Eight steps Congress can use to create jobs

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/11/here-are-8-steps-congress-can-take-to-create-more-jobs/

[opebo]

A few of those were good, and a few were right-wing nonsense.

[ag]

I could see the point of No. 3. I'd support No. 5 - but not for the job creation reasons. Those like myself would benefit a lot from No. 6 and No.7 but I am not sure it would be good for the country, and still less sure how much employment that would create, though whatever it would, would go to people I like ) (Yes, opebo, people can look beyond their immediate interest )) ). 4 could be done as a very short-term measure, I don't know, I am afraid of those things, but, perhaps.  I'd be deadly scared of No. 8 and No. 2. I'd need to see evidence on No. 1.

[Sbane]

I could support most of them except for number 1. All that would do is help rich people who invest in wall street.

[k-onmmunist]

A few of those were good, and a few were left right-wing nonsense.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Mostly great ideas, of course. One and Three aren't particularly useful or stimulative of course, but 4-8 are demonstrably effective ideas, and 2 isn't all bad. The problem is gathering political will to do so.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Mostly great ideas, of course. One and Three aren't particularly useful or stimulative of course, but 4-8 are demonstrably effective ideas, and 2 isn't all bad. The problem is gathering political will to do so.

Quote of the week right there.

[Democratic Hawk]

I could support most of them except for number 1. All that would do is help rich people who invest in wall street.

[k-onmmunist]

A few of those were good, and a few were left right-wing nonsense.

Would those be reminiscent of the modern liberal economic policies of the pragmatic center, which give us the Golden Age of Capitalism (1950-1973)?

Golden age my ass.

[Democratic Hawk]

A few of those were good, and a few were left right-wing nonsense.

Would those be reminiscent of the modern liberal economic policies of the pragmatic center, which give us the Golden Age of Capitalism (1950-1973)?

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1 = Epic Fail
2 = Probably not that useful
3 = Yes, would stimulate
4 = Perhaps
5 = Ok
6, 7 = Could help, but more college graduates does not mean more jobs
8 = Might be an ok idea, but it's politically toast

[Beet]

1 = Epic Fail
2 = Probably not that useful
3 = Yes, would stimulate
4 = Perhaps
5 = Ok
6, 7 = Could help, but more college graduates does not mean more jobs
8 = Might be an ok idea, but it's politically toast

Really? I'm not sure it's such a political nonstarter. Yes it'd come under criticism, but there are enough people who have no job, are afraid of losing their jobs that it would have a solid base of immediate support. The key is just to find useful jobs that can be done with a low capital outlay and mostly manpower. With a low cost-to-jobs ratio, it could actually work out politically.

[phk]

   If the Treasury were to fill old bottles with banknotes, bury them at suitable depths in disused coalmines which are then filled up to the surface with town rubbish, and leave it to private enterprise on well-tried principles of laissez-faire to dig the notes up again (the right to do so being obtained, of course, by tendering for leases of the note-bearing territory), there need be no more unemployment and, with the help of the repercussions, the real income of the community, and its capital wealth also, would probably become a good deal greater than it actually is. It would, indeed, be more sensible to build houses and the like; but if there are political and practical difficulties in the way of this, the above would be better than nothing. - John Maynard Keynes

[Democratic Hawk]

A few of those were good, and a few were left right-wing nonsense.

Would those be reminiscent of the modern liberal economic policies of the pragmatic center, which give us the Golden Age of Capitalism (1950-1973)?

Golden age my ass.

When, pray, was the Golden Age of Capitalism, if not, the post-World War II economic expansion?

[k-onmmunist]

A few of those were good, and a few were left right-wing nonsense.

Would those be reminiscent of the modern liberal economic policies of the pragmatic center, which give us the Golden Age of Capitalism (1950-1973)?

Golden age my ass.

When, pray, was the Golden Age of Capitalism, if not, the post-World War II economic expansion?

The 19th century. You know, the time when the US became a rich and successful nation?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

A few of those were good, and a few were left right-wing nonsense.

Would those be reminiscent of the modern liberal economic policies of the pragmatic center, which give us the Golden Age of Capitalism (1950-1973)?

Golden age my ass.

When, pray, was the Golden Age of Capitalism, if not, the post-World War II economic expansion?

The 19th century. You know, the time when the US became a rich and successful nation?

Yea there was also like 5 or 6 Depressions compared to only 2 in the 20th century. You also have to figure the US was transitioning from Agrarian to Industrial. You add agricultrual Depressions in 1837 and 1839.

You had the Depression of 1873 brought on by the actions of one man. It took almost a Decade to recover from that. Then in the mid 1880's another hit and yet another in 1893, and another in 1907.

[phk]

The 19th century was too ing volatile imo. Loaded with panics and bank crises.

[k-onmmunist]

The 19th century was too ing volatile imo. Loaded with panics and bank crises.

Yup. That's a real economy for you.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The 19th century was too ing volatile imo. Loaded with panics and bank crises.

Yup. That's a real economy for you.

And you would prefer that. Such a situation just breeds statism in the masses. While the "Golden Age"  of 1950-1973 actually created the generation of anti-tax middle class suburbia.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/11/here-are-8-steps-congress-can-take-to-create-more-jobs/

Congress and the president can provide a massive stimulus to our economy in only three steps.

1) Abolish all taxes and regulations
2) Shut down all government agencies and departments
3) Resign

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/11/here-are-8-steps-congress-can-take-to-create-more-jobs/

Congress and the president can provide a massive stimulus to our economy in only three steps.

1) Abolish all taxes and regulations
2) Shut down all government agencies and departments
3) Resign

Do you realise such a radically unstable economy would actually breed a greater desire for statism as a reaction?

[Marokai Backbeat]

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/11/here-are-8-steps-congress-can-take-to-create-more-jobs/

Congress and the president can provide a massive stimulus to our economy in only three steps.

1) Abolish all taxes and regulations
2) Shut down all government agencies and departments
3) Resign

Do you realise such a radically unstable economy would actually breed a greater desire for statism as a reaction?

It's important to remember that their goals are not necessarily based on any coherent or working economic theory, but rather their ideological goals purely for the sake of them. They oppose things such as regulation or government interference, not necessarily because of economic reasons, but simply because they don't believe in the government's authority to do so.

It's basically anarcho-capitalism for the sake of anarcho-capitalism.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/11/here-are-8-steps-congress-can-take-to-create-more-jobs/

Congress and the president can provide a massive stimulus to our economy in only three steps.

1) Abolish all taxes and regulations
2) Shut down all government agencies and departments
3) Resign

Do you realise such a radically unstable economy would actually breed a greater desire for statism as a reaction?

Radically unstable? Uh, you do realize that that it is the state that introduces instability into the economy in the first place? Individuals acting rationally within the free market is what produces a sound and stable economy. Ordo ex chao.

[Marokai Backbeat]

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/11/here-are-8-steps-congress-can-take-to-create-more-jobs/

Congress and the president can provide a massive stimulus to our economy in only three steps.

1) Abolish all taxes and regulations
2) Shut down all government agencies and departments
3) Resign

Do you realise such a radically unstable economy would actually breed a greater desire for statism as a reaction?

Radically unstable? Uh, you do realize that that it is the state that introduces instability into the economy in the first place? Individuals acting rationally within the free market is what produces a sound and stable economy. Ordo ex chao.

A "sound and stable economy" has never, never, never existed under such anarchistic policies in the United States.

At least by the commonly accepted definition of 'sound and stable.'

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/11/here-are-8-steps-congress-can-take-to-create-more-jobs/

Congress and the president can provide a massive stimulus to our economy in only three steps.

1) Abolish all taxes and regulations
2) Shut down all government agencies and departments
3) Resign

Do you realise such a radically unstable economy would actually breed a greater desire for statism as a reaction?

Radically unstable? Uh, you do realize that that it is the state that introduces instability into the economy in the first place? Individuals acting rationally within the free market is what produces a sound and stable economy. Ordo ex chao.

A "sound and stable economy" has never, never, never existed under such anarchistic policies in the United States.

At least by the commonly accepted definition of 'sound and stable.'

Hmm, my history books always seem to have omitted any mention of the United States ever adopting "anarchistic policies"...strange...