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« Reply #150 on: June 01, 2011, 03:48:32 PM »

Well, it's finally dead. Sad So sad to see it go, but it had to happen.
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« Reply #151 on: June 01, 2011, 05:59:53 PM »

Well, it's finally dead. Sad So sad to see it go, but it had to happen.

Buck up! You can be a Democrat. Tongue
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« Reply #152 on: June 01, 2011, 07:46:47 PM »

Im wondering if the Democrats should simply rename themselves "Conservatives".
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« Reply #153 on: June 01, 2011, 07:58:59 PM »

Im wondering if the Democrats should simply rename themselves "Conservatives".

Like there weren't conservative Democrats... here's just almost entire party Wink
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« Reply #154 on: June 01, 2011, 08:23:57 PM »

Joe Martin should be much more comfortable in his congressional district now, than OTL (unless he's been re-districted.)
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« Reply #155 on: June 02, 2011, 04:59:53 PM »

February 21, 1942: With Molotov still busy in Washington, there was also a guest in Moscow. On that date, Senator Claude D. Pepper of Florida arrived to the Kremlin, to meet with the Soviet leadership, including Joseph Stalin. A lone Progressive statewide elected official in the Deep South (if we wouldn't count caucused Louisiana's Huey Long, whose influence recently weakens, due to a loud corruption scandals), despite lack of a strong base, was reelected without much difficulty in 1938 for the first full term, thanks to his incredible ability to stay in a touch with his usually Democratic constituents, knowing their needs like anyone else. A strong supporter of the late President La Follette's agenda, Pepper did not have memorable achievements on domestic fields, especially now, with Democratic-controlled Congress, but became known as one of the leading advocated of the liberal forces in the national politics. However, despite those significant differences, he and the key Democrats, including President Ely, were in a total agreement regarding a need to aid the USSR against Japanese threat. Thus he was now in Moscow, officially as a head of the congressional trip, but unofficially, as the President's informal envoy to the very Soviet top.

February 22, 1942: President Ely orders General Douglas MacArthur to make sure, the Philippines will be prepared in a case of U.S. involvement in the Pacific War.

February 26, 1942: The worst coal dust explosion to date, in Honkeiko, China, claims 1549 lives.

March 1, 1942: By a controversial proclamation, President Ely orders all aliens in the United States to register with the federal government.

April 2, 1942: "Operation Tiger". After a months of a stealmate, France launched a major offensive on German defense positions along Rhine river. A newly organized armoured divisions, supported by a strategic bombings: a brainchild of General Charles de Gaulle, Prime Minister Reynaud's military right hand man, which strategy was latter called a "lighting war".

April 17, 1942: With French advance in the West and Polish reaching as far as Magdeburg, President Writh, from a temporary capital of Erfurt, decided to dismiss war government of Chancellor von Papen and send emissaries, asking for a ceasefire.

April 30, 1942: The Weimar Republic surrenders conditionally to the France, Poland and Czechoslovakia.
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« Reply #156 on: June 04, 2011, 10:45:13 PM »

What will happen to Germany in the peace settlement?
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« Reply #157 on: June 05, 2011, 07:12:04 AM »

What will happen to Germany in the peace settlement?

I don't know yet.
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« Reply #158 on: June 06, 2011, 10:19:00 AM »

May 2, 1942: With a celebrations erupting in Paris, Warsaw and Prague, terms of the German conditional surrender are released to the jubilant public: disarmament of the Reichswehr and detaining a significant part of the officers corps as POWs, as well as Entente military control over key elements of Germany's infrastructure. Weimar Republic government located in Erfurth, headed by President Writh (who already dismissed von Papen's cabinet) continues to operate, but it's power is curbed with a presence of the Entente commissioners.

May 8, 1942: Tragedy in the New York City, as car bomb claims a life of a recognized Irish Prime Minister in exile, Eamon de Valera. British agents are instantly blamed, with London rejecting any responsibility for the act.

May 10, 1942: We're not interested in any plans in breaking down Germany or partitioning it. It would have disastrous consequences in future, President Sosnkowski told French Ambassador, as the first post-victory "big three" conference is announced for May 30 in Warsaw. Our territorial demands are strictly limited to the East Prussia and, of course, Gdańsk. We need to think about making Germany an useful part of the Europe in future.
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« Reply #159 on: June 06, 2011, 11:22:39 AM »
« Edited: June 06, 2011, 10:01:18 PM by Dom Pedro II »

The Stalemate


Second Entente


From left to right: Paul Reynaud, Kazimierz Sosnkowski and Edvard Benes

The second Entente was formed in results of the post-Great War breakup between two major powers of it's predecessor: France and the United Kingdom. France was primarily interested in ensuring that defeated Germany won't be powerful enough to start yet another was in future and endanger them, like in 1870. Those sentiments were, naturally, shared in newly-reestablished countries, most notably Poland and Czechoslovakia.

The Commonwealth


From left to right: Lord Halifax, Mackenzie King and John Curtin

After Germany capitulation, a camp of the Entente's enemies was basically reduced to the Commonwealth. Although Entente hold an unmatched military superiority in Europe, the Commonwealth, especially British, had the most powerful navy, numerous overseas territories and, thus, almost unlimited resources. Neither could the Commonwealth forces threat Entente's dominance in Europe, nor could Entente threat Commonwealth's possessions.

The Fascists


The second, and the smallest, bloc in Europe was consisting fascist Italy and their two allies: Austria and Romania. Fascists kept a neutrality, being afraid of both French dominance in the continental Europe, as well as British colonial interests, threatening Italian higher and higher ambition. The Fascists could become a highly valuable tool to break the stalemate if joined one of the two bitterly opposing camps.
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« Reply #160 on: June 06, 2011, 09:50:45 PM »

Do the Polish just want Danzig or do they want East Prussia and Silesia as well?  I am guessing that France wants the Saar land, the Rhine land and to basically reduce Germany to its modern size in OTL and perhaps minus the Rhur river valley.
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« Reply #161 on: June 06, 2011, 09:57:45 PM »

Do the Polish just want Danzig or do they want East Prussia and Silesia as well?  I am guessing that France wants the Saar land, the Rhine land and to basically reduce Germany to its modern size in OTL and perhaps minus the Rhur river valley.

I must say it would be very, very tempting, for butterflies sake, to impel some kind of Morthangeau plan and partion Germany into separate entities (Republic of Prussia, Republic of Bavaria...), but I really like Weimar survival.
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« Reply #162 on: June 06, 2011, 09:59:16 PM »

Ftr, "stalemate", not "stealmate".
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« Reply #163 on: June 06, 2011, 10:00:37 PM »


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« Reply #164 on: June 07, 2011, 02:57:20 PM »


I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but it's "spellcheck"
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« Reply #165 on: June 07, 2011, 07:17:30 PM »

Do the Polish just want Danzig or do they want East Prussia and Silesia as well?  I am guessing that France wants the Saar land, the Rhine land and to basically reduce Germany to its modern size in OTL and perhaps minus the Rhur river valley.

I must say it would be very, very tempting, for butterflies sake, to impel some kind of Morthangeau plan and partion Germany into separate entities (Republic of Prussia, Republic of Bavaria...), but I really like Weimar survival.

....Well Morthangeau would basically overturn von Bismark's polity and return Germany back to where it was pre-1860s, but with Republican, instead of Privately-owned (which basically what Fuedalism was) city states, right?
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« Reply #166 on: June 07, 2011, 07:34:27 PM »

Original Morgenthau Plan:



I was thinking about something more complicated (more pre-1870 borders), so we could have Republic of Prussia, Kingdom of Bavaria, Republic of Hamburg, Duchy of Lippe Wink
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« Reply #167 on: June 07, 2011, 09:05:48 PM »

Or give Saar to France, turn the "International Zone" into the Republic of Westphalia (Capital- Bonn), Poland retains both their Eastern Frotier and pushes westward to the Oder (basically Poland in 1945 plus what it lost), the Republic of Prussia (Capital- Berlin), the Republic of Bavaria and Saxonia (Capital- Munich) and the State of Holstien (Capital- Hamburg).
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« Reply #168 on: June 11, 2011, 01:20:20 PM »

Or give Saar to France, turn the "International Zone" into the Republic of Westphalia (Capital- Bonn), Poland retains both their Eastern Frotier and pushes westward to the Oder (basically Poland in 1945 plus what it lost), the Republic of Prussia (Capital- Berlin), the Republic of Bavaria and Saxonia (Capital- Munich) and the State of Holstien (Capital- Hamburg).

Tempting, but Rocky would kill me for that.
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« Reply #169 on: June 11, 2011, 01:56:15 PM »

...or you could just have the post-1945 boundaries, with Poland keeping the USSR out of its eastern frontier and Poland snatching the Saarlands for good.  ...or you could have the abolition of Germany in its entirety with France, Poland and Czechoslavkia  partioning it with France getting everything to the Elbe, Poland getting what's left, minus Saxony and Eastern Bavaria, which goes to Czech.
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« Reply #170 on: June 13, 2011, 05:07:31 AM »
« Edited: July 06, 2011, 06:44:23 AM by RIP Itamar »

May 12, 1942: Senators Claude Pepper (P-FL) and Harry S. Truman (D-MO) launched a bipartisan congressional investigation regarding a waste and mismanagement in defense institutions. Although President Ely intially worried that the investigation can hurt armed forces' morals, and most conservative Congressional Democrats, led by "Cotton Tom" Heflin, accused the two of being "a slashers of our military", the Pepper-Truman Committee eventually managed to improve a condition of the armed forces.

May 14, 1942: Aaron Copland's Lincoln Portrait is performed for the first time by the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra.

June 6, 1942: Despite enjoying a nationwide respect after Entente victory in continent, comparable only to Georges Clemenceau's "Father of the Victory" fame in 1918, Prime Minister Paul Reynaud had to resign after losing parliamentary support, which was all but unusual under the Third Republic.

June 10, 1942: Pierre Laval replaced Reynaud, with a support of the right-wing parties.

July 29, 1942: The Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union institutes the Order of Suvorov, the Order of Kutuzov, and reinstates the Order of Alexander Nevsky.

September 1942: Due to lack of resources and a dangerously long supply lines, Japan resigns from the 1943 spring offensive plans in the Siberia.

November 3, 1942: President Ely's first midterm elections saw moderate Democratic gains in the House.

December 2, 1942: Scientists at the University of Chicago demonstrate the first sustained nuclear chain reaction.

December 5, 1942: The Japanese submarine sunks the large American arm shipment near Alaska.

December 7, 1942: President Ely authorizes American ships, that are escorting supplies, to fire at any Japanese ship at sight without a warning.

December 11, 1942: Japan bombs Anchorage, an important U.S. naval base in proximity to the USSR coast.

December 12, 1942: Empire of Japan declares war on the United States.

December 13, 1942: United States declares war on Japan and it's allies.
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« Reply #171 on: June 13, 2011, 05:58:38 AM »

...And we are in!
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« Reply #172 on: June 30, 2011, 08:42:50 AM »
« Edited: July 06, 2011, 06:42:39 AM by RIP Itamar »

December 20, 1942: Major General Dwight D. Eisenhower arrives to Vladivostok, after a difficult journey through Alaska. Nickmaned "Ike", the General has been just named chief of the American military mission in Siberia, endangered by the Japanese forces. Although there was a number of American Generals, that were considered better strategists and commanders than unassuming Eisenhower, "Ike" was considered a great diplomat in uniform. Well, he's not Napoleon, but he can work and get along with everyone, Secretary of War James Byrnes admitted off-the-record. And that's what we need right now. Many later attributes the two-stars General nomination to that key post to Senator Pepper's influence, as the two get along well during Eisenhower's time as an Army Senate liaison.

December 28, 1942: Bonnet Plan arrives to the government chancelleries in Paris, Warsaw and Prague. Named after it's chief author, the new French Foreign Minister Georges Bonnet, the plan proposed giving a Saarland to France, demilitarization of Nadrenia and a major territorial gains for Poland (Danzig, the entire West Prussia and lower Silesia).

January 4, 1943: Progressive incumbent Culbert Olson is inaugurated for his second term as Governor of California.

January 12, 1943: A major shocker. When Washington was expecting Japanese invasion on Hawaii, it was Alaska where Japanese troops started to land.
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« Reply #173 on: June 30, 2011, 12:01:22 PM »

January 12, 1942: A major shocker. When Washington was expecting Japanese invasion on Hawaii, it was Alaska where Japanese troops started to land.

Shouldn't that be 1943?
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« Reply #174 on: June 30, 2011, 12:16:38 PM »

January 12, 1942: A major shocker. When Washington was expecting Japanese invasion on Hawaii, it was Alaska where Japanese troops started to land.

Shouldn't that be 1943?

True.
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