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segwaystyle2012
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Death of the Religious Right?
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Is there any way 2012 can mark the death of the Religious Right?
Could we see more libertarian elements of the GOP take power?
Will the statists in AR and WV and KY go back to the Democrats?
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The Religious Right will always have an influence in some sphere of American politics. They ruled the Democratic Party during the 20th century before Reagan. There's virtually no chance they just up and disappear.
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They've always been just a paper tiger.
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Quote from: segwaystyle2012 on December 14, 2009, 09:39:41 pm
Is there any way 2012 can mark the death of the Religious Right?
Could we see more libertarian elements of the GOP take power?
Will the statists in AR and WV and KY go back to the Democrats?
I don't see why it would. Political movements never really die, they just mold over into a different form.
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The RR will never die.
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We can only hope, and, if not, they do something that legitimizes our
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Quote from: Scam of God on December 15, 2009, 12:18:15 am
We can only hope, and, if not, they do something that legitimizes our
killing
them.
You're a freak. Why do you advocate actually killing somebody you disagree with?
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Quote from: Governor, Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Judge, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC on December 15, 2009, 12:24:48 am
Quote from: Scam of God on December 15, 2009, 12:18:15 am
We can only hope, and, if not, they do something that legitimizes our
killing
them.
You're a freak.
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Why do you advocate actually killing somebody you disagree with?
Because, if their ultimate designs came to pass, they'd do likewise to me.
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Quote from: Scam of God on December 15, 2009, 12:34:57 am
Quote from: Governor, Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Judge, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC on December 15, 2009, 12:24:48 am
Quote from: Scam of God on December 15, 2009, 12:18:15 am
We can only hope, and, if not, they do something that legitimizes our
killing
them.
You're a freak.
So much the better than a slave, slave.
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Why do you advocate actually killing somebody you disagree with?
Because, if their ultimate designs came to pass, they'd do likewise to me.
Show me one person who has said they want to kill you.
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Religious zealotry and it's influence on politics tends to wax and wane over time. I think/hope that it is currently on the wane (though it may flare a little over 2012 among pseudo-Christians who take pagan calendars a bit to seriously), but rest assured it will return again. And again. and so on.
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The Religious Right isn't going away; it is simply shrinking for now. It isn't winning over young adults, and if anything, many kids of RR families leave the RR at the first opportunity.
The Religious Right has been the most reliable conduit of voters to the GOP in recent years.
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Quote from: segwaystyle2012 on December 14, 2009, 09:39:41 pm
Is there any way 2012 can mark the death of the Religious Right?
In short, no.
Quote from: segwaystyle2012 on December 14, 2009, 09:39:41 pm
Could we see more libertarian elements of the GOP take power?
In a way, I think we may already be seeing that, as much of the teabagger anger against Obama seems to be directed against taxes and spending, rather than traditional religious right targets like gays, feminists, and abortion.
Quote from: segwaystyle2012 on December 14, 2009, 09:39:41 pm
Will the statists in AR and WV and KY go back to the Democrats?
not until Obama is out of office. He's black, you see.
Quote from: AHDuke99 on December 14, 2009, 09:53:12 pm
The Religious Right will always have an influence in some sphere of American politics. They ruled the Democratic Party during the 20th century before Reagan. There's virtually no chance they just up and disappear.
The Religious Right in its current form didn't really exist until the late 1960s, when it sprang up in response to the Counterculture. Even then, it didn't really get going until Roe v. Wade.
Quote from: Libertas on December 14, 2009, 09:53:56 pm
They've always been just a paper tiger.
Not so much that as that they're always fighting a losing battle, even when it looks like they're winning. The trend in our nation's history has, for the most part, been towards more freedom and equality, not less.
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ShadowOfTheWave
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Actually, it is unfortunately correct that the ultimate goal of the RR would be theocratic rule, which would make anyone who does not follow the Bible an infedel. This would almost certainly result in some executions.
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Quote from: Libertas on December 14, 2009, 09:53:56 pm
They've always been just a paper tiger.
Sarcams?
And seriously, no. Religious influence in politics in American tradition and is strong enugh to remain.
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Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on December 15, 2009, 08:19:29 am
Actually, it is unfortunately correct that the ultimate goal of the RR would be theocratic rule, which would make anyone who does not follow the Bible an infedel. This would almost certainly result in some executions.
Uh-huh.
Anyhow, saying that the Religious Right will no longer be part of the Republican party is about as realistic as saying that minorities will no longer be part of the Democratic party.
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If only.....
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Quote from: CJK on December 15, 2009, 09:45:04 am
Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on December 15, 2009, 08:19:29 am
Actually, it is unfortunately correct that the ultimate goal of the RR would be theocratic rule, which would make anyone who does not follow the Bible an infedel. This would almost certainly result in some executions.
Uh-huh.
Anyhow, saying that the Religious Right will no longer be part of the Republican party is about as realistic as saying that minorities will no longer be part of the Democratic party.
Do you know anything about the masses that make up the movement? My family is full of them.
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Quote from: Governor, Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Judge, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC on December 15, 2009, 12:50:15 am
Quote from: Scam of God on December 15, 2009, 12:34:57 am
Quote from: Governor, Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Judge, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC on December 15, 2009, 12:24:48 am
Quote from: Scam of God on December 15, 2009, 12:18:15 am
We can only hope, and, if not, they do something that legitimizes our
killing
them.
You're a freak.
So much the better than a slave, slave.
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Why do you advocate actually killing somebody you disagree with?
Because, if their ultimate designs came to pass, they'd do likewise to me.
Show me one person who has said they want to kill you.
No response, Einzige? If you can't back up your asinine statements, don't make them.
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Now, I don't advocate, say, removing the pro-life plank from the platform. Just some changes on issues like gay rights, War on Drugs, DADT, and "terrorism." The Republicans need to look less like statists and more like freedom-supporting conservatives.
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Thankfully, the Religious Right will never go away. It may seem like they are losing right now, but ultimately their cause will win the war.
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Quote from: Jari Askins for Gov 2010 on December 15, 2009, 07:20:37 pm
Thankfully, the Religious Right will never go away. It may seem like they are losing right now, but ultimately their cause will win the war.
You consider yourself to be part of the 'Religious Right'?
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Quote from: Libertas on December 15, 2009, 07:21:42 pm
Quote from: Jari Askins for Gov 2010 on December 15, 2009, 07:20:37 pm
Thankfully, the Religious Right will never go away. It may seem like they are losing right now, but ultimately their cause will win the war.
You consider yourself to be part of the 'Religious Right'?
No, but I used to be one and I still have a great many friends on that side and I agree with most of their theology, I just don't like the way they try to shove it down people's throats. The ideology will never die, but the way they go about it is wrong and unbiblical. A prime example of someone who I am great friends with and agree with her theology, but disagree of how she's trying to get it across is Rep. Sally Kern. I know her really well and her eldest son used to be my music minister back in the middle 1990s. I went with her church to church camp during the summer of 1996. Her husband is the pastor of that church. I am really good friends with her and we agree on a lot of points, but not on delivery of those points.
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Quote from: Jari Askins for Gov 2010 on December 15, 2009, 07:20:37 pm
Thankfully, the Religious Right will never go away. It may seem like they are losing right now, but ultimately their cause will win the war.
Thankfully, the growing number of non-religious Americans are going to finally save this country from the clutches of theocracy.
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Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on December 15, 2009, 10:49:36 pm
Quote from: Jari Askins for Gov 2010 on December 15, 2009, 07:20:37 pm
Thankfully, the Religious Right will never go away. It may seem like they are losing right now, but ultimately their cause will win the war.
Thankfully, the growing number of non-religious Americans are going to finally save this country from the clutches of theocracy.
The clutches of theocracy? America has never been anything close to a theocracy.
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