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« on: November 30, 2009, 01:52:22 pm »
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[This Survivor is about Nobel Peace Prize Winners (NPPW).

It will include
97 NPPW in 3 groups (phase 1), i.e. 32 NPPW in each group (33 in group A), with 22 to eliminate (23 in group A),
then 30 in 1 group (phase 2), i.e. 30 NPPW in the final group, with 29 to eliminate,
 
The usual rule is to vote for the leader you want to eliminate in each group.
Each round will be open for at least 24 hours, sometimes a bit more, depending on my agenda.
First round will last a bit longer, since I want everyone to have time to read the lists.

There will be some special rules in almost every 3 rounds: immunity, split votes, double votes, etc. It gives no bring back round Wink

I'll warn you about that in this thread and in each specific thread.

I'll vote like anybody, but I won't be authorized to give immunities when they are decided by the first voter.

In case of a tie, the first criteria will be the total of votes received in previous rounds; if there's still a tie, this NPPW is out, who is closer to the present (for example: when the winner of 2005 and 1925 have the same vote and also the same votes in previous rounds, the winner of 2005 is out). It's then still a tie, I decide.

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So we have this 97 NPPW:

1901  - Frédéric Passy – France
1901 - Jean Henry Dunant - Switzerland
1902 - Élie Ducommun - Switzerland

1902 - Charles Albert Gobat - Switzerland
1903 - William Randal Cremer - United Kingdom
1905 - Bertha von Suttner - Austria-Hungary

1906 - Theodore Roosevelt - United States
1907 - Ernesto Teodoro Moneta - Italy
1907 - Louis Renault - France

1908 - Klas Pontus Arnoldson - Sweden
1908 - Fredrik Bajer - Denmark
1909 - Auguste Marie François Beernaert - Belgium

1909 - Paul-Henri-Benjamin d'Estournelles de Constant - France
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser - The Netherlands
1911 - Alfred Hermann Fried - Austria

1912 - Elihu Root - United States
1913 - Henri La Fontaine - Belgium
1919 - Woodrow Wilson - United States

1920 - Léon Victor Auguste Bourgeois - France
1921 - Hjalmar Branting - Sweden
1921 - Christian Lous Lange - Norway

1922 - Fridtjof Nansen - Norway
1925 - Austen Chamberlain - United Kingdom
1925 - Charles Gates Dawes - United States

1926 - Aristide Briand - France
1926 - Gustav Stresemann - Germany
1927 - Ferdinand Buisson - France

1927 - Ludwig Quidde - Germany
1929 - Frank B. Kellogg - United States
1930 - Lars Olof Jonathan (Nathan) Söderblom - Sweden

1931 - Jane Addams - United States
1931 - Nicholas Murray Butler - United States
1933 - Sir Norman Angell (Ralph Lane) - United Kingdom

1934 - Arthur Henderson - United Kingdom
1935 - Carl von Ossietzky - Germany
1936 - Carlos Saavedra Lamas - Argentina

1937 - The Viscount Cecil of Chelwood - United Kingdom
1945 - Cordell Hull - United States
1946 - Emily Greene Balch - United States

1946 - John Raleigh Mott - United States
1949 - The Lord Boyd-Orr - United Kingdom
1950 - Ralph Bunche - United States

1951 - Léon Jouhaux - France
1952 - Albert Schweitzer - France
1953 - George Catlett Marshall – United States

1957 - Lester Bowles Pearson - Canada
1958 - Georges Pire - Belgium
1959 - Philip J. Noel-Baker - United Kingdom

1960 - Albert Lutuli - South Africa
1961 - Dag Hjalmar Agne Carl Hammarskjöld - Sweden
1962 - Linus Carl Pauling - United States

1964 - Martin Luther King, Jr. - United States
1968 - René Cassin - France
1970 - Norman E. Borlaug - United States

1971 - Willy Brandt - Federal Republic of Germany
1973 - Henry A. Kissinger - United States
1973 - Lê Ðức Thọ (refused) - Democratic Republic of Vietnam

1974 - Seán MacBride - Ireland
1974 - Eisaku Sato - Japan
1975 - Andrei Dmitrievich Sakharov - Soviet Union

1976 - Betty Williams - United Kingdom
1976 - Mairead Corrigan - United Kingdom
1978 - Mohamed Anwar Al-Sadat - Egypt

1978 - Menachem Begin – Israel
1979 - Mother Teresa - India
1980 - Adolfo Pérez Esquivel - Argentina

1982 - Alva Myrdal - Sweden
1982 - Alfonso García Robles – Mexico
1983 - Lech Wałęsa - Poland

1984 - Desmond Mpilo Tutu - South Africa
1986 - Elie Wiesel - United States
1987 - Óscar Arias Sánchez - Costa Rica

1989 - 14th Dalai Lama - Tibet
1990 - Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev - Soviet Union
1991 - Aung San Suu Kyi - Burma

1992 - Rigoberta Menchú Tum - Guatemala
1993 - Nelson Mandela - South Africa
1993 - Frederik Willem de Klerk - South Africa

1994 - Yasser Arafat - Palestine
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin – Israel
1994 - Shimon Peres – Israel

1995 - Joseph Rotblat - United Kingdom
1996 - Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo - East Timor
1996 - José Ramos-Horta - East Timor

1997 - Jody Williams - United States
1998 - John Hume - United Kingdom
1998 - David Trimble - United Kingdom

2000 - Kim Dae Jung - South Korea
2001 - Kofi Annan - Ghana
2002 - Jimmy Carter - United States

2003 - Shirin Ebadi - Iran
2004 - Wangari Muta Maathai - Kenya
2005 - Mohamed ElBaradei - Egypt

2006 - Muhammad Yunus - Bangladesh  
2007 - Al Gore - United States
2008 - Martti Ahtisaari - Finland

2009 - Barack Obama - United States
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2009, 01:56:55 pm »
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Ah, excellent idea.

I know who would elinate among first and I'll be voting against this guy!
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2009, 01:58:38 pm »
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Split into three groups for every third year or at least every third candidate on the list - For 1901, where there are two candidates, they should be split into different groups. So Group A would be: Passy. Gobat, Roosevelt, Arnoldson. Group B: Dunant, Cremer, Moneta, Bajer. Group C: Well, I think you get the idea.

Good idea btw. First up: Eliminate Kissinger.
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2009, 02:02:12 pm »
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Kick out Obama first.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2009, 02:15:03 pm »
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     Good idea. I want to see Begin & Arafat get early baths.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2009, 02:21:16 pm »
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Interesting idea, this sounds pretty good Smiley

And yeah, Kissinger will be my first target Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2009, 03:34:32 pm »
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Split into three groups for every third year or at least every third candidate on the list - For 1901, where there are two candidates, they should be split into different groups. So Group A would be: Passy. Gobat, Roosevelt, Arnoldson. Group B: Dunant, Cremer, Moneta, Bajer. Group C: Well, I think you get the idea.


I think you're right. It's the best to split the winners from the same year and mixed all others. Tomorrow or the day after tomorrow I will be ready. I will post the rules for this survivor and then the 3 groups. Then we can start it. Wink

I'm curious who the first 3 will be eliminated. Kissinger, Obama and Arafat? Maybe I put them in one group Grin
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I think you'll find that "Grameen Bank" is not a person.
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2009, 03:55:20 pm »
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I think you'll find that "Grameen Bank" is not a person.

That's right Cheesy I changed it.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2009, 04:58:49 pm »
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Kick out Obama first.

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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2009, 06:26:41 pm »

Gully is right.
But with 97 names, you've got one "extra": why not excluding the last one ? That would be less controversial...
And, even if it will be useless after 3 rounds, maybe you should call everyone to judge the Nobel prizes, not the politicians behind.
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2009, 10:16:37 pm »
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Eliminate Kissinger.
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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2009, 01:15:47 am »
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Don't kick out Grameen Bank!
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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2009, 10:05:35 am »
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Don't kick out Grameen Bank!

This is no person. If I do not stroke the Grameen Bank, then I must also let the Red Cross, Amnesty International etc., on the list.

Gully is right.
But with 97 names, you've got one "extra": why not excluding the last one ? That would be less controversial...
And, even if it will be useless after 3 rounds, maybe you should call everyone to judge the Nobel prizes, not the politicians behind.


I don't think thats a big problem. We can eliminate in one round 2 in a group. I think Obama must stay. I like him (as President, not as Nobel Prize Winner), but he will be out very early. Wink
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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2009, 12:09:15 pm »

And why not a small survivor, simultaneously (because the big one would guarantee at least more than 3 votes !) or after, only on organizations ?

Sorry to give you more work !
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And why not a small survivor, simultaneously (because the big one would guarantee at least more than 3 votes !) or after, only on organizations ?

Sorry to give you more work !

It's easy to give the others more work Cheesy

I'm not against it. Since the two survivor does not cooperate I would not like that we get confused. I see problems when we have special rules in the big Survivor and not in the small Survivor. If I counted correctly there are 21 organizations who win the Peace Nobel Prize. Perhaps we make it after the big Survivor, or parallel to the final, when we have only one group.
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Assuming voting is underway, and with so many tempting targets, I vote to get rid of Barack Obama first. Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2009, 02:41:48 pm »
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This Survivor is about Nobel Peace Prize Winners (NPPW).

It will include
97 NPPW in 3 groups (phase 1), i.e. 32 NPPW in each group (33 in group A), with 22 to eliminate (23 in group A),
then 30 in 1 group (phase 2), i.e. 30 NPPW in the final group, with 29 to eliminate,
 
The usual rule is to vote for the leader you want to eliminate in each group.
Each round will be open for at least 24 hours, sometimes a bit more, depending on my agenda.
First round will last a bit longer, since I want everyone to have time to read the lists.

There will be some special rules in almost every 3 rounds: immunity, split votes, double votes, etc. It gives no bring back round Wink

I'll warn you about that in this thread and in each specific thread.

I'll vote like anybody, but I won't be authorized to give immunities when they are decided by the first voter.

In case of a tie, the first criteria will be the total of votes received in previous rounds; if there's still a tie, this NPPW is out, who is closer to the present (for example: when the winner of 2005 and 1925 have the same vote and also the same votes in previous rounds, the winner of 2005 is out). It's then still a tie, I decide.

You can EDIT your vote but only for 10 minutes.
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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2009, 04:18:23 pm »
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The English term is Nobel Peace Prize, actually. Smiley
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The English term is Nobel Peace Prize, actually. Smiley

Everyone know what I mean, but I will change it Wink
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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2009, 04:26:57 am »

I agree on your first tie-breaking rule (of course Wink), but also on your second one: we are more "moderate" on the old ones, so that's better to keep them.
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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2009, 12:47:18 pm »
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Wow It was a very high turnout Smiley Group A ans B where easy wins. In Group C we had a tie and Trimble was out because he is the newer Nobel Prize Winner.


Result Group A: Obama 13; Teddy Roosevelt 3; Dalai Lama 1; Le Duc Tho 1; Menchu 1





Result Group B: Kissinger 9, Arafat 5, Begin 3, Marshall 1





Result Group C: Trimble 6, Wilson 6, Gore 3, Chamberlain 3 (Trimble wins 1998, Wilson 1919; Trimble is out, because he is the newer winner)

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« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2009, 03:56:27 pm »

Very fine turnout indeed.
It will probably fall a bit (when we'll be in the 1900s-1910s series of dull ones... :-/), but, still, that's a very good basis to start from.

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The Result of Round 2

In each group, it was a narrow victory. The elimination of Jodi Williams was a little surprise, but I know it before that she doesn't have a change to come into the final. The turnout is good, but only the normal Survivor maniacs Wink Maybe in the first Round were many Obama haters Grin



Result of Group A:
Jody Williams 4, Teddy Roosevelt 3.5, Lê Ðức Thọ 3, Menchu 0.5




Result of Group B:
Arafat 4.5 (5 in previous Rounds), Begin 4.5 (3 in previous Rounds), Borlaug 0.5, Kellog 0.5, Dawes 0.5   





Result of Group C:
Chamberlain 4, Wilson 3.5, Sadat 2.5, Gore 0.5, Sato 0.5

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« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2009, 02:48:39 pm »
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The Result of Round 3

Not a good roud for American Presidents. TR and Wilso are out. In Group B it was a easy win for Begin.



Result of Group A:
Teddy Roosevelt 5, Lê Ðức Thọ 4, Menchu 1




Result of Group B:
Begin 8, de Klerk 1, 1 invalid vote for Sadat   





Result of Group C:
Wilson 5, Sadat 4, Gore 1


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