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Lewis Trondheim
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Re: What states have never had presidents?
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October 20, 2004, 02:50:51 pm »
Quote from: Senator StatesRights on October 20, 2004, 08:42:36 am
Quote from: Lewis Trondheim on October 20, 2004, 07:45:02 am
Quote from: Senator StatesRights on October 20, 2004, 12:07:43 am
Hoover was from Kansas. And I think he ran from California the second time around.
Hoover was born in Iowa (ask PB). But I thought he ran from California, too.
JQ Adams was from Massachusetts btw.
He ran from Kansas the first time around.
Adams? Unlikely.
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Re: What states have never had presidents?
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October 21, 2004, 04:19:34 am »
Quote from: Senator StatesRights on October 20, 2004, 08:42:36 am
Quote from: Lewis Trondheim on October 20, 2004, 07:45:02 am
Quote from: Senator StatesRights on October 20, 2004, 12:07:43 am
Hoover was from Kansas. And I think he ran from California the second time around.
Hoover was born in Iowa (ask PB). But I thought he ran from California, too.
JQ Adams was from Massachusetts btw.
He ran from Kansas the first time around.
According to this site, Hoover ran from California in 1928. His VP, Charles Curtis, was from Kansas.
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Lewis Trondheim
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Re: What states have never had presidents?
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October 21, 2004, 04:29:59 am »
Quote from: SCJ Nym90 on October 21, 2004, 04:19:34 am
Quote from: Senator StatesRights on October 20, 2004, 08:42:36 am
Quote from: Lewis Trondheim on October 20, 2004, 07:45:02 am
Quote from: Senator StatesRights on October 20, 2004, 12:07:43 am
Hoover was from Kansas. And I think he ran from California the second time around.
Hoover was born in Iowa (ask PB). But I thought he ran from California, too.
JQ Adams was from Massachusetts btw.
He ran from Kansas the first time around.
According to this site, Hoover ran from California in 1928. His VP, Charles Curtis, was from Kansas.
Oh, yeah, that is right. Well, Hoover certainly didn't run from Kansas then.
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Re: What states have never had presidents?
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Quote from: Lewis Trondheim on October 20, 2004, 07:51:23 am
There's quite a lot of presidents not born in the state they ran from.
The Vice Presidents are more exotic. One was born in Paris, and another in Ceylon, and one died in Berlin.
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Lewis Trondheim
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October 21, 2004, 08:45:14 am »
Quote from: jimrtex on October 21, 2004, 08:42:20 am
Quote from: Lewis Trondheim on October 20, 2004, 07:51:23 am
There's quite a lot of presidents not born in the state they ran from.
The Vice Presidents are more exotic. One was born in Paris, and another in Ceylon, and one died in Berlin.
What!? You sure you're not thinking of First Ladies or something? Vice Presidents, like Presidents, are required by the constitution to be native born or have immigrated to the US before 1789.
I've also been through the biographies of US vice presidents and I've not found any such reference.
(I have found reference to a -baseless- conspiracy theory that Chester A Arthur was really his older brother, who was born in Canada.)
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Re: What states have never had presidents?
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October 21, 2004, 12:05:15 pm »
Quote from: Lewis Trondheim on October 21, 2004, 08:45:14 am
Quote from: jimrtex on October 21, 2004, 08:42:20 am
Quote from: Lewis Trondheim on October 20, 2004, 07:51:23 am
There's quite a lot of presidents not born in the state they ran from.
The Vice Presidents are more exotic. One was born in Paris, and another in Ceylon, and one died in Berlin.
What!? You sure you're not thinking of First Ladies or something? Vice Presidents, like Presidents, are required by the constitution to be native born or have immigrated to the US before 1789.
I've also been through the biographies of US vice presidents and I've not found any such reference.
(I have found reference to a -baseless- conspiracy theory that Chester A Arthur was really his older brother, who was born in Canada.)
It's possible that someone could be born in another country and still become President or Vice President, as long as they were a US citizen by birth. If your parents were vacationing overseas or temporarily living overseas, for example, but were still both US citizens.
So that could have been the case with the VPs born in Paris and Ceylon (which ones were they, BTW?)
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October 21, 2004, 12:32:04 pm »
Who was from Lousiana?
Ford was elected from Michighan, so scratch Michigan from the original list.
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Re: What states have never had presidents?
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October 21, 2004, 05:24:58 pm »
Why you don't just create two lists? There are two different questions.
One list being the states in which Presidents were BORN and the other one being from the states FROM where they were elected (and we can see in the second list that some, like Eisenhower, will have more than one state).
And just compare the lists, would be interesting.
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Lewis Trondheim
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October 22, 2004, 03:24:40 am »
Quote from: BRTD on October 21, 2004, 12:32:04 pm
Who was from Lousiana?
read my list, dude.
Taylor, officially.
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October 22, 2004, 05:27:25 am »
Quote from: SCJ Nym90 on October 21, 2004, 12:05:15 pm
So that could have been the case with the VPs born in Paris and Ceylon (which ones were they, BTW?)
Hannibal Hamlin was born in Paris, Maine. Incidentally, within 50 miles you'll find Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Poland, Mexico, Peru, Leeds, Belgrade, Vienna, Naples, and Lisbon.
Walter Mondale was born in Ceylon, Minnesota.
Spiro Agnew died in Berlin, Maryland (other sources say Ocean City, but they are close to each other).
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Lewis Trondheim
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October 22, 2004, 06:34:36 am »
Quote from: jimrtex on October 22, 2004, 05:27:25 am
Quote from: SCJ Nym90 on October 21, 2004, 12:05:15 pm
So that could have been the case with the VPs born in Paris and Ceylon (which ones were they, BTW?)
Hannibal Hamlin was born in Paris, Maine. Incidentally, within 50 miles you'll find Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Poland, Mexico, Peru, Leeds, Belgrade, Vienna, Naples, and Lisbon.
Walter Mondale was born in Ceylon, Minnesota.
Spiro Agnew died in Berlin, Maryland (other sources say Ocean City, but they are close to each other).
Oh, okay...there#s a movie called "Paris,Texas".
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Quote from: True Federalist on April 28, 2013, 01:25:07 am
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Re: What states have never had presidents?
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October 23, 2004, 04:28:20 pm »
Quote from: BRTD on October 21, 2004, 12:32:04 pm
Who was from Lousiana?
Ford was elected from Michighan, so scratch Michigan from the original list.
I assume you mean 'was elected
to Congress
from Michigan' since Ford was never elected President.
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Lewis Trondheim
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Quote from: nclib on October 23, 2004, 04:28:20 pm
Quote from: BRTD on October 21, 2004, 12:32:04 pm
Who was from Lousiana?
Ford was elected from Michighan, so scratch Michigan from the original list.
I assume you mean 'was elected
to Congress
from Michigan' since Ford was never elected President.
Yes, good point...he ran from Michigan in 76 though, and he obviously was registered to vote in Michigan at the time he became vice president, and presumably also at the time he became president.
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Re: What states have never had presidents?
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October 24, 2004, 07:30:16 am »
Quote from: Philip on October 19, 2004, 09:00:14 pm
Wilson was not elected from Virginia, I'm pretty sure
And George Bush isn't going to die in 2009 aged 8... ;P
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Re: What states have never had presidents?
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October 24, 2004, 01:01:18 pm »
Herbert Hoover was elected from California, and not Iowa!
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Re: What states have never had presidents?
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October 30, 2004, 03:11:07 am »
Quote from: J. J. on October 19, 2004, 09:02:13 pm
Wrong and wrong, Eisenhower was elected
from
NY and PA; Wilson
from
NJ.
Eisenhower considered himself to be from Kansas. That's why his library is in Abilene, Kansas. He was born in Texas. The fact that had a residence in PA or NY means nothing. He retained his residence in Kansas.
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Jim Valvano
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Re: What states have never had presidents?
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November 04, 2004, 08:24:34 pm »
OK, here's the official list of states without a president born in them:
AL, AK, AZ, CO (sadly for Democrats), DE, FL, HI, ID, IN, KS, LA, ME, MD, MI, MN, MS, MT, NV, NM, ND, OK, OR, RI, SD, TN, UT, WA, WV, WI, WY, DC
Presidents were born in
AR, CA, CT, GA, IL, IA, KY, MA (4), MO, NE, NH, NJ, NY (4), NC (2, maybe 3), OH (7), PA, SC (maybe), TX (2), VT (2), VA (
Presidents not elected from
AL, AK, AZ, CO, CT, DE, FL, HI, ID, IA, KS (technically), KY, ME, MD, MI (technically), MN, MS, MT, NE, NV, NM, NC, ND, OK, OR, RI, SC, SD, UT, VT, WA, WV, WI, WY, DC
Even though Michigan has had a president (Ford) he was never actually elected so we have to count MI in the 'Presidents not elected from' list
Presidents elected from
AR, CA (3), GA, IL (2), IN, LA, MA (4), MO, NH, NJ (sorry States), NY (
, OH (6), PA (2), TN (3), TX (3), VA (5)
Nixon and Eisenhower are counted twice in this list, Ford is not counted at all
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November 04, 2004, 08:48:10 pm »
Just for curiosities sake!
States without Pres/VP born in them:
AL, AK, AZ, CO, DE, FL, HI, ID, LA, MI, MS, MT, NV, NM, ND, OK, OR, RI, TN, UT, WA, WV, WI, WY
States with Pres/VP born in them:
AR, CA, CT, GA, IL, IN (2), IA (2), KS, KY (5), ME (2), MD, MA (5), MN, MO, NE (2), NH (2), NJ (2), NY (9), NC (3, maybe 4), OH (10), PA (2), SC (2, maybe 1), SD, TX (3), VT (3), VA (
, DC
States without Pres/VP elected from
AK, AZ, CO, CT, DE, FL, HI, ID, MI (technically), MS, MT, NE, NV, NM, NC, ND, OK, OR, RI, SD, UT, VT, WA, WV, WI, DC
Once again we technically can't count Ford
States with Pres/VP elected from
AL, AR, CA (3), GA, IL (4), IN (6), IA, KS, KY (3), LA, ME, MD, MA (6), MN (2), MO, NH, NJ (2), NY (14, technically), OH (6), PA (3), SC, TN (4), TX (4), VA (5), WY
Once again Eisenhower and Nixon are counted twice and Ford isn't counted at all. Also Rockefeller isn't included in New York because he was never elected.
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Bush elected from Texas not CT.
Bush Sr. elected from Texas not CT.
Reagan elected from CA not IL
Ford elected from Michigan not Nebraska?
Gore: if he was actually president, where would he be trying to be elected from? D.C. rather than TN?
George Washington...elected from VA or NY?
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November 15, 2004, 01:37:38 am »
Quote from: demswin2004 on November 14, 2004, 12:36:00 am
Bush elected from Texas not CT.
Bush Sr. elected from Texas not CT.
Reagan elected from CA not IL
Ford elected from Michigan not Nebraska?
Gore: if he was actually president, where would he be trying to be elected from? D.C. rather than TN?
George Washington...elected from VA or NY?
Washington was elected from Virginia.
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Why WY ? Cheney
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I think it's ultimately up to the president himself where he wants to be from. Eisenhower chose Kansas; his library is about a half-hour from me. Whether or not he was born in Texas or ran from New York or Pennsylvania, he claimed Kansas and had his library built here.
We don't have much here; don't try to take away our only President. Bob Dole didn't make it, ya know.
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Just to tell you more about Hoover.
He was born in 1874 in West Branch, Iowa
His father died in 1880
His mother died in 1883
Herbert Hoover moved to Oregon to live with his uncle
Herbert went to Stanford in 1891
So he lived in Oregon from 9 - 17 and considered Oregon the place he grew up. We have a Highway named after Hoover in Newberg where he grew up. Pretty podunk about 30-45 minutes or so from where I live. So maybe an hour outside of Portland. I really wish we had a better president to lay claim to.
I mean you have to admit that a president that is the captain of the ship when the economy loses more jobs that it gains is pretty crappy.
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Quote from: khirkhib on November 19, 2004, 05:02:33 am
Just to tell you more about Hoover.
He was born in 1874 in West Branch, Iowa
His father died in 1880
His mother died in 1883
Herbert Hoover moved to Oregon to live with his uncle
Herbert went to Stanford in 1891
So he lived in Oregon from 9 - 17 and considered Oregon the place he grew up. We have a Highway named after Hoover in Newberg where he grew up. Pretty podunk about 30-45 minutes or so from where I live. So maybe an hour outside of Portland. I really wish we had a better president to lay claim to.
I mean you have to admit that a president that is the captain of the ship when the economy loses more jobs that it gains is pretty crappy.
Hoover was a good man with a big heart. To say otherwise is to be a revisionist. The economy was on the downturn when he took office and he was the sacrificial lamb. FDR actually extended the great depression, tried to pack the supreme court, and passed several unconstitutional measures while destroying the gold standard and pushing the depression for many more years then it should have gone. FDR was a socialist.
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