they could find to easily take back the seat.

"Fortunately"?..... you do realize that "any black man" will vote Pelosi's position 99.9% of the time, right?
Better to have an open enemy than a backstabber.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor."

-- Ronald Reagan

Hollow words coming from big government neocon Ronald Reagan, 100% traitor.
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« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2009, 01:56:50 AM »

1- that might be the slightest of exaggerations
2- why not extrapolate that for every divergent vote?  he votes for a pro-choice judge or something and he'll have voted for the "holocaust of millions of babies" and so on.  That sort of rhetoric just destroys all meaning to politics until it becomes a rhetorical if not literal circle-jerk.
Politics is a filthy business to begin with, but I don't see a problem with looking at the bigger picture with regard to each individual vote.

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You mean more good than harm for his political career, not for the country. Fortunately the Dems will just have to nominate any black man they could find to easily take back the seat.

"Fortunately"?..... you do realize that "any black man" will vote Pelosi's position 99.9% of the time, right?
Better to have an open enemy than a backstabber.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor."

-- Ronald Reagan

Ronald Reagan would probably have been primaried in today's lunatic Republican party.
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« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2009, 02:00:51 AM »

1- that might be the slightest of exaggerations
2- why not extrapolate that for every divergent vote?  he votes for a pro-choice judge or something and he'll have voted for the "holocaust of millions of babies" and so on.  That sort of rhetoric just destroys all meaning to politics until it becomes a rhetorical if not literal circle-jerk.
Politics is a filthy business to begin with, but I don't see a problem with looking at the bigger picture with regard to each individual vote.

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You mean more good than harm for his political career, not for the country. Fortunately the Dems will just have to nominate any black man they could find to easily take back the seat.

"Fortunately"?..... you do realize that "any black man" will vote Pelosi's position 99.9% of the time, right?
Better to have an open enemy than a backstabber.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor."

-- Ronald Reagan

Hollow words coming from big government neocon Ronald Reagan, 100% traitor.

So Ronald Reagan was a RINO?

I knew it!  I knew he was one of us!
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« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2009, 02:05:17 AM »

1- that might be the slightest of exaggerations
2- why not extrapolate that for every divergent vote?  he votes for a pro-choice judge or something and he'll have voted for the "holocaust of millions of babies" and so on.  That sort of rhetoric just destroys all meaning to politics until it becomes a rhetorical if not literal circle-jerk.
Politics is a filthy business to begin with, but I don't see a problem with looking at the bigger picture with regard to each individual vote.

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You mean more good than harm for his political career, not for the country. Fortunately the Dems will just have to nominate any black man they could find to easily take back the seat.

"Fortunately"?..... you do realize that "any black man" will vote Pelosi's position 99.9% of the time, right?
Better to have an open enemy than a backstabber.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor."

-- Ronald Reagan

Ronald Reagan would probably have been primaried in today's lunatic Republican party.

Then the country would have been spared eight-years of record deficits, rapid growth of government, expansion of the war on drugs, needless militarism and sabre-rattling, and all the other nonsense this GOP demigod oversaw.
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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2009, 02:05:41 AM »

1- that might be the slightest of exaggerations
2- why not extrapolate that for every divergent vote?  he votes for a pro-choice judge or something and he'll have voted for the "holocaust of millions of babies" and so on.  That sort of rhetoric just destroys all meaning to politics until it becomes a rhetorical if not literal circle-jerk.
Politics is a filthy business to begin with, but I don't see a problem with looking at the bigger picture with regard to each individual vote.

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You mean more good than harm for his political career, not for the country. Fortunately the Dems will just have to nominate any black man they could find to easily take back the seat.

"Fortunately"?..... you do realize that "any black man" will vote Pelosi's position 99.9% of the time, right?
Better to have an open enemy than a backstabber.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor."

-- Ronald Reagan

Hollow words coming from big government neocon Ronald Reagan, 100% traitor.

So Ronald Reagan was a RINO?

I knew it!  I knew he was one of us!
You self-identify as a RINO?
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« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2009, 02:08:26 AM »

Then its no surprise why the Republicans are on a downward spiral, considering they have certainly not lived up to the conservative values they claim to support. And if they're not a party of small government, then how are they any different from Obama and Democrats?

You might want to consider reading a document called "The Constitution of the United States of America".  In said document you will find, plainly stated, that members of Congress represent apportioned districts, not political parties.



I self-identify as an American and a child of God.  I just happen to also be a member of the Republican Party as that is where my core political values lie.
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« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2009, 02:35:06 AM »


You might want to consider reading a document called "The Constitution of the United States of America".  In said document you will find, plainly stated, that members of Congress represent apportioned districts, not political parties.
Good idea, go ahead and read that. Then maybe you'll realize that what matters is how many people who will do what is right for the country are elected, not how many Republicans you elect without regard to principles.


I self-identify as an American and a child of God.  I just happen to also be a member of the Republican Party as that is where my core political values lie.

You seem to identify as Republican over American since you seem more concerned with getting people calling themselves Republicans elected over actually holding any of them to principles.
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« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2009, 04:12:20 AM »

On the one hand, he voted the right wat on stimulus and cap'n'trade.  Two out of three of the big votes right ain't bad from a deep blue district.  And he only voted for health care after there were already 218 so he'd be sure not to affect the outcome.  Besides, he didn't really care if the bill passed the House because that's how sure he is that it will never pass the Senate.

On the other hand, despite voting for this turkey of a health bill he's still gonna get creamed in a year.  He got one shot and only one shot to be a United States Congressman and he could have cashed that one term into a shot at a Senate seat or a Governorship.  Instead, he begs for mercy and gets none.  I guarantee none of the Democrats now praising him will shed a tear when he loses his seat.  They only like him when they can use him, they're not his friends.  He forgot who his friends were.

At the end of the day, he's a better Congressman than his predecessor was or his successor will be.  But he is not as good a Congressman as he could have been.
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« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2009, 04:16:56 AM »

What if he just voted how he thought was best?
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« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2009, 04:18:05 AM »

What if he just voted how he thought was best?

Are Congressman allowed to do that?
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« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2009, 04:18:50 AM »

What if he just voted how he thought was best?

Are Congressman allowed to do that?

If anyone is, as a certain single-termer, he is.
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« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2009, 05:10:03 AM »

How can you vote for the destruction of something that does not exist?
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« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2009, 08:21:43 AM »


Yes, they likes to purge their best people Wink
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« Reply #45 on: November 08, 2009, 11:00:29 AM »

Cao isn't going to be very popular with his fellow party members, methinks. *understatement*
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« Reply #46 on: November 08, 2009, 11:09:02 AM »

Im fine with moderate and liberal republican but what is the point of being in the GOP when you're gonna vote like 98% of the time with the Dems

Cao voted against the stimulus and cap-n-trade

Any vote with the Dems, even on a minor procedural issue or the naming of a Post Office in Arkansas, is considered voting with them "98%" of the time according to our RINO-hunting friends.
This is not a minor procedural issue. Cao just voted for the destruction of the U.S. healthcare system.

If Cao has Democratic values, why should he remain in the GOP?


Even if he voted with the Republicans 20% of the time, it would be a lot more then the Democrat that district would elect.
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« Reply #47 on: November 08, 2009, 11:09:30 AM »

some people still think coalitions are built by subtraction, it's hilarious.   If Cao-clones occupied all of those Democratic districts, a far-fight agenda would fly through Washington like a laser through melted butter

I should try doing this in one of my labs if I ever have the time, just to see if a laser travels through melted butter quickly.
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« Reply #48 on: November 08, 2009, 11:11:04 AM »

Also: Cao isn't even supposed to be New Orleans' Rep, in that his election was a lucky fluke. Wouldn't you rather a Republican who votes with you "20%" of the time for 2 years, or a Democrat who votes with you 0% of the time, forever.
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« Reply #49 on: November 08, 2009, 11:17:10 AM »

Even if he voted with the Republicans 20% of the time, it would be a lot more then the Democrat that district would elect.
And the things he does vote with the Republicans on will likely be the those that the GOP is wrong on...its time to put principles over party.
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