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« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2009, 02:23:40 pm »
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I hope so, but he's done and said worse things imo.
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« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2009, 02:26:24 pm »
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The GOP has few ways to win and many to lose in 2012.  One of those ways - Huckabee - has disappeared today with the emergence of this story.  Huckabee may well have been finished even earlier.  The corporate tycoons and the robber barons who control the inner workings of the GOP would have seen to it that a populist candidate never became the nominee, no matter how sympathetic he may have been to their Christofascist policies.  This means that the Clinton-but-not Obama states are in danger of falling to the Democrats.  These states are culturally different.  Time will tell if they will vote for a candidate who has improved their economic situation rather than one who shares their regressive values.

It is worth nothing that Huckabee is more popular among the 18-25 demographic than any other Republican candidate.  As young people become increasingly liberal, they need someone who can reach out to them.  So far, the GOP has churned out Sarah Palin - a mediocrity who has not proved herself intelligent enough to win an election, much less serve as President.  

Knock it off you robotic clown. Every conversation is not about the 2012 electoral map.
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« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2009, 02:32:27 pm »
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If Huckabee wins the nomination he will lose because he is a Christian and i don't like Christians and he will do badly among a certain group and lose Oklahoma but he will win because he is a Christian and he loves America but Obama will win because he will do well in certain states because of this, that and the other, but he could lose Utah and Wyoming but he will do well among middle aged voters which means Huckabee has a chance of winning California because he is not an Athiest and i think Obama will win Ohio because Huckabee is a great man and will win Ohio. Also, polls say that Huckabee will win but that can't be right because the polling organization is wrong and Huckabee will win Washington DC because he will win Utah and that will give Obama the Presidency.
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« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2009, 02:34:43 pm »
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http://ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/12/hucks_defense.php

video of him on the O'Reilly factor defending himself
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« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2009, 02:36:30 pm »
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I wonder if 'the factor' is still the most watched cable news show, now with Glenn Beck on FOX. I'm not sure O Reilly's ego could take that.
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« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2009, 02:51:00 pm »
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If Huckabee wins the nomination he will lose because he is a Christian and i don't like Christians and he will do badly among a certain group and lose Oklahoma but he will win because he is a Christian and he loves America but Obama will win because he will do well in certain states because of this, that and the other, but he could lose Utah and Wyoming but he will do well among middle aged voters which means Huckabee has a chance of winning California because he is not an Athiest and i think Obama will win Ohio because Huckabee is a great man and will win Ohio. Also, polls say that Huckabee will win but that can't be right because the polling organization is wrong and Huckabee will win Washington DC because he will win Utah and that will give Obama the Presidency.

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« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2009, 02:53:50 pm »
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Like he ever had a chance anyway.
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« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2009, 03:33:53 pm »
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Huckabee's not finished as a political force.  I think he will still have a following.

As a Presidential candidate, he is absolutely finished.  As morbid as it sounds, I think the high body count makes the situation look worse politically, as does the fact this is not the first time he has gotten in trouble over law & order issues.  If this was the first case of this and there had only been one victim, he might have been able to weather it.  But a quadruple cop-killer who had previously assaulted an officer and was accused of child molestation?  And after Huckabee's previous controversy with Wayne DuMond?  The optics of it are devastating.
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« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2009, 03:45:32 pm »
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The GOP has few ways to win and many to lose in 2012.  One of those ways - Huckabee - has disappeared today with the emergence of this story.  Huckabee may well have been finished even earlier.  The corporate tycoons and the robber barons who control the inner workings of the GOP would have seen to it that a populist candidate never became the nominee, no matter how sympathetic he may have been to their Christofascist policies.  This means that the Clinton-but-not Obama states are in danger of falling to the Democrats.  These states are culturally different.  Time will tell if they will vote for a candidate who has improved their economic situation rather than one who shares their regressive values.

It is worth nothing that Huckabee is more popular among the 18-25 demographic than any other Republican candidate.  As young people become increasingly liberal, they need someone who can reach out to them.  So far, the GOP has churned out Sarah Palin - a mediocrity who has not proved herself intelligent enough to win an election, much less serve as President. 

Knock it off you robotic clown. Every conversation is not about the 2012 electoral map.

Oops, you're going to feel silly in a little while...
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« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2009, 04:17:41 pm »
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« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2009, 04:53:43 pm »
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The GOP has few ways to win and many to lose in 2012.  One of those ways - Huckabee - has disappeared today with the emergence of this story.  Huckabee may well have been finished even earlier.  The corporate tycoons and the robber barons who control the inner workings of the GOP would have seen to it that a populist candidate never became the nominee, no matter how sympathetic he may have been to their Christofascist policies.  This means that the Clinton-but-not Obama states are in danger of falling to the Democrats.  These states are culturally different.  Time will tell if they will vote for a candidate who has improved their economic situation rather than one who shares their regressive values.

It is worth nothing that Huckabee is more popular among the 18-25 demographic than any other Republican candidate.  As young people become increasingly liberal, they need someone who can reach out to them.  So far, the GOP has churned out Sarah Palin - a mediocrity who has not proved herself intelligent enough to win an election, much less serve as President.  

In case anyone wonders what happened to the real pbrower2a, then I am he; imitation is flattery, but when it is that blatant it is plagiarism.  

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The GOP has few ways to win and many to lose in 2012.  One of those ways - Huckabee - has may have disappeared today with the emergence of this story.  Huckabee may well have been finished even earlier.  The corporate tycoons and the robber barons  Executive Elite who control the inner workings of the GOP would have seen to it that a populist candidate never]with the common touch (would become) the nominee, no matter how sympathetic he may have been to their Christofascist policies.  

This means that the Clinton-but-not Obama states are in danger of falling to the Democrats.  These states are culturally different.  Time will tell if they will vote for a candidate who has improved their economic situation rather than one who shares their regressive values political culture.

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It is worth nothing that Huckabee is more popular among the 18-25 demographic than any other Republican candidate.

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As young people become increasingly liberal, they need someone who can reach out to them.  So far, the GOP has churned out Sarah Palin - a mediocrity who has not proved herself intelligent enough to win (a nationwide) election, much less serve as President.

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I don't use the hackneyed term "robber barons" for contemporary plutocrats or the word "Christofascist". I recognize the current configuration of the GOP as a coalition of right-wing special interests to the exclusion of almost all else.

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« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2009, 07:51:35 pm »
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It strikes me that this incident is a boon to Sarah Palin.  With Huckabee now damaged, she will have a stronger hold on the Religious Right/conservative blue collar vote.  Even if she doesn't run, they will likely have to appease her somehow.
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In case anyone wonders what happened to the real pbrower2a, then I am he; imitation is flattery, but when it is that blatant it is plagiarism.  

A dumb prank, really, but kinda reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LghBMBAAQiI&feature=related
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« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2009, 09:47:45 pm »
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The GOP has few ways to win and many to lose in 2012.  One of those ways - Huckabee - has disappeared today with the emergence of this story.  Huckabee may well have been finished even earlier.  The corporate tycoons and the robber barons who control the inner workings of the GOP would have seen to it that a populist candidate never became the nominee, no matter how sympathetic he may have been to their Christofascist policies.  This means that the Clinton-but-not Obama states are in danger of falling to the Democrats.  These states are culturally different.  Time will tell if they will vote for a candidate who has improved their economic situation rather than one who shares their regressive values.

It is worth nothing that Huckabee is more popular among the 18-25 demographic than any other Republican candidate.  As young people become increasingly liberal, they need someone who can reach out to them.  So far, the GOP has churned out Sarah Palin - a mediocrity who has not proved herself intelligent enough to win an election, much less serve as President. 

Knock it off you robotic clown. Every conversation is not about the 2012 electoral map.

Oops, you're going to feel silly in a little while...

The fact remains that he is a jackass.
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« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2009, 05:38:37 pm »
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« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2009, 06:11:19 pm »
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Huckabee is done. He will never survive this onsluaght, even if much of isn't fair, the fact remains that those murders were a direct result of Mike Huckabee.


Cheers, President Romney.
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Huckabee is done. He will never survive this onsluaght, even if much of isn't fair, the fact remains that those murders were a direct result of Mike Huckabee.


Cheers, President Romney.

What isn't fair?
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« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2009, 09:19:26 pm »
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Huckabee is done. He will never survive this onsluaght, even if much of isn't fair, the fact remains that those murders were a direct result of Mike Huckabee.


Cheers, President Romney.

President Romney?

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« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2009, 01:38:31 am »
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I think Huckabee is better off staying where he's at with his show on Fox.
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« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2009, 01:57:03 am »
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I think Huckabee is better off staying where he's at with his show on Fox.
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« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2009, 03:44:16 pm »
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I guess not:

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/12/08/huckabee_unscathed.html
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« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2009, 03:51:58 pm »
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I'm sure he would get hammered on it in the primaries though. Quite frankly, most people have no idea that he let the guy out of jail. Not everyone is politically in-tuned like the rest of us.
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« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2009, 03:55:49 pm »


As I just posted in another thread about Palin quitting as governor, most voters don't follow stuff like this.  Huckabee is hardly in the public eye anymore, and most people aren't following news about him.  The question, rather, is how this would play in a primary election campaign as the other candidates try to educate the voters about it.
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« Reply #48 on: December 12, 2009, 08:29:58 pm »
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I'm sure he would get hammered on it in the primaries though. Quite frankly, most people have no idea that he let the guy out of jail. Not everyone is politically in-tuned like the rest of us.

His primary opponents might use it, recalling the very-effective "Willie Horton" ad, but Obama would never use it against Huckabee for reasons that should be obvious. 
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« Reply #49 on: December 12, 2009, 09:35:20 pm »
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His primary opponents would try to use it against him but it might be less damaging than Romney's and Pawlenty's support for the bailout and Palin's incomplete term.  The fact remains that Huckabee has as high (or higher) favorables as any Republican candidate and would have a good shot of winning 2 of the first 3 state contests with Iowa and South Carolina.  Huckabee is not finished but obviously the tragic story that he played a role in would pose problems for him.

Huckabee is the most likely of those four candidates to skip 2012 but that was true even before this tragedy.  Unlike almost every other potential candidate, Huckabee has a high-paying and high-profile job that he would have to give up to run (against an incumbent, in wartime, just 4 years after the White House switched parties,  about 3 years from now when the economy will hopefully be undergoing a major recovery).  It's a gamble I doubt he'll take when push comes to shove.
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