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Question: Will Kucinich challenge Obama?
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JSojourner
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« on: November 13, 2009, 06:24:49 PM »

Ah, Dennis Kucinich...

The guy I agree with on almost every single issue.  Who I also happen to think it nuttier than a Christmas fruitcake.  What to do, what to do?

Anyway, as to the question...maybe.  But I think it would be more likely that another liberal will step up and challenge the very centrist Obama in the primary.  It will be a token challenge, of course. 

I think it is less likely, but not completely out of the question, that some Democrat with very conservative voting patterns might also challenge Obama.  But that would probably be the same deal -- scarcely a blip on the radar.

As to Obama being the most liberal President since FDR, all I can say is LOL.  Now, I will agree that he certainly campaigned like a liberal.  Especially in the primary.  But he has pretty much governed as a center or center-left Democrat.  Very much like Bill Clinton.  I'm hardly happy about that but when it comes time to pull a lever, if I have to choose between a centrist and a Christo-Fascist (assuming the GOP nominates Palin, Huckabee, Thune or someone of that ilk), I won't have any choice but to vote for Barach a second time.

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JSojourner
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2009, 11:34:48 PM »

Obama is the most liberal president this nation has ever had.  I don't know where you're getting this idea that he has a pragmatic personality.  Nothing in his past or present fosters that notion about him.  He has never once shown any inclination to be a centrist, with the exception of a few times during the presidential campaign.  He even voted against Justice Roberts.  In 10 long months Obama has:

-tried to create an American socialist state, via healthcare
-given terrorists rights, and put them in criminal court
-spent more money than any single president in the history of this nation
-apologized for America in every single country he's visited, most recently declining to say whether he felt that dropping the atomic bomb on Japan was the right decision
-sent the national guard to protect abortion mills after George Tiller the Baby Killer's death, while telling us all not to "jump to conclusions" regarding terrorist Hasan

I don't know where the pragmatism has revealed itself.  He has not sacrificed one single policy position or point. I don't think he even has the ability to be pragmatic.


Obama has done nothing, unfortunately, to move us toward a more Socialist health care system.  He couldn't even deliver a "robust public option".

How is moving people who have not been convicted of a crime into a criminal court, as opposed to a military court, Socialism?

Could you explain what you mean when you say Obama has spent more money in his 10 months as President than any President in U.S. history?  Has he spent more than Roosevelt, per capita?  I realize this is what Glenn Beck says is true...so you definitely have that argument in your arsenal.  But you might want to at least give some sort of mental ascent to the notion that other people, and not just liberals, reckon your definition of "spending" might be a little broad.  And again -- how is it that spending necessarily means Socialism anyway?

Can you cite one example of President Obama apologizing for any American action?  As to the atom bomb, can you name one sitting President in the last 40 years to officially declare the dropping of the a-bomb to have been the right decision?  When did Ronald Reagan travel to Japan and say this?  I remember George H.W. Bush vomiting on the Japanese ambassador, but I don't seem to recall him ever telling the Japanese -- or the press corps following him in Japan -- that we did the right thing in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  (We did, of course.  But that diplomacy thingie yanno...)

Wait.  When did the POTUS call out the national guard to protect women's clinics from violence?  (I am not sure what an "abortion mill" is.  I know of women's clinics and hospitals where abortions are sometimes performed.)  Frankly, if he did call out the Guard for this...it was a good move.  What on earth, however, does this have to do with the shootings at Fort Hood?  Are you suggesting the President call out the National Guard to...erm...uh...well...I mean...that's sorta the whole idea of Fort Hood.  Soldiers and all.  Now, the fact that he told us not to jump to conclusions was probably because he didn't want well-armed patriot militias to get distracted from their true mission -- you know -- the one about refreshing the tree of liberty from time to time.  If they got all hot and bothered forming lynch mobs and going after anyone and everyone in a turban or wearing a veil, they would completely forget about the need to overthrow the New World Order the Democrats and the Illuminati are conspiring to bring out.

But even so, Az...not seeing anything even remotely resembling Socialism here.  Like I say...I wish.


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