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Hashemite
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #50 on:
November 25, 2009, 07:49:35 am »
Quote from: Sen. Marokai Blue, PPT on November 24, 2009, 06:48:47 pm
Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on November 23, 2009, 07:36:30 pm
This is not Atlasia people, although it's fast becoming one.
I joined because I was genuinely curious about participating. I didn't know a bunch of other Atlasia people would suddenly flock here to line up in the same way.
I would be interested in this thing except that it's obviously becoming Atlasia2 where people can just be zombies again. Great fun.
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20:12 oakvale Taylor Swift's 22 was originally titled 75 in reference to her ex Flanby's proposed tax rate
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20:49 Snowstalker yes, but i'm the kind of fascist who would have backed the allies
20:57 Snowstalker sadly, it's a legitimate ideology tarnished by the incompetent mussolini and the vile hitler
afleitch
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #51 on:
November 25, 2009, 08:52:46 am »
Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on November 25, 2009, 07:49:35 am
I would be interested in this thing except that it's obviously becoming Atlasia2 where people can just be zombies again. Great fun.
I've came back after a few days and it seems like that. I think the number of parties is high; I think there should be a left, centre and a right party and leave it like that. I'd also be keen on 'de-Americanising' this thing. I mean 'Constitution Party?' What constitution? What if ours is very liberal
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Senator Barnes
Roy Barnes 2010
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #52 on:
November 25, 2009, 12:08:28 pm »
Quote from: afleitch on November 25, 2009, 08:52:46 am
Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on November 25, 2009, 07:49:35 am
I would be interested in this thing except that it's obviously becoming Atlasia2 where people can just be zombies again. Great fun.
I've came back after a few days and it seems like that. I think the number of parties is high; I think there should be a left, centre and a right party and leave it like that. I'd also be keen on 'de-Americanising' this thing. I mean 'Constitution Party?' What constitution? What if ours is very liberal
I agree with afleitch. A British or French style government would be nice.
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-Atlasia and all that jazz-
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Mint
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #53 on:
November 25, 2009, 03:09:22 pm »
Quote from: afleitch on November 25, 2009, 08:52:46 am
I mean 'Constitution Party?' What constitution? What if ours is very liberal
There are some that advocate for a bill of rights in your country.
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dialectical fetishist
Winston Disraeli
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #54 on:
November 25, 2009, 04:00:35 pm »
I want an Israeli style system
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Χahar
Xahar
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #55 on:
November 25, 2009, 04:11:06 pm »
'Twill be loosely based on the French Third Republic.
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Quote from: Sibboleth on February 28, 2009, 04:08:37 pm
I'm not sure if this new tendency to appeal to the apparent inherent evil of Xahar in all things even remotely related to forum policing or this damn game is especially helpful.
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Winston Disraeli
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #56 on:
November 25, 2009, 04:19:14 pm »
Quote from: Хahar on November 25, 2009, 04:11:06 pm
'Twill be loosely based on the French Third Republic.
Fair enough.
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Hashemite
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November 25, 2009, 04:23:14 pm »
Quote from: Хahar on November 25, 2009, 04:11:06 pm
'Twill be loosely based on the French Third Republic.
Better.
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20:12 oakvale Taylor Swift's 22 was originally titled 75 in reference to her ex Flanby's proposed tax rate
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20:49 Snowstalker yes, but i'm the kind of fascist who would have backed the allies
20:57 Snowstalker sadly, it's a legitimate ideology tarnished by the incompetent mussolini and the vile hitler
Senator Barnes
Roy Barnes 2010
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #58 on:
November 25, 2009, 05:23:24 pm »
Quote from: Хahar on November 25, 2009, 04:11:06 pm
'Twill be loosely based on the French Third Republic.
Could you lay out the structure, then?
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Χahar
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #59 on:
November 25, 2009, 05:50:06 pm »
It will be a unitary state. The President will be elected in even-numbered months; he will have the authority to appoint and dismiss Prime Ministers, and also to dissolve the National Assembly. Any one National Assembly can sit for 45 days before being automatically dissolved. The Prime Minister shall appoint the government, which shall be responsible to the National Assembly. If we should choose at some point to create an upper house, the government would also be responsible to that house.
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Quote from: Sibboleth on February 28, 2009, 04:08:37 pm
I'm not sure if this new tendency to appeal to the apparent inherent evil of Xahar in all things even remotely related to forum policing or this damn game is especially helpful.
Sibboleth
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #60 on:
November 25, 2009, 05:53:23 pm »
How do you intend elections to be run?
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'Gentlemen, a desert. A place of savage reference for the good people of Ohio. A place to fear and love. A blasted region. Something to remind us what we hewed out of. A place without malls. An Other for Ohio's Self. Cacti and scorpions and the sun bearing down. Desolation. A place for people to wander alone. To reflect. Away from everything. Gentlemen, a desert.'
Χahar
Xahar
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Reply #61 on:
November 25, 2009, 06:47:02 pm »
That is to be determined. Simulated elections, though they certainly have their merits, may not be feasible.
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Quote from: Sibboleth on February 28, 2009, 04:08:37 pm
I'm not sure if this new tendency to appeal to the apparent inherent evil of Xahar in all things even remotely related to forum policing or this damn game is especially helpful.
Senator Barnes
Roy Barnes 2010
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #62 on:
November 25, 2009, 06:52:16 pm »
The Government sounds cool to me. I really want to get started soon.
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Hashemite
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #63 on:
November 25, 2009, 09:43:12 pm »
I oppose running elections like in Atlasia, since that encourages stupid players, zombies and sh**t in general.
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20:49 Snowstalker yes, but i'm the kind of fascist who would have backed the allies
20:57 Snowstalker sadly, it's a legitimate ideology tarnished by the incompetent mussolini and the vile hitler
Χahar
Xahar
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #64 on:
November 25, 2009, 09:55:44 pm »
Recall that voting would be by list at any rate. This would decrease zombie effects.
It might be interesting to have a Senate based on the Northern Irish model.
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Quote from: Sibboleth on February 28, 2009, 04:08:37 pm
I'm not sure if this new tendency to appeal to the apparent inherent evil of Xahar in all things even remotely related to forum policing or this damn game is especially helpful.
Smid
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #65 on:
November 26, 2009, 06:35:38 am »
Quote from: Хahar on November 25, 2009, 09:55:44 pm
Recall that voting would be by list at any rate. This would decrease zombie effects.
It might be interesting to have a Senate based on the Northern Irish model.
What's the Northern Irish model? I was thinking like the Victorian (Australian) model would be a possible way of ensuring minority representation through PR, but not letting the numbers drop to insignificant 4% levels (50 Senators all off the one ballot).
Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on November 25, 2009, 09:43:12 pm
I oppose running elections like in Atlasia, since that encourages stupid players, zombies and sh**t in general.
I wholeheartedly endorse this opinion.
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Χahar
Xahar
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #66 on:
November 26, 2009, 11:10:18 am »
Quote from: Smid on November 26, 2009, 06:35:38 am
Quote from: Хahar on November 25, 2009, 09:55:44 pm
Recall that voting would be by list at any rate. This would decrease zombie effects.
It might be interesting to have a Senate based on the Northern Irish model.
What's the Northern Irish model? I was thinking like the Victorian (Australian) model would be a possible way of ensuring minority representation through PR, but not letting the numbers drop to insignificant 4% levels (50 Senators all off the one ballot).
Each lower house elects a certain number of Senators through STV, and the Senators' terms last a fixed number of Parliaments.
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Quote from: Sibboleth on February 28, 2009, 04:08:37 pm
I'm not sure if this new tendency to appeal to the apparent inherent evil of Xahar in all things even remotely related to forum policing or this damn game is especially helpful.
Senator Barnes
Roy Barnes 2010
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #67 on:
November 26, 2009, 11:14:54 am »
Do we have any ideas on how the Court System will work? If we're going to have one, that is.
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Sibboleth
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #68 on:
November 26, 2009, 11:38:56 am »
Quote from: Хahar on November 25, 2009, 06:47:02 pm
That is to be determined. Simulated elections, though they certainly have their merits, may not be feasible.
I don't see why not, especially as it would be easy to incorporate party membership stuff into how election results are calculated.
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'Gentlemen, a desert. A place of savage reference for the good people of Ohio. A place to fear and love. A blasted region. Something to remind us what we hewed out of. A place without malls. An Other for Ohio's Self. Cacti and scorpions and the sun bearing down. Desolation. A place for people to wander alone. To reflect. Away from everything. Gentlemen, a desert.'
Smid
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #69 on:
November 26, 2009, 04:58:23 pm »
Quote from: Хahar on November 26, 2009, 11:10:18 am
Quote from: Smid on November 26, 2009, 06:35:38 am
Quote from: Хahar on November 25, 2009, 09:55:44 pm
Recall that voting would be by list at any rate. This would decrease zombie effects.
It might be interesting to have a Senate based on the Northern Irish model.
What's the Northern Irish model? I was thinking like the Victorian (Australian) model would be a possible way of ensuring minority representation through PR, but not letting the numbers drop to insignificant 4% levels (50 Senators all off the one ballot).
Each lower house elects a certain number of Senators through STV, and the Senators' terms last a fixed number of Parliaments.
Virtually the same thing, then. The Victorian model, instead of a certain number of Senators per seat fixes eleven seats to one Region, and then elects five Upper House MLCs (Senators by another name still smell as, well, of talcum powder...) by STV.
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #70 on:
November 26, 2009, 10:49:00 pm »
Quote from: Northeast Lt. Governor Barnes on November 26, 2009, 11:14:54 am
Do we have any ideas on how the Court System will work? If we're going to have one, that is.
I hope we dont'.
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Winston Disraeli
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Reply #71 on:
November 27, 2009, 04:44:20 am »
I hope we do.
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Senator Barnes
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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November 27, 2009, 11:15:51 pm »
Bump.
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Smid
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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Reply #73 on:
November 27, 2009, 11:41:22 pm »
Let the GM determine how the Court finds in any legal challenge.
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Sibboleth
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Re: NEW: New Register Thread and Other Things
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November 28, 2009, 12:54:43 pm »
If we have a powerful and active constitutional court in this, then it might as well be Atlasia - and there would be no point to that. I can accept that elements of Atlasia might be needed to make something on this sort of scale work here, but there are limits.
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'Gentlemen, a desert. A place of savage reference for the good people of Ohio. A place to fear and love. A blasted region. Something to remind us what we hewed out of. A place without malls. An Other for Ohio's Self. Cacti and scorpions and the sun bearing down. Desolation. A place for people to wander alone. To reflect. Away from everything. Gentlemen, a desert.'
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