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« Reply #100 on: November 19, 2009, 06:53:52 PM »
« edited: November 19, 2009, 07:00:21 PM by Senator Tmthforu94 »
I want people here to be able to see, in case they didn't, what will happen if this Act passes. The floodgates will open, and pm's shall be posted often, in attempts to destroy a member's enemies.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=105364.msg2235689#msg2235689

Expect more...
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« Reply #101 on: November 19, 2009, 06:57:37 PM »
^^^^

Perhaps so...but on the other side of the argument you may just have violated the current law yourself as you (re)posted the contents of a private discussion without consent from parties involved Tongue

All that depends on legal interpretation and demonstrates why the current legislation is a problem.
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« Reply #102 on: November 19, 2009, 06:58:32 PM »
Maybe people will be less willing to do stupid things if they know that PMs are not secret.
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« Reply #103 on: November 19, 2009, 06:59:53 PM »
Quote from: afleitch on November 19, 2009, 06:57:37 PM
^^^^

Perhaps so...but on the other side of the argument you may just have violated the current law yourself as you (re)posted the contents of a private discussion without consent from parties involved Tongue

All that depends on legal interpretation and demonstrates why the current legislation is a problem.
It's a quoted message. I didn't make the initial post Wink
Especially since so many people ignore Dave and save their messages, someone could use something from months ago against someone.
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« Reply #104 on: November 19, 2009, 07:03:12 PM »
Quote from: Luóbótè Bèiĕrdé on November 19, 2009, 06:58:32 PM
Maybe people will be less willing to do stupid things if they know that PMs are not secret.

^^^^^^
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« Reply #105 on: November 19, 2009, 07:05:20 PM »
I am changing my vote to NAY.
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« Reply #106 on: November 19, 2009, 07:05:34 PM »
Quote from: SOEA HappyWarrior on November 19, 2009, 05:43:06 PM
Mr. President I really hope you veto this.

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« Reply #107 on: November 19, 2009, 07:07:51 PM »
Quote from: Senator Tmthforu94 on November 19, 2009, 06:59:53 PM
Quote from: afleitch on November 19, 2009, 06:57:37 PM
^^^^

Perhaps so...but on the other side of the argument you may just have violated the current law yourself as you (re)posted the contents of a private discussion without consent from parties involved Tongue

All that depends on legal interpretation and demonstrates why the current legislation is a problem.
It's a quoted message. I didn't make the initial post Wink
Especially since so many people ignore Dave and save their messages, someone could use something from months ago against someone.

True...but as the current law stands;

1. It shall henceforth be a punishable crime in Atlasia to publicly post the contents of private discussions, whether by internet messaging, personal message or other forms of personal communication, without the consent of all parties involved in said correspondence.

It could be interpreted easily to suggest that a post is a still a post even if it's a repost or a quote Tongue Which means you could have violated the post simply be posting a quote. And I said that's whats wrong with the current law.

Quote from: Senator Franzl on November 19, 2009, 07:03:12 PM
Quote from: Luóbótè Bèiĕrdé on November 19, 2009, 06:58:32 PM
Maybe people will be less willing to do stupid things if they know that PMs are not secret.

^^^^^^

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« Reply #108 on: November 19, 2009, 07:17:02 PM »
This bill is no longer passing. The vote resumes as per usual.
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« Reply #109 on: November 20, 2009, 10:04:35 AM »
I will not veto this if it is passed. The original law is a unnecessary infringement on the freedoms of speech and the press.
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« Reply #110 on: November 20, 2009, 03:30:24 PM »
Quote from: Senator Franzl on November 19, 2009, 07:03:12 PM
Quote from: Luóbótè Bèiĕrdé on November 19, 2009, 06:58:32 PM
Maybe people will be less willing to do stupid things if they know that PMs are not secret.

^^^^^^
The Senate could always consider to legalize only the posting of PMs written AFTER the repeal.
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« Reply #111 on: November 20, 2009, 11:26:58 PM »
Strong NAY
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« Reply #112 on: November 21, 2009, 02:02:01 AM »
We're at 5 Ayes and 4 Nays at the moment, gentlemen.

Assuming I can count, that is.
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« Reply #113 on: November 24, 2009, 01:23:00 AM »
Quote from: Sen. Marokai Blue, PPT on November 21, 2009, 02:02:01 AM
We're at 5 Ayes and 4 Nays at the moment, gentlemen.

Assuming I can count, that is.
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« Reply #114 on: November 24, 2009, 01:40:06 AM »
I believe you are actually at 4 ayes and 6 nays. Have been for a while now.
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« Reply #115 on: November 24, 2009, 01:43:25 AM »
Quote from: GM Purple State on November 24, 2009, 01:40:06 AM
I believe you are actually at 4 ayes and 6 nays. Have been for a while now.

Then I guess I can't count. I'll double check.
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« Reply #116 on: November 24, 2009, 01:45:07 AM »
Actually I just re-counted and I was right. We're at 5 Ayes and 4 Nays.
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« Reply #117 on: November 24, 2009, 01:47:22 AM »
Quote from: Sen. Marokai Blue, PPT on November 24, 2009, 01:45:07 AM
Actually I just re-counted and I was right. We're at 5 Ayes and 4 Nays.

I just recounted and it was a tie:

Aye = Marokai, MaxQue, Franzl, Afleitch, Hash
Nay = Rowan, NCY, Hans, Fritz, Tmth
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« Reply #118 on: November 24, 2009, 01:48:33 AM »
Quote from: GM Purple State on November 24, 2009, 01:47:22 AM
Quote from: Sen. Marokai Blue, PPT on November 24, 2009, 01:45:07 AM
Actually I just re-counted and I was right. We're at 5 Ayes and 4 Nays.

I just recounted and it was a tie:

Aye = Marokai, MaxQue, Franzl, Afleitch, Hash
Nay = Rowan, NCY, Hans, Fritz, Tmth

Yes I was just about to post I re-re-counted and it's a tie. Tongue Okay then.

Marokai needs to go back to First Grade. Sorry. Tongue


Tied vote so we need BK to cast the deciding vote.
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« Reply #119 on: November 24, 2009, 11:49:49 AM »
Geez guys, learn to count! Tongue

I suppose I'll vote aye.
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« Reply #120 on: November 24, 2009, 06:37:47 PM »
I now present this to the President for his signature.
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« Reply #121 on: November 26, 2009, 12:41:11 AM »
X Lief

A victory for free speech and a free press. Thank you, Senators.
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