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« on: November 19, 2009, 10:36:58 AM »

Just one is fine.......but it's something that's uniquely her.

I can't think of any......she sounds like a tape recorder of other pols.
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2009, 11:08:29 AM »

Just one is fine.......but it's something that's uniquely her.

I can't think of any......she sounds like a tape recorder of other pols.

Thinking that she is qualified to be (Vice)-President, who else would think THAT?
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2009, 05:03:33 PM »

She has just as many as Obama has. That is, zero.
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2009, 05:39:21 PM »

Ronald Reagan didn't have original ideas.  He had principles.  The ideas flow from there.  Sarah Palin has principles.  Ideas will flow from there as well.  A leader spawns the innovation and helps grow it. 

Of course, in democrats, it is the Gremlins effect.  We warn people not to vote for them (not to feed them after midnight) and then they turn into the ugliest things you have ever seen.  Then they throw an idea into the water and it spawns a whole bunch of other ugly things.

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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2009, 05:41:08 PM »

Just one is fine.......but it's something that's uniquely her.

I can't think of any......she sounds like a tape recorder of other pols.

Can you name an original thought or position that Obama has?
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2009, 06:32:22 PM »

Just one is fine.......but it's something that's uniquely her.

I can't think of any......she sounds like a tape recorder of other pols.

Can you name an original thought or position that Obama has?
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2009, 07:07:36 PM »
« Edited: November 19, 2009, 07:09:24 PM by Grumpy Gramps »

Just one is fine.......but it's something that's uniquely her.

I can't think of any......she sounds like a tape recorder of other pols.

Can you name an original thought or position that Obama has?

Sure......American doesn't need cowboy diplomacy to remain the strongest nation on Earth, and that when we want to talk to those that hate us instead of destroy them on a whim, we don't weaken our position, we strengthen it.  The fact that he's vilified for being an "apologist" means that this is an idea others never thought possible.
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2009, 07:41:16 PM »

It seems like she has no problem making up all kinds of tales, Gramps.  Are you telling me that "Puting rearing his ugly head over Alaska" stuff wasn't original?


http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/11/the-odd-lies-of-sarah-palin-a-roundup.html
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2009, 07:48:26 PM »

It seems like she has no problem making up all kinds of tales, Gramps.  Are you telling me that "Puting rearing his ugly head over Alaska" stuff wasn't original?


http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/11/the-odd-lies-of-sarah-palin-a-roundup.html

Well, true, she does know about foreign affairs since she can see Russia.....I forgot about that....and then she refused government money for the bridge to nowhere....oh and the thought that 1 1/2 years as Governor isn't bailing out.....that's original too.....I guess I'm getting old, my friend.
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2009, 07:49:31 PM »

Even though I am not a Reagan supporter, Palin is too stupid to do become another "Reagan." She's more like a Katherine Harris
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2009, 07:51:56 PM »

I don't know too many people who want to replace the Constitution with the Bible.

Oh, wait, that's Mike Huckabee.

Oh, wait, is there a difference?
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2009, 08:00:09 PM »

I don't know too many people who want to replace the Constitution with the Bible.

Oh, wait, that's Mike Huckabee.

Oh, wait, is there a difference?

Huckabee has a core ideology.  Palin does not.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2009, 09:34:15 PM »

Just one is fine.......but it's something that's uniquely her.

I can't think of any......she sounds like a tape recorder of other pols.

Can you name an original thought or position that Obama has?

Sure......American doesn't need cowboy diplomacy to remain the strongest nation on Earth, and that when we want to talk to those that hate us instead of destroy them on a whim, we don't weaken our position, we strengthen it.  The fact that he's vilified for being an "apologist" means that this is an idea others never thought possible.

You are delusional if you think that that is Obama's position at all, never mind an original position he came up with.
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2009, 06:27:00 AM »

stop OCD'ing  on technicalities and look towards the larger point about Palin's intellectual capabilities
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2009, 08:21:48 AM »

Just one is fine.......but it's something that's uniquely her.

I can't think of any......she sounds like a tape recorder of other pols.

Can you name an original thought or position that Obama has?

Sure......American doesn't need cowboy diplomacy to remain the strongest nation on Earth, and that when we want to talk to those that hate us instead of destroy them on a whim, we don't weaken our position, we strengthen it.  The fact that he's vilified for being an "apologist" means that this is an idea others never thought possible.

Any number of politicians, mostly on the left, have been using that line for years.  This is a nonsense question, since any idea a mainstream politician endorses has most likely been thought up by someone else before.

That being said, the correct answer is:
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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2009, 08:46:41 AM »

The line she had about Alaskans collectively owning the land and resources in Alaska was at least pretty far from her usual spiel.
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2009, 11:21:25 AM »
« Edited: November 20, 2009, 04:55:23 PM by pbrower2a »

Just one is fine.......but it's something that's uniquely her.

I can't think of any......she sounds like a tape recorder of other pols.

Can you name an original thought or position that Obama has?

President Obama doesn't need much originality; he can synthesize ideas effectively and adapt them to different circumstances (namely, the United States in the here-and-now).  He is obviously well-read, so something like Keynesian economics isn't an innovation to him. I can predict that if he ever writes his memoirs he will cite others as precedents for his decisions -- "Lincoln did this", "FDR did this", "Truman did this", "Eisenhower did this", "Kennedy did this", or even "Reagan did this". He has choices that others established as precedent, so he can adapt them at will as he deems appropriate.

Sarah Palin has a BA, but we don't know much about the content. It seems not to be history or philosophy. She could never have made law school.

Because Sarah Palin isn't so well-read she absolutely must innovate intellectually to meet circumstances completely new and unprecedented to her. She does so badly. She comes off as a demagogue who doesn't know what she is talking about.
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2009, 01:48:13 PM »

Just one is fine.......but it's something that's uniquely her.

I can't think of any......she sounds like a tape recorder of other pols.

Thinking that she is qualified to be (Vice)-President, who else would think THAT?

Damn, you beat me to it! :-P
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2009, 01:56:12 PM »

President Obama doesn't need much originality;
Good that you realize Obama is as unoriginal as Palin.

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Bullsh**t. Obama's corporate puppet-masters would have the same agenda regardless of the "here-and-now" circumstances.

But keep up the partisan hackery.
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2009, 02:29:19 PM »

he can synthesize ideas effectively and adapt them to different circumstances (namely, the United States in the here-and-now). 
Bullsh**t. Obama's corporate puppet-masters would have the same agenda regardless of the "here-and-now" circumstances.

But keep up the partisan hackery.

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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2009, 01:38:08 AM »

Ronald Reagan didn't have original ideas.  He had principles.  The ideas flow from there.  Sarah Palin has principles.  Ideas will flow from there as well.  A leader spawns the innovation and helps grow it. 

Of course, in democrats, it is the Gremlins effect.  We warn people not to vote for them (not to feed them after midnight) and then they turn into the ugliest things you have ever seen.  Then they throw an idea into the water and it spawns a whole bunch of other ugly things.



When I think of "original ideas" I think of complex ideas that people actually hold independently that have not simply been fed to them.  Reagan had many.  Palin has none.
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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2009, 03:06:39 AM »

Ronald Reagan didn't have original ideas.  He had principles.  The ideas flow from there.  Sarah Palin has principles.  Ideas will flow from there as well.  A leader spawns the innovation and helps grow it. 

Of course, in democrats, it is the Gremlins effect.  We warn people not to vote for them (not to feed them after midnight) and then they turn into the ugliest things you have ever seen.  Then they throw an idea into the water and it spawns a whole bunch of other ugly things.



When I think of "original ideas" I think of complex ideas that people actually hold independently that have not simply been fed to them.  Reagan had many.  Palin has none.
Conservatism was a renewed philosophy but in a new experimental stage when Reagan was in office.  Reagan had advisors who crafted policies for him, policies based around his principles.  Sarah Palin has those same principles and when she runs she'll have a team putting together ideas as well.  Read her book.  I think you'll find lots of innovative ideas of her own.  The most interesting policy discussions are her talks with family members and how she explains the business world to Bristol.
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2009, 03:08:00 AM »

Ronald Reagan didn't have original ideas.  He had principles.  The ideas flow from there.  Sarah Palin has principles.  Ideas will flow from there as well.  A leader spawns the innovation and helps grow it. 

Of course, in democrats, it is the Gremlins effect.  We warn people not to vote for them (not to feed them after midnight) and then they turn into the ugliest things you have ever seen.  Then they throw an idea into the water and it spawns a whole bunch of other ugly things.



When I think of "original ideas" I think of complex ideas that people actually hold independently that have not simply been fed to them.  Reagan had many.  Palin has none.
Conservatism was a renewed philosophy but in a new experimental stage when Reagan was in office.  Reagan had advisors who crafted policies for him, policies based around his principles.  Sarah Palin has those same principles and when she runs she'll have a team putting together ideas as well.  Read her book.  I think you'll find lots of innovative ideas of her own.  The most interesting policy discussions are her talks with family members and how she explains the business world to Bristol.
Can you cite some specific examples of Palin's original ideas?
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2009, 03:18:53 AM »

Ronald Reagan didn't have original ideas.  He had principles.  The ideas flow from there.  Sarah Palin has principles.  Ideas will flow from there as well.  A leader spawns the innovation and helps grow it. 

Of course, in democrats, it is the Gremlins effect.  We warn people not to vote for them (not to feed them after midnight) and then they turn into the ugliest things you have ever seen.  Then they throw an idea into the water and it spawns a whole bunch of other ugly things.



When I think of "original ideas" I think of complex ideas that people actually hold independently that have not simply been fed to them.  Reagan had many.  Palin has none.
Conservatism was a renewed philosophy but in a new experimental stage when Reagan was in office.  Reagan had advisors who crafted policies for him, policies based around his principles.  Sarah Palin has those same principles and when she runs she'll have a team putting together ideas as well.  Read her book.  I think you'll find lots of innovative ideas of her own.  The most interesting policy discussions are her talks with family members and how she explains the business world to Bristol.
Can you cite some specific examples of Palin's original ideas?
Putting the government jet on EBAY was pretty original, even if it didn't sell.  She rerouted oil revenue to give all Alaskans a tax break.  I don't know anyone else doing that.  Once I finish the book, I will have a more fair and educated report.  The book is wonderful by the way.  I love the vernacular and imagery.  You can realy feel the Alaskan spirit.
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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2009, 03:20:47 AM »

Ronald Reagan didn't have original ideas.  He had principles.  The ideas flow from there.  Sarah Palin has principles.  Ideas will flow from there as well.  A leader spawns the innovation and helps grow it. 

Of course, in democrats, it is the Gremlins effect.  We warn people not to vote for them (not to feed them after midnight) and then they turn into the ugliest things you have ever seen.  Then they throw an idea into the water and it spawns a whole bunch of other ugly things.



When I think of "original ideas" I think of complex ideas that people actually hold independently that have not simply been fed to them.  Reagan had many.  Palin has none.
Conservatism was a renewed philosophy but in a new experimental stage when Reagan was in office.  Reagan had advisors who crafted policies for him, policies based around his principles.  Sarah Palin has those same principles and when she runs she'll have a team putting together ideas as well.  Read her book.  I think you'll find lots of innovative ideas of her own.  The most interesting policy discussions are her talks with family members and how she explains the business world to Bristol.
Can you cite some specific examples of Palin's original ideas?
Putting the government jet on EBAY was pretty original, even if it didn't sell.  She rerouted oil revenue to give all Alaskans a tax break.  I don't know anyone else doing that.  Once I finish the book, I will have a more fair and educated report.  The book is wonderful by the way.  I love the vernacular and imagery.  You can realy feel the Alaskan spirit.
Ah, well, I'll take your word for it.
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