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« on: December 01, 2009, 07:13:32 PM »
« edited: January 06, 2014, 06:14:04 PM by A dog on every car, a car in every elevator »

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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2009, 07:19:12 PM »

You forgot to say "April Fools".
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 10:34:18 PM »

On 4/1/11

Romney 31%
Palin 22%
Daniels 10%
Pawlenty 8%
Johnson 5%
Barbour 3%
Undecided 21%

I think way higher undecideds at such a far out point in the election. Romney/Palin are the only candidates well known. Mitch Daniels is my 3rd wheel in this election, and I think he has a decent chance.
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2009, 10:45:49 PM »

Mitt Romney 44%


Nothing can stop Mitt Romney!
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2009, 05:53:46 AM »

Match-ups

Obama - 50%
Romney - 46.5%

Obama - 53%
Palin - 46%

Obama - 51%
The Huckster - 45% (Third place in primaries atm)

Alexi Giannoulias is expected to give the Keynote Speech at the DNC.

Obama Approval - 55%

No percentages for the primaries but: Romney, Palin, Huckabee, Gingrich and Pawlenty, in that order.

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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 06:07:14 AM »

National primary polls will be pretty much the same as they are today (and just as meaningless).  The candidates who are currently unknown will be pretty much as unknown on April 1, 2011, as the debates won't even have started yet.  (Keep in mind, in April 2007, Romney was at about 6% nationally, and Huckabee was at 2%.)

More interesting is whether any of the currently obscure candidates will have made any headway in Iowa or New Hampshire and where things stand after the first quarter of fundraising.
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 03:50:40 PM »

I hope that Romney has the nerve to get vicious with Palin. He needs to come off as the common sense candidate or she'll eat him alive amongst moderate social conservatives.
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2009, 05:26:55 PM »

Gary Johnson landslide. I hope so at least.
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2009, 08:49:41 PM »


You don't think 36% of the Republican electorate is sufficiently dumb to support her?
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2009, 08:52:56 PM »

Obama approval rating in the gallup daily tracking poll: 44/49

Obama average lead over Sarah Palin: 48/46.5%
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2009, 12:04:41 PM »

Obama Approval in Tracking Poll: 39% Approve/59% Disapprove

Kucinich vs. Romney: Romney 56%-38%
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2009, 12:34:02 PM »

Obama Approval in Tracking Poll: 39% Approve/59% Disapprove

Kucinich vs. Romney: Romney 56%-38%

Harry Truman came back from that, even with a third-party and even fourth-party challenge. The 1948 Presidential election came close to a blowout, at least of Truman over Dewey. (303-189). 39 electoral votes went to a racist (Strom Thurmond), and two left-wing candidates (Wallace, Thomas) likely swung the vote in a couple of states. The Thurmond voters were not going to vote for Dewey.
 
Remember -- Barack Obama is one of the slickest campaigners in American history. He can learn something from about every President since at least Hoover -- except, of course, from his predecessor who has nothing to learn from other than how not to be President. A whistle-stop campaign would be too inefficient, but his campaign staff would surely come up with something more efficient.  Truman was also a slick campaigner, but he wasn't slicker than Obama is.
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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2009, 07:23:08 PM »

As published on the onion:

The ghost of Ronald Reagan - 42%
Richiard Nixon's disembodied head - 22%
Michael Palin - 15%
George Clinton - 11%
Huckleberry Finn - 4%
Donny Ozmond - 4%
Others - 3%
Dick Cheney - -25%
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2009, 09:09:31 PM »

Obama Approval in Tracking Poll: 39% Approve/59% Disapprove

Kucinich vs. Romney: Romney 56%-38%

You seriously assign positive probability to Kucinich winning a state in the primaries?
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2009, 09:54:31 PM »

National primary polls will be pretty much the same as they are today (and just as meaningless).  The candidates who are currently unknown will be pretty much as unknown on April 1, 2011, as the debates won't even have started yet.  (Keep in mind, in April 2007, Romney was at about 6% nationally, and Huckabee was at 2%.)

The difference is that many candidates will have announced or ruled out a run by then. Huckabee  leads the pack now, but in a year or so he'll probably already have announced that he's not going to run or not.

True, though there's always the possibility of something like the scenario with Gore and Gingrich in 2007, where it's completely obvious that they're not going to run, but they haven't definitively ruled it out, and so the media keeps polling them well beyond the point at which it makes sense to do so.  I see this as especially likely with Gingrich and Palin, as I think they just want attention more than anything else, so they could easily string people along throughout 2011, making it seem like they're going to run when they really won't.
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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2009, 06:51:00 PM »

Obama Approval in Tracking Poll: 39% Approve/59% Disapprove

Kucinich vs. Romney: Romney 56%-38%

You seriously assign positive probability to Kucinich winning a state county in the primaries?
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2009, 06:04:41 AM »

Obama Approval in Tracking Poll: 39% Approve/59% Disapprove

Kucinich vs. Romney: Romney 56%-38%

Harry Truman came back from that, even with a third-party and even fourth-party challenge. The 1948 Presidential election came close to a blowout, at least of Truman over Dewey. (303-189). 39 electoral votes went to a racist (Strom Thurmond), and two left-wing candidates (Wallace, Thomas) likely swung the vote in a couple of states. The Thurmond voters were not going to vote for Dewey.
 
Remember -- Barack Obama is one of the slickest campaigners in American history. He can learn something from about every President since at least Hoover -- except, of course, from his predecessor who has nothing to learn from other than how not to be President. A whistle-stop campaign would be too inefficient, but his campaign staff would surely come up with something more efficient.  Truman was also a slick campaigner, but he wasn't slicker than Obama is.

Obama may be a slick campaigner, but he has been a complete and utter disaster as President.  He also has shown to be an extremely poor politician by trying to focus on third rail issues like health care.
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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2009, 11:46:50 AM »

Disaster? We had a disaster looming when Obama became President; take a look at the blue line:



Flawed as TARP may have been, it seems to have prevented a reprise of the worst part of the meltdown of 1929-1933. Take a good look at the blue line. The 2008 stock market crash within a downturn that began in 2007 that large-scale financial fraud made possible when GWB was President could have done huge damage. The gray line is for 1929-1933; the red and green lines are for less-severe crashes of 1973 and 2000. The blue line hugged the gray line at some points, and it is now around where the red and green lines are.

Large-scale investors as a rule buy into under-priced securities before they invest in plant and equipment that creates jobs.
 
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