Stewart owns Fox News Yet Again

[Smash255]

Rasmussen recently put out a poll about how likely people thought Scientists fixed Global Warming Data.  He reported that 59% said it was at least somewhat likely, 35% said very likely 26% said not likely.  Fox decides to count at least somewhat likely as just somewhat likely then adds very likely.

Link to the video and Stewart's commentary, warning listening to the Fox portion might make your head explode.


http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/the-daily-show-explores-the-self-dumbing-down-of-fox-friends-gretchen-carlson.php

[So the Heroes Fall]

I remember a great Daily Show bit shortly after the Iraq War began:

"In other news a Fox News reporter was fired after caught looting artifacts from museums. Proving that yes, it is possible to do something to get fired from the Fox News Channel."

[President Marokai]

I've always enjoyed how Keith Olbermann refers to reporters and anchors from Fox News as "news models."

Regardless, the Daily Show is a classic, and hopefully doesn't go off the air for a long long time.

[Mint]

"You don't have to stash your IQ in an offshore account." Brilliant.

[memphis]

And again last night. You can check it out at thedailyshow.com

[MSG]

This is why i hate when people say that msnbc is just as bad as fox.  people like olbermann are hacks but this stuff is just so asine it makes one wonder how foxnews actually has viewers.  Then again america always has to prove pt barnum right.

[useful idiot]

This is why i hate when people say that msnbc is just as bad as fox.  people like olbermann are hacks but this stuff is just so asine it makes one wonder how foxnews actually has viewers.  Then again america always has to prove pt barnum right.

Yeah, MSNBC can be bad(I'm not opposed to the left wing slant, but I can't stand the personalities they have, with funnily enough the exceptions of Scarborough and Buchanan), but Fox News is on another level. It's a straight up parody of itself...

[paul718]

Couldn't it have merely been a mistake by whoever made the graphic?

[Joe Republic]

Couldn't it have merely been a mistake by whoever made the graphic?

But Lauren Petterson, executive producer of Fox & Friends, told POLITICO that she sees no error in the graphic. And for that reason, there will be no reprimand of staff under the "zero tolerance" policy.

"We were just talking about three interesting pieces of information from Rasmussen," Petterson said. "We didn't put on the screen that it added up to 100 percent."

[...]

While Petterson maintains that Fox & Friend's didn't err in displaying the information from Rasmussen, she acknowledges that the presentation wasn't perfect. "The mistake I do see is we could have been a little clearer here," she said.

[Torie]

What did the Ras poll actually say I wonder?

[Harry]

Epic joke at the 5-minute mark.  Just for that one comment I'm going to start watching the Daily Show again.

[Smash255]

Couldn't it have merely been a mistake by whoever made the graphic?

Fox has done this sort of thing too many times and this was just blatant.  The on air hosts said over 90% said it was likely, and when they mentioned the poll was taken prior to the e-mail controversy, they said it could be higher, ooh almost 100% chuckle chuckle

[Smash255]

Couldn't it have merely been a mistake by whoever made the graphic?

But Lauren Petterson, executive producer of Fox & Friends, told POLITICO that she sees no error in the graphic. And for that reason, there will be no reprimand of staff under the "zero tolerance" policy.

"We were just talking about three interesting pieces of information from Rasmussen," Petterson said. "We didn't put on the screen that it added up to 100 percent."

[...]

While Petterson maintains that Fox & Friend's didn't err in displaying the information from Rasmussen, she acknowledges that the presentation wasn't perfect. "The mistake I do see is we could have been a little clearer here," she said.

Someone should tell Lauren that when you remove "at least"" it kind of changes things the meaning......

[Snowguy716]

That was frickin hilarious.. though I think the one guy obviously caught it when she said "I think if they redid it those numbers would change"
and the guy says "yeah, they'd probably be closer to 100%"

Not meaning that even more people will agree with the question... but that the total will be closer to 100%.

Still I couldn't stop laughing the whole time... especially the clip of her playing violin preceded by her "googling" what a czar was.

She's so wholesome conservative and tech savvy all at the same time!

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

That one seemed to be an honest mistake (unlike the one Hannity's show pulled) - as the anchor is talking and adds them up in his head, he kinda stumbles around, and it seemed like he realized that the math didn't add up.  Now, the people behind the scenes could've done it on purpose, but I don't think this was as maliciously done as the stunt Hannity pulled with the Tea Party graphic.

[Smash255]

That one seemed to be an honest mistake (unlike the one Hannity's show pulled) - as the anchor is talking and adds them up in his head, he kinda stumbles around, and it seemed like he realized that the math didn't add up.  Now, the people behind the scenes could've done it on purpose, but I don't think this was as maliciously done as the stunt Hannity pulled with the Tea Party graphic.

If you make an honest mistake, you generally should try to correct it don't you think?  At least thats how it is in the real world.  Granted Fox and the real world are polar opposites, but you should at least attempt to correct your mistakes....

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

That one seemed to be an honest mistake (unlike the one Hannity's show pulled) - as the anchor is talking and adds them up in his head, he kinda stumbles around, and it seemed like he realized that the math didn't add up.  Now, the people behind the scenes could've done it on purpose, but I don't think this was as maliciously done as the stunt Hannity pulled with the Tea Party graphic.

If you make an honest mistake, you generally should try to correct it don't you think?  At least thats how it is in the real world.  Granted Fox and the real world are polar opposites, but you should at least attempt to correct your mistakes....

I'm not going to pretend to know what it's like to be a news anchor, but from my experiences on the few radio and TV shows I've done, when something catches you by surprise, it's harder than you'd think to make a simple correction.  Now, granted he does this all the time, so it may be easier for him - I'm not sure.  But if that'd have been me, I probably would've just kept going because I wouldn't know what else to do.

[Smash255]

That one seemed to be an honest mistake (unlike the one Hannity's show pulled) - as the anchor is talking and adds them up in his head, he kinda stumbles around, and it seemed like he realized that the math didn't add up.  Now, the people behind the scenes could've done it on purpose, but I don't think this was as maliciously done as the stunt Hannity pulled with the Tea Party graphic.

If you make an honest mistake, you generally should try to correct it don't you think?  At least thats how it is in the real world.  Granted Fox and the real world are polar opposites, but you should at least attempt to correct your mistakes....

I'm not going to pretend to know what it's like to be a news anchor, but from my experiences on the few radio and TV shows I've done, when something catches you by surprise, it's harder than you'd think to make a simple correction.  Now, granted he does this all the time, so it may be easier for him - I'm not sure.  But if that'd have been me, I probably would've just kept going because I wouldn't know what else to do.

Again, the people at Fixed and Friends are suppose to be Professional Anchors.  Granted it isn't the case, but bells should have gone off.  A simple something seems off here would have been a bit better rather than pretending nothing was wrong, and  continuing to talk up the poll for another couple minutes.  Everyone makes mistakes, but you should make an attempt to correct them when you make it.  Also the simple fact Fox has a tendency to make these type of mistakes and for some reason never correct them, and those mistakes always seem to put the Dems in a bad light, and/or are favorable to the GOP.  I would bet anything if Fox made a mistake that was favorable to the Dems, or put the GOP in a bad light they would be VERY QUICK to correct it.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

That one seemed to be an honest mistake (unlike the one Hannity's show pulled) - as the anchor is talking and adds them up in his head, he kinda stumbles around, and it seemed like he realized that the math didn't add up.  Now, the people behind the scenes could've done it on purpose, but I don't think this was as maliciously done as the stunt Hannity pulled with the Tea Party graphic.

If you make an honest mistake, you generally should try to correct it don't you think?  At least thats how it is in the real world.  Granted Fox and the real world are polar opposites, but you should at least attempt to correct your mistakes....

I'm not going to pretend to know what it's like to be a news anchor, but from my experiences on the few radio and TV shows I've done, when something catches you by surprise, it's harder than you'd think to make a simple correction.  Now, granted he does this all the time, so it may be easier for him - I'm not sure.  But if that'd have been me, I probably would've just kept going because I wouldn't know what else to do.

Again, the people at Fixed and Friends are suppose to be Professional Anchors.  Granted it isn't the case, but bells should have gone off.  A simple something seems off here would have been a bit better rather than pretending nothing was wrong, and  continuing to talk up the poll for another couple minutes.  Everyone makes mistakes, but you should make an attempt to correct them when you make it.  Also the simple fact Fox has a tendency to make these type of mistakes and for some reason never correct them, and those mistakes always seem to put the Dems in a bad light, and/or are favorable to the GOP.  I would bet anything if Fox made a mistake that was favorable to the Dems, or put the GOP in a bad light they would be VERY QUICK to correct it.

I agree that the error should've been fixed - I'm just saying that I don't think that the anchor was in on it.  Now - the error could've been intentional at the graphics department level - it might not have been.  I'm not going to pretend to know.  But I don't think the anchor intentionally knew about the error; however, he should've corrected it (or a producer should've directed him to do so).

[paul718]

Didn't the guy all the way to (our) right make a comment like, "Hopefully those numbers will add up to 100," or something to that effect?  I'm too lazy to rewatch.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

Didn't the guy all the way to (our) right make a comment like, "Hopefully those numbers will add up to 100," or something to that effect?  I'm too lazy to rewatch.

Not hopefully - he said they may if a poll was conducted after Climategate.  The way he said it though, he sounded like he was joking around, realizing that the numbers added up to more than 100%.

[Smash255]

Didn't the guy all the way to (our) right make a comment like, "Hopefully those numbers will add up to 100," or something to that effect?  I'm too lazy to rewatch.

Not hopefully - he said they may if a poll was conducted after Climategate.  The way he said it though, he sounded like he was joking around, realizing that the numbers added up to more than 100%.

Which he refused to point out...  And it didn't really sound like he was joking it was more of a haha almost everyone think its likely

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

Didn't the guy all the way to (our) right make a comment like, "Hopefully those numbers will add up to 100," or something to that effect?  I'm too lazy to rewatch.

Not hopefully - he said they may if a poll was conducted after Climategate.  The way he said it though, he sounded like he was joking around, realizing that the numbers added up to more than 100%.

Which he refused to point out...  And it didn't really sound like he was joking it was more of a haha almost everyone think its likely

That's not how I took it - I thought he was joking around, because at the point that the anchor said 90%, it was pretty obvious that there was an error.

[Joe Republic]

Inks, did either the anchors or the production team ever explicitly apologize for the misleading graphic?  You should find that the producer did the very opposite, in fact, by trying to claim that it showed what they intended to show all along.  Which is very telling, of course.

This is really the point with Fox News.  Even when they do admit they screwed up, they never apologize to their own viewers.  Take Hannity's deception the other week; he issued a less-than-half-hearted apology to Jon Stewart who revealed it - not his own viewers - and still managed to throw a snide quip in there too.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

Inks, did either the anchors or the production team ever explicitly apologize for the misleading graphic?  You should find that the producer did the very opposite, in fact, by trying to claim that it showed what they intended to show all along.  Which is very telling, of course.

This is really the point with Fox News.  Even when they do admit they screwed up, they never apologize to their own viewers.  Take Hannity's deception the other week; he issued a less-than-half-hearted apology to Jon Stewart who revealed it - not his own viewers - and still managed to throw a snide quip in there too.

I said that the producers should have directed the anchor to correct the mistake.  I'm in no way defending FOX - I'm merely saying that I don't fault the anchors in this case.  The producers, however, ought to be ashamed of themselves.