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« Reply #175 on: December 08, 2009, 04:25:16 pm »
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2. In order for any change to occur to method of selection, the vote must meet the following conditions:
A. 60% of voters must vote in the affirmative
B. 50% of the votes cast in the most recent election, whether regional or federal, but not the ratification of constitutional amendments, must be cast.

(Changed the wording a bit, hope you don't mind.)
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« Reply #176 on: December 08, 2009, 04:27:50 pm »
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I don't mind the word changing, however, I am willing to bring it down to 60% if that would get your vote
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« Reply #177 on: December 08, 2009, 04:32:13 pm »
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Well I can't say I honestly support it. I don't see any real need for additional restrictions on regional rights.

The same way that elections to offices work and the ratification of constitutional amendments, there are no turnout requirements. This, of course, places responsibility on the voter to make sure his voice is heard.

I have proposed this amendment to allow my fellow senators to vote on it and decide what system is best. I can't personally vote in favor of it.

I would still vote for the final bill, though, regardless of whether this amendment passes. It's a compromise that would be acceptable to me, if necessary.
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« Reply #178 on: December 08, 2009, 04:37:45 pm »
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     Regions should be able to unilaterally change the requirements for their own vote if they so wish.
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« Reply #179 on: December 08, 2009, 04:39:08 pm »
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    Regions should be able to unilaterally change the requirements for their own vote if they so wish.

That's actually an even better idea.

Although I think that would already be the case under Xahar's proposal Wink
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« Reply #180 on: December 08, 2009, 05:33:25 pm »
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     Regions should be able to unilaterally change the requirements for their own vote if they so wish.

Well, we are all agreeing to that, except DWTL, who is imagining a plot to destroy regions.
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« Reply #181 on: December 08, 2009, 09:17:14 pm »
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     Regions should be able to unilaterally change the requirements for their own vote if they so wish.

That's actually an even better idea.

Although I think that would already be the case under Xahar's proposal Wink

Indeed it is. PiT is not an obstructionist; hence, his concerns have been taken into account.
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« Reply #182 on: December 09, 2009, 01:15:45 pm »
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One question from the gallery:

Does the proposal as currently written allow a single region to vote to terminate a voting partnership they previously entered?
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« Reply #183 on: December 09, 2009, 01:48:28 pm »
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One question from the gallery:

Does the proposal as currently written allow a single region to vote to terminate a voting partnership they previously entered?

Obviously, since regions are free to decide.
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« Reply #184 on: December 09, 2009, 03:22:30 pm »
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One question from the gallery:

Does the proposal as currently written allow a single region to vote to terminate a voting partnership they previously entered?

The current proposal is written as regions decide all. So, yes, a region can leave unilaterally a hypothetical partnership.
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« Reply #185 on: December 09, 2009, 08:11:50 pm »
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This has been debated to death. I don't think anything else meaningful will be added.

Time for a vote?
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« Reply #186 on: December 09, 2009, 08:22:30 pm »
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This has been debated to death. I don't think anything else meaningful will be added.

Time for a vote?

How many Senators there is now?
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« Reply #187 on: December 09, 2009, 08:23:01 pm »
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« Reply #188 on: December 09, 2009, 10:39:32 pm »
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In the spirit of allowing this to move forward to a public vote, I will be voting Aye.
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« Reply #189 on: December 10, 2009, 06:13:57 pm »
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Regional Self-Determination Amendment

The qualifications and means of election for Class A seats in the Senate may be changed by the Regions to whom they belong.



I hereby open the final vote on this Constitutional amendment.

Please vote AYE, NAY or ABSTAIN. 6 votes in favor are required for passage.

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« Reply #190 on: December 10, 2009, 06:15:17 pm »
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« Reply #191 on: December 10, 2009, 06:16:43 pm »
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« Reply #192 on: December 10, 2009, 06:17:43 pm »
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« Reply #193 on: December 10, 2009, 10:03:23 pm »
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« Reply #194 on: December 11, 2009, 10:55:02 am »
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« Reply #195 on: December 11, 2009, 01:27:22 pm »
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Aye
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« Reply #196 on: December 11, 2009, 07:32:06 pm »
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Aye: 4
Nay: 1

I'm not counting Marokai's vote....don't think I'm allowed to now that he's no longer a senator.

Two more votes in favor are necessary for passage.
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« Reply #197 on: December 12, 2009, 11:36:31 am »
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« Reply #198 on: December 12, 2009, 03:02:18 pm »
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« Reply #199 on: December 12, 2009, 06:38:01 pm »
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Aye: 4
Nay: 1

I'm not counting Marokai's vote....don't think I'm allowed to now that he's no longer a senator.

Two more votes in favor are necessary for passage.

Basis?
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