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« on: November 24, 2009, 06:37:15 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2009, 06:38:37 PM »
Regional Redistricting. Opposed.
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2009, 06:39:42 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2009, 06:41:19 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2009, 11:01:40 PM »

Well, No. The way I read it, it just give the Senate power to change the regions once a year if they wanted, but of course the region has to agree to it by a 50%+1 vote.
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2009, 11:09:47 PM »
I think some explanation of the intent here is in order.
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2009, 12:48:55 AM »
Assign to a district?

Outdated proposal.
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2009, 02:08:14 AM »
I oppose this.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2009, 07:48:14 AM »
No.

The only part which I don't entirely disagree with is section 4 of this thingee
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2009, 08:45:52 AM »
I would invite the constituent to comment on this further Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2009, 12:01:25 PM »
I had a comment ready here, but then I noticed I'd misread something. Nvm.

The 50%+1 rule is, er, interesting... pass a proposal by which the Midwest gets New Mexico and Arkansas with the consent of the Midwest and the Southeast against the Pacific? Who is the constituent in question?
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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2009, 01:13:20 PM »
I support it.

Point 3 must be better defined. Is it around the affected regions (For example: in the case New Mexico, Midwest and Pacific), or to all regions Atlasias?
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« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2009, 01:20:45 PM »
Quote from: Senator Hans-im-Glück on November 25, 2009, 01:13:20 PM
I support it.

Point 3 must be better defined. Is it around the affected regions (For example: in the case New Mexico, Midwest and Pacific), or to all regions Atlasias?

Well, it says "The consent of 50% +1 of Regions being changed is required", so it would be the regions being affected. So lets say if the Mideast wanted North Carolina in their region. The Mideast and the Southeast both will hold a vote and if it passes in both then North Carolina will be in the Mideast. Of course, the people in North Carolina can veto it.

Also, all this does is give the Senate the power to try to alter the regions, but I believe I need to change it just a bit.
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2009, 01:22:51 PM »
Could you please explain to the Senate why this is necessary?
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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2009, 01:28:15 PM »
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Afleitch can you accept this as friendly.
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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2009, 01:31:16 PM »
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Afleitch can you accept this as friendly.

A non-senator cannot offer amendments, but I'll be glad to offer it for you Smiley

(still waiting for an answer to my question, however!)
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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2009, 01:34:45 PM »
Quote from: Senator Franzl on November 25, 2009, 01:22:51 PM
Could you please explain to the Senate why this is necessary?

Well, the way it is now, only the Regions are the only ones that can start the process of trying to change the regions lines, but if this passes the Senate will also be given the power to start the process of trying to change the regions lines.

*Note* the Senate can try as many times as they want, but if the Senate plan passes, they can't pass another plan for another year. But the Regions will be able to as many times as they want.
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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2009, 01:35:58 PM »
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Afleitch can you accept this as friendly.

A non-senator cannot offer amendments, but I'll be glad to offer it for you Smiley

(still waiting for an answer to my question, however!)

I should have said can you change it to this. Smiley Anyways, your answer is in the above post.
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2009, 04:04:25 PM »
Totally unnecessary.
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« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2009, 04:15:13 PM »
Accepted as friendly...if Franzl has offered it up as an amendment!
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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2009, 04:17:47 PM »
Quote from: afleitch on November 25, 2009, 04:15:13 PM
Accepted as friendly...if Franzl has offered it up as an amendment!

Yes.
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« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2009, 05:20:52 PM »
Quote from: Devilman88 on November 25, 2009, 01:20:45 PM
Quote from: Senator Hans-im-Glück on November 25, 2009, 01:13:20 PM
I support it.

Point 3 must be better defined. Is it around the affected regions (For example: in the case New Mexico, Midwest and Pacific), or to all regions Atlasias?

Well, it says "The consent of 50% +1 of Regions being changed is required", so it would be the regions being affected. So lets say if the Mideast wanted North Carolina in their region. The Mideast and the Southeast both will hold a vote and if it passes in both then North Carolina will be in the Mideast. Of course, the people in North Carolina can veto it.
Also, all this does is give the Senate the power to try to alter the regions, but I believe I need to change it just a bit.

So thats what you want. Only over my dead body will North Carolina leave the Dirty South. Tongue
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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2009, 10:22:53 PM »
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Quote from: Senator Hans-im-Glück on November 25, 2009, 01:13:20 PM
I support it.

Point 3 must be better defined. Is it around the affected regions (For example: in the case New Mexico, Midwest and Pacific), or to all regions Atlasias?

Well, it says "The consent of 50% +1 of Regions being changed is required", so it would be the regions being affected. So lets say if the Mideast wanted North Carolina in their region. The Mideast and the Southeast both will hold a vote and if it passes in both then North Carolina will be in the Mideast. Of course, the people in North Carolina can veto it.
Also, all this does is give the Senate the power to try to alter the regions, but I believe I need to change it just a bit.

So thats what you want. Only over my dead body will North Carolina leave the Dirty South. Tongue

No, I was just using that as an example. Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2009, 04:41:32 AM »
Technical issues certainly slowed the Senate down. Tongue Let's get back on track now:

I now open up the following Amendment for a final vote. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain. 7 votes are required for passage.

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Nay, this is wholly unnecessary.
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« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2009, 07:56:42 AM »
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