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Question: In restrictive clauses, do you sometimes use "which" in place of "that"?
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« on: December 12, 2009, 12:39:01 PM »
Not typically; but sometimes I will if I think it would significantly improve the rhythm of a sentence.

For the record,

Example of a restrictive clause:
   The book that [or which] Bob Smith wrote was extremely boring.

Example of a non-restrictive clause:
   The book, which Bob Smith wrote, was extremely boring.
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2009, 01:08:38 PM »
I just use both to avoid using one twice, such as "The book which Bob wrote that only he managed to read cover to cover was extremely boring."  I usually use which first, and then that. I have no idea if what I am doing is right or wrong
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2009, 01:12:46 PM »
Sometimes I do. Here in Fance we are forced to learn academic English intsead of real English... Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2009, 01:14:50 PM »
Microsoft word spell check taught me to use which with a comma and that without a comma. And that's what I do.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2009, 02:05:35 PM »
I usually just say "that."
Now that I work for a newspaper, the copy editors really hate me for using "that" where it doesn't need to be.
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2009, 02:39:10 PM »
How about "The book Bob Smith wrote"?
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2009, 03:28:25 PM »
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on December 12, 2009, 01:12:46 PM
Sometimes I do. Here in Fance we are forced to learn academic English intsead of real English... Tongue

Or rather "classical British English, full of British clichés, in which everything happens in London" than real English, well mostly, and at least for 'my epoch'.
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2009, 06:16:16 PM »
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on December 12, 2009, 01:12:46 PM
Sometimes I do. Here in Fance we are forced to learn academic English intsead of real English... Tongue

The French you speak is probably closer to real English than the English you learn.
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2009, 12:15:29 AM »
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on December 12, 2009, 01:12:46 PM
Sometimes I do. Here in Fance we are forced to learn academic English intsead of real English... Tongue

Unless you have to say "discourse" every three seconds, it isn't academic English you're leaning Grin
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2009, 01:39:57 AM »
I'd use "that" or use neither

so it'd be

"The book Bob Smith wrote was extremely boring."
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2009, 05:08:23 AM »
Quote from: Мagical Хahar on December 12, 2009, 06:16:16 PM
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on December 12, 2009, 01:12:46 PM
Sometimes I do. Here in Fance we are forced to learn academic English intsead of real English... Tongue

The French you speak is probably closer to real English than the English you learn.

True. Tongue
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