Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 26, 2015, 04:43:36 am
HomePredMockPollEVCalcAFEWIKIHelpLogin Register
News: Don't forget to get your 2013 Gubernatorial Endorsements and Predictions in!

+  Atlas Forum
|-+  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion
| |-+  U.S. Presidential Election Results (Moderator: True Federalist)
| | |-+  1960
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Poll
Question: Whom would you support?
Kennedy (D)   -17 (45.9%)
Kennedy (R)   -2 (5.4%)
Kennedy (I/O)   -6 (16.2%)
Nixon (D)   -4 (10.8%)
Nixon (R)   -5 (13.5%)
Nixon (I/O)   -2 (5.4%)
Unpledged (D)   -0 (0%)
Unpledged (R)   -1 (2.7%)
Unpledged (I/O)   -0 (0%)
Show Pie Chart
Total Voters: 36

Author Topic: 1960  (Read 3125 times)
Хahar
Xahar
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 38960
Bangladesh


View Profile
« on: December 02, 2009, 09:04:49 pm »
Ignore

Nixon (D) for me.
Logged

Update reading list

The idea of parodying the preceding Atlasian's postings is laughable, of course, but not for reasons one might expect.
hcallega
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 1558
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.10, S: -3.90

View Profile
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2009, 09:16:52 pm »
Ignore

Kennedy most definately. One of my top three Presidents.
Logged


"There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right with America."-President William Jefferson Clinton
"There is not a liberal America and a conservative America — there is the United States of America."-Senator Barack Obama
Warner for President '16
benconstine
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 30551
United States


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2009, 10:10:09 pm »
Ignore

Kennedy (D).
Logged

Obama High's debate team:

"Now let me be clear...I...I...um...uh...now let me be clear.  I strongly condemn the affirmative in the strongest possible terms, and I am closely monitoring their arguments.  Let me be clear on this."
Rob
Bob
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 6313
United States
Political Matrix
E: -6.32, S: -9.39

View Profile
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2009, 10:55:01 pm »
Ignore

Kennedy (D), of course. A Nixon victory in 1960 would only have accelerated the "southern strategy"- why do you think he screamed at Lodge when he promised to appoint a "Negro" to the Cabinet?
Logged

Here’s what Sarah Palin represents: being a fat fucking pig who pins “Country First” buttons on his man titties and chants “U-S-A! U-S-A!” at the top of his lungs while his kids live off credit cards and Saudis buy up all the mortgages in Kansas.
War on Want
Evilmexicandictator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 7681
Uzbekistan


Political Matrix
E: -6.19, S: -8.00

View Profile
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2009, 10:59:42 pm »
Ignore

Kennedy, I accidentally voted for Nixon in the poll.
Logged
Alexander Hamilton
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 9326
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.58, S: -5.13

View Profile
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 11:43:13 pm »
Ignore

NIXON
Logged

people suck
Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl
Libertas
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 15147
Finland


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 11:50:27 pm »
Ignore

Nixon.

Having LBJ a heartbeat away from the presidency would be a horrifying prospect even with Kennedy's youth.

Recognizing that in 1960 would be rather prophetic...
Logged

Хahar
Xahar
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 38960
Bangladesh


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 02:19:35 am »
Ignore

Kennedy (D), of course. A Nixon victory in 1960 would only have accelerated the "southern strategy"- why do you think he screamed at Lodge when he promised to appoint a "Negro" to the Cabinet?

I don't think cutting off right-wing "Democrats" in the South was a bad thing.

Kennedy, on the other hand, very much campaigned in a right-wing manner. His main difference from Nixon was that he would escalate the Cold War from Eisenhower's levels. In addition, it would have left Lyndon Johnson a heartbeat away from the Presidency, as Libertas so eloquently put it.
Logged

Update reading list

The idea of parodying the preceding Atlasian's postings is laughable, of course, but not for reasons one might expect.
Boris
boris78
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 7091
United Kingdom


Political Matrix
E: -1.55, S: -4.52

P
View Profile WWW
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2009, 02:44:11 am »
Ignore

In addition, it would have left Lyndon Johnson a heartbeat away from the Presidency

would you have cared c. 1960?
Logged

Хahar
Xahar
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 38960
Bangladesh


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2009, 02:54:37 am »
Ignore

In addition, it would have left Lyndon Johnson a heartbeat away from the Presidency

would you have cared c. 1960?

Probably not.
Logged

Update reading list

The idea of parodying the preceding Atlasian's postings is laughable, of course, but not for reasons one might expect.
Franzl
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 22421
Germany


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2009, 05:48:37 am »
Ignore

Nixon (D)
Logged
CPT MikeyMike
mikeymike
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3621
United States


Political Matrix
E: 6.58, S: -3.30

View Profile
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2009, 09:14:04 am »
Ignore

Undecided. 

Although had it been Lodge v. LBJ, it would have been Lodge hands down.
Logged



You kip if you want to...
change08
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 9009
United Kingdom


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2009, 09:17:22 am »
Ignore

Kennedy (D) Smiley
Logged

GPORTER
gporter
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 5261
United States


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2009, 06:53:03 pm »
Ignore

Kennedy (R)
Logged

Job 19:25,27 John 9 John 11:1-12:11 John 1:17 John 21:20-23 Acts 12:1-23 Psalm 19:14 Psalm 3:3
phk
phknrocket1k
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 12972


Political Matrix
E: 1.42, S: -1.22

View Profile
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2009, 07:43:05 pm »
Ignore

Nixon (D) for me.

Why?
Logged

Jbrase
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 5980
United States


Political Matrix
E: 6.32, S: -5.74


View Profile
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2009, 08:33:54 pm »
Ignore

Kennedy (R)
Logged
CJK
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 676
United States


View Profile
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2009, 09:03:03 pm »
Ignore

Unpledged. They both stink.
Logged
Badger
badger
Moderators
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 11338
United States


View Profile
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2009, 11:41:46 am »
Ignore

Kennedy (D) hands down.

I'll give Nixon his foreign policy props (SALT, reproachment with China), as well as his raspberries (expanding the war into Cambodia and Laos, having to be dragged kicking and screaming out of Vietnam, deposing Allende in Chile for IT&T and Anaconda Copper thus giving rise to the Pinochet junta). Given his practice in Vietnam, I find it odd that so many want to decry LBJ's policy (rightfully) somehow convince themselves Nixon would've been any better.

More importantly, with Watergate and Nixon's unprecedented degree of abuse of executive power being a matter of historical record, how can one look back at such an absolute bast$%d with any kind of nostalgia?
« Last Edit: December 05, 2009, 11:44:02 am by Badger »Logged

Your self-serving slacktivism is propelling America to new heights.
Scam of God
Einzige
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 5231
United States


Political Matrix
E: 6.19, S: -9.91

View Profile
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2009, 12:31:51 pm »
Ignore

I voted as Kennedy (I/O) in this poll. Kennedy cut taxes. Nixon raised them.
Logged

Life is change --
How it differs from the rocks
I've seen their ways
Too often for my liking

New worlds to gain
My life is to survive
And be alive
For you


- Jefferson Airplane, "Crown of Creation"

The right to die in Iraq was a right not previously possessed by Americans for twelve long years.  Bush rectified that.
Rob
Bob
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 6313
United States
Political Matrix
E: -6.32, S: -9.39

View Profile
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2009, 12:56:16 pm »
Ignore

I don't think cutting off right-wing "Democrats" in the South was a bad thing.

This was accomplished irl when the Kennedy Administration embraced civil rights legislation in 1963.

Kennedy, on the other hand, very much campaigned in a right-wing manner. His main difference from Nixon was that he would escalate the Cold War from Eisenhower's levels.

Kennedy ran to Nixon's "right" on foreign policy in the campaign, but this didn't mean anything. e.g., Kennedy attacked Eisenhower for not deposing Castro, but the Republican Administration was plotting his demise behind closed doors. There would have been no difference on Vietnam, either, except that Nixon may have escalated the war faster- the seeds of this policy were planted under Eisenhower (and Truman), after all.
Logged

Here’s what Sarah Palin represents: being a fat fucking pig who pins “Country First” buttons on his man titties and chants “U-S-A! U-S-A!” at the top of his lungs while his kids live off credit cards and Saudis buy up all the mortgages in Kansas.
Ebowed
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 16878
Australia


Political Matrix
E: -8.32, S: -9.30

View Profile WWW
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2009, 10:40:40 pm »
Ignore

John Kennedy.
Logged

A tidal wave of healthcare has swept across coal country. 
ShadowOfTheWave
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 1951
United States


View Profile
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2009, 10:50:44 pm »
Ignore

Definately Nixon. I would have been a hardcore Republican until 1980.
Logged
President Mitt
Giovanni
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3588
Samoa


View Profile
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2009, 10:53:44 pm »
Ignore

Nixon
Logged

[This space is available for purchase]
Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 31323
United States


View Profile
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2009, 01:21:04 pm »
Ignore

Nixon

Probably this ^^^
Logged

He's BACK!!! His Time Has Come Once Again! Now We're All Gonna Die! No One is Safe From His Wrath!



Bo
Rochambeau
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 14376
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -5.23, S: -2.52

View Profile
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2009, 02:27:16 pm »
Ignore

Nixon (D). He was much more experienced than Kennedy and had better judgment on many issues as well (with the exception of Watergate). Kennedy screwed up the Bay of Pigs, caused the Cuban Missile Crisis by placing American missiles in Turkey and frightening the Soviet Union, and threatening to place sanctions of Israel (an American ally) when it was building nuclear weapons since all of its neighbors wanted to destroy it. In constrast, Nixon established relations with China, advanced detente with the Soviet Union, founded the EPA, removed the U.S. of off the gold standard, and prevented a possible nuclear war or confrontation when he saved Israel from destruction in the Yom Kippur War (and thus prevented Israel from using its nukes on Egypt and Syria, thus possibly provoking the Soviet Union and haivng things get really out of hand).
Logged

Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Logout

Powered by SMF 1.1.20 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines