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J. J.
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Re: Pat Buchanan to endorse Bush tomorrow
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Reply #50 on:
October 18, 2004, 02:22:30 am »
Quote from: AuH2O on October 18, 2004, 01:55:29 am
Does anyone remember Perot endorsing Bush right before the 2000 election? That had even less impact than Buchanan's will probably.
JJ: Look, I READ "A Republic, not an Empire." It's very historical; someone probably intentionally took him out of context and posted it on the web. For instance, he talks about the US invasion of Canada during the War of 1812. He's not advocating anything, just discussing history.
But it's not my fault if you fall for cheap propaganda. You were still lying about his views.
Oh no I wasn't. The quote is consistent with previous statements that I have read from Buchannan. Now you have the quote, with the statement, "Canada has not been a security concern in this century." That was not the case in the 19th Century, so he
obviously
is
not
speaking about the War of 1812, is he?
I have used the words "annexation" and "protectorate" which he used in his colume. I have
not
used the word "invasion." Perhaps you better reread his book since you did not seem to understand the passage.
It would pretty hard to me to guess that this is in his book, unless I had heard his views on the subject previously. This seems to have been a longstanding belief with him.
You can find some very interesting statements about (or "aboot") Canada from Buchannan by doing a websearch. You might want to try that. I kind of get the fealing that he wouldn't have gotten the satire in the
Southpark
movie.
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Re: Pat Buchanan to endorse Bush tomorrow
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Reply #51 on:
October 18, 2004, 03:07:06 am »
What? Mr. Isolationist endorsing Bush?
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Re: Pat Buchanan to endorse Bush tomorrow
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October 18, 2004, 07:08:08 am »
Well Bush's welcome to 'im!
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phillies
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Re: Pat Buchanan to endorse Bush tomorrow
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October 18, 2004, 07:40:04 am »
Has anyone actually seen this endorsement?
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Re: Pat Buchanan to endorse Bush tomorrow
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October 18, 2004, 08:09:15 am »
Quote from: M on October 17, 2004, 09:35:08 pm
Why would Buchanan endorse Bush? The president believes in a host of things that Pat utterly rejects, like democracy as a universal goal for humankind and an end to racism. Are candidates allowed to reject endorsements?
Ah yes democracy, an instituion t hat gave the world Hitler, Allende in Chile, Chavez in Ven. and almost turned Spain communist in the 30s, not to mention it almost turned Algeria over to Islamic radicals in the eraly 90s.
As I told you many months ago M, democracy does not allways work out, not all societies are equipped to handle democracy.
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DFLofMN
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Re: Pat Buchanan to endorse Bush tomorrow
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October 18, 2004, 10:50:20 am »
Wow, now I guess this seals up the toothless, bow legged slack-jaw vote for Bush. I was getting worried for him with this demographic! There goes Peroutka's last chance to be known as a spolier in '04. Without this endorsement his political career is over!
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dougrhess
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Re: Pat Buchanan to endorse Bush tomorrow
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Reply #56 on:
October 18, 2004, 10:58:37 am »
I wonder if Pat really will do it. He HATES the first Bush; feels they let down the Reagan Revolution.
Here's a good joke: "Why wasn't Pat Buchanan's campaign announcement speech shown with close-captioning on CSpan?" "They didn't have the font with umlauts." ;-)
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Nixon
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Re: Pat Buchanan to endorse Bush tomorrow
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Reply #57 on:
October 18, 2004, 12:00:15 pm »
The article is up, link is on Drudge now. Pat comes home indeed.
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opebo
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Re: Pat Buchanan to endorse Bush tomorrow
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October 18, 2004, 12:44:24 pm »
Quote from: Shira on October 17, 2004, 10:35:23 pm
Quote from: AuH2O on October 17, 2004, 10:03:29 pm
That's a straight-up lie. Buchanan is against imperialism. Hell, he wrote a book titled "A Republic, not an Empire" (very good by the way).
Buchanan is not crazy at all. Usually, people just make things up about him out of thin air, because the truth is that Buchanan is a smart, knowledgeable guy.
But he is full of hatred.
He is isolationist He wants the US out of the world.
The hatred he peddles isn't much different from the hatred Bush peddles. I suppose if you've got a pair of intolerants, the one that's an isolationist is preferable because he only ruins one country.
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Nixon
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Re: Pat Buchanan to endorse Bush tomorrow
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October 18, 2004, 01:15:14 pm »
Buchanan is a good man. He was only 27 when he left the St.Louis Globe newspaper to be Nixons speech writer along with Safire and Price. Buchanan (IIRC) wrote the Des Moines speech Agnew gave in slamming the liberal media, long before the majority of people knew the media was bias.
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acsenray
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Re: Pat Buchanan to endorse Bush tomorrow
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October 18, 2004, 04:36:17 pm »
It's not exactly a ringing endorsement. Basically, Buchanan hates liberals, Democrats, and Kerry so much that he doesn't see any option. Plus, he's afraid that if Kerry's elected then the Republicans will successfully blame the Iraq blunder on the Democrats instead of on the neo-conservatives:
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Iraq is the worst strategic blunder in our lifetime. And for it, George W. Bush, his War Cabinet, and the neoconservatives who plotted and planned this war for a decade bear full responsibility. Should Bush lose on Nov. 2, it will be because he heeded their siren song—that the world was pining for American Empire; that “Big Government Conservatism” is a political philosophy, not an opportunistic sellout of principle; that free-trade globalism is the path to prosperity, not the serial killer of U.S. manufacturing; that amnesty for illegal aliens is compassionate conservatism, not an abdication of constitutional duty.
Mr. Bush was led up the garden path.
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If Kerry wins, leading a party that detests this war, he will be forced to execute an early withdrawal. Should that bring about a debacle, neocons will indict Democrats for losing Iraq. The cakewalk crowd cannot be permitted to get out from under this disaster that easily. They steered Bush into this war and should be made to see it through to the end and to preside over the withdrawal or retreat. Only thus can they be held accountable. Only thus can this neo-Jacobin ideology be discredited in America’s eyes. It is essential for the country and our cause that it be repudiated by the Republican Party formally and finally. The neocons must clean up the mess they have made, themselves, in full public view.
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Re: Pat Buchanan to endorse Bush tomorrow
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October 18, 2004, 07:06:05 pm »
Quote from: phillies on October 18, 2004, 07:40:04 am
Has anyone actually seen this endorsement?
His magazine ran a series of columns, urging votes for Bush, Kerry, Nader, Badnarik, and Peroutka.
The columns were all well-written.
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Re: Pat Buchanan to endorse Bush tomorrow
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October 29, 2004, 02:34:58 pm »
Actually, Pat«s move is strategic and very smart. If Bush wins, Iraq will fall appart under neo-con watch, thus discrediting the movement forever, and allowing true conservatives to take the party away from them. Kudos for Pat.
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Re: Pat Buchanan to endorse Bush tomorrow
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October 30, 2004, 09:08:24 am »
Quote from: Nixon on October 17, 2004, 09:20:06 pm
According to Drudge on his radio show.
Welcome back home, Pat.
The Republican Party is very welcome to him!
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