Ted Strickland is going to lose, right?

[© tweed]

makes me happy, though I admit to knowing nothing about his actual term thus far.  I still do have the Obama bug, at least in memory.  I had it VERY big in Jan-Feb of '08 last year.  Hillary-from-behind in NH put me in a dreadful mood.  I remember I missed the first four periods of class on Feb 06 2008 because I was up until 2-3am watching.  by the next Tuesday it was clear to those who were not mathematically ignorant that Obama was the odds-on favorite beyond reasonable doubt.

the Hillary campaign bugged me.  the Obama campaign did, faintly, too, but I was part of the target demographic so I was vulnerable.  in retrospect, it is anger-inspiring, the hoax Obama and his trust played on the people that bled for him.

the icons of the Hillary campaign bugged me, so I'll be glad to see Strickland tossed into the trash-bin of political follower history as part of the first ever Default Wave coming in '10, where the resurgent party is not actually liked but the governing party has been thoroughly rejected, so electorate defaults back to (R).  we may find out in the next few decades if the duopoly is so structurally sound that it can withstand/control fundamental disagreements with the general public.

[Ronnie]

No, it's not over yet.  The GE campaign has not even started.

[Lunar]

I think to the thread question, we actually have to see, you know, Kasich emerge as a candidate and not suck first.  We know incumbents are unpopular, will Kasich run a good campaign?  I used to think he was a sacrificial lamb but looking back I sure do look ignorant*.

*My agent advises me to say that while this may be true for most things I post, it is all completely coincidental

[Lunar]

I had it VERY big in Jan-Feb of '08 last year.  Hillary-from-behind in NH put me in a dreadful mood.  I remember I missed the first four periods

your post is funnier like this

edit: MUCH funnier

[Lunar]

makes me happy,  I still do have the Obama bug, at least in memory.  I had it VERY big in Jan-Feb of '08 last year. put me in a dreadful mood.  I remember I missed the first four periods of

 bugged me. faintly, too, but I was  vulnerable.  in retrospect, it is anger-inspiring, the hoax

that bled

bugged me, so I'll be glad to see Wave

OK I'LL STOP please continue

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It depends on what happens in that Kilroy race which is in Columbus and comes from a swing district.  Driehaus is very much done and will not return.  If Kilroy can make more gains than she did in 2008 than perhaps that will carry over to helping out Strickland. If she doesn't and she is defeated along with Zack Space Kasich will carry the day.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Tweed got drunk last night.

[Eraserhead]

Tweed got drunk last night.

He did.

[© tweed]

I again feel a need to step in here, lest my silence proliferate a falsehood.  I did not use alcohol last night.

[Stranger Than Fiction]

It depends on what happens in that Kilroy race which is in Columbus and comes from a swing district.  Driehaus is very much done and will not return.  If Kilroy can make more gains than she did in 2008 than perhaps that will carry over to helping out Strickland. If she doesn't and she is defeated along with Zack Space Kasich will carry the day.

Driehaus is toast?  Really!?

[Eraserhead]

I again feel a need to step in here, lest my silence proliferate a falsehood.  I did not use alcohol last night.

Then what'd you use?

[Lunar]

Am I the only one who finds my PMS jokes hilarious here?!

[Padfoot]

I had it VERY big in Jan-Feb of '08 last year.  Hillary-from-behind in NH put me in a dreadful mood.  I remember I missed the first four periods

your post is funnier like this

edit: MUCH funnier

^^^^^^^^Hilarious, but we digress.

Strickland is far from being automatically thrown out.  At this point I'd give him a 55% chance of getting re-elected.  I think the anti-incumbent mood is strong enough for a decent challenger to topple Strickland but Kasich has yet to really define himself to the broader public.  He's still mostly working the GOP crowd as far as I can tell.  Anytime I see a quote from him it follows the same formula: an attack on Strickland followed by a noncommittal, wishy-washy answer about what he would do in the same situation. 

Here's his "what I stand for" webpage:
   

     

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1. Generic and non-specific GOP talking point.

2. Another generic GOP plank.  Nevermind the fact that Strickland has already done a pretty good job of streamlining government and reducing spending.  I think the part about regulation may be a glancing reference to our outdated construction contracting laws.

3. Requisite promise to reform education needed to win any governor's race in Ohio.

4. Empty political promise which ironically puts more blame on Republicans as prior to 2006 they had been in sole control of state government for over a decade and they still control the Ohio Senate.

[Rococo4]

It depends on what happens in that Kilroy race which is in Columbus and comes from a swing district.  Driehaus is very much done and will not return.  If Kilroy can make more gains than she did in 2008 than perhaps that will carry over to helping out Strickland. If she doesn't and she is defeated along with Zack Space Kasich will carry the day.

id probably say the turnout will be driven the other way around.  a congressional campaign around columbus isnt going to determine wo wins governor.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Well being tied to an unpopular governor isn't good for your base to come out and vote for you and being from swing areas is going swing statewide races no matter what office one should hold.

Strickland has done a poor job in getting jobs rebounded in OH and I think his chances are virtually tied to the economy.  That's why Steve Chabbot should win.

[Badger]

I had it VERY big in Jan-Feb of '08 last year.  Hillary-from-behind in NH put me in a dreadful mood.  I remember I missed the first four periods

your post is funnier like this

edit: MUCH funnier

^^^^^^^^Hilarious, but we digress.

Strickland is far from being automatically thrown out.  At this point I'd give him a 55% chance of getting re-elected.  I think the anti-incumbent mood is strong enough for a decent challenger to topple Strickland but Kasich has yet to really define himself to the broader public.  He's still mostly working the GOP crowd as far as I can tell.  Anytime I see a quote from him it follows the same formula: an attack on Strickland followed by a noncommittal, wishy-washy answer about what he would do in the same situation. 

Here's his "what I stand for" webpage:
   

     

You must be logged in to read this quote.

1. Generic and non-specific GOP talking point.

2. Another generic GOP plank.  Nevermind the fact that Strickland has already done a pretty good job of streamlining government and reducing spending.  I think the part about regulation may be a glancing reference to our outdated construction contracting laws.

3. Requisite promise to reform education needed to win any governor's race in Ohio.

4. Empty political promise which ironically puts more blame on Republicans as prior to 2006 they had been in sole control of state government for over a decade and they still control the Ohio Senate.

#1 is actually far worse than that. He supports abolishing the state income tax--the source of over half the government revenue--and replacing it with---nothing.

Irresponsibility at it's worse. No wonder he was such a proponent of Reaganomics back in the day. Never learned to add and subtract since then I see.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I had it VERY big in Jan-Feb of '08 last year.  Hillary-from-behind in NH put me in a dreadful mood.  I remember I missed the first four periods

your post is funnier like this

edit: MUCH funnier

^^^^^^^^Hilarious, but we digress.

Strickland is far from being automatically thrown out.  At this point I'd give him a 55% chance of getting re-elected.  I think the anti-incumbent mood is strong enough for a decent challenger to topple Strickland but Kasich has yet to really define himself to the broader public.  He's still mostly working the GOP crowd as far as I can tell.  Anytime I see a quote from him it follows the same formula: an attack on Strickland followed by a noncommittal, wishy-washy answer about what he would do in the same situation. 

Here's his "what I stand for" webpage:
   

     

You must be logged in to read this quote.

1. Generic and non-specific GOP talking point.

2. Another generic GOP plank.  Nevermind the fact that Strickland has already done a pretty good job of streamlining government and reducing spending.  I think the part about regulation may be a glancing reference to our outdated construction contracting laws.

3. Requisite promise to reform education needed to win any governor's race in Ohio.

4. Empty political promise which ironically puts more blame on Republicans as prior to 2006 they had been in sole control of state government for over a decade and they still control the Ohio Senate.

#1 is actually far worse than that. He supports abolishing the state income tax--the source of over half the government revenue--and replacing it with---nothing.

Irresponsibility at it's worse. No wonder he was such a proponent of Reaganomics back in the day. Never learned to add and subtract since then I see.

     He seriously wants to just abolish the income tax? No cutting spending or any such thing? I must say, that's pretty chilling.

[The Age Wave]

The race will be close.

[Badger]

I had it VERY big in Jan-Feb of '08 last year.  Hillary-from-behind in NH put me in a dreadful mood.  I remember I missed the first four periods

your post is funnier like this

edit: MUCH funnier

^^^^^^^^Hilarious, but we digress.

Strickland is far from being automatically thrown out.  At this point I'd give him a 55% chance of getting re-elected.  I think the anti-incumbent mood is strong enough for a decent challenger to topple Strickland but Kasich has yet to really define himself to the broader public.  He's still mostly working the GOP crowd as far as I can tell.  Anytime I see a quote from him it follows the same formula: an attack on Strickland followed by a noncommittal, wishy-washy answer about what he would do in the same situation. 

Here's his "what I stand for" webpage:
   

     

You must be logged in to read this quote.

1. Generic and non-specific GOP talking point.

2. Another generic GOP plank.  Nevermind the fact that Strickland has already done a pretty good job of streamlining government and reducing spending.  I think the part about regulation may be a glancing reference to our outdated construction contracting laws.

3. Requisite promise to reform education needed to win any governor's race in Ohio.

4. Empty political promise which ironically puts more blame on Republicans as prior to 2006 they had been in sole control of state government for over a decade and they still control the Ohio Senate.

#1 is actually far worse than that. He supports abolishing the state income tax--the source of over half the government revenue--and replacing it with---nothing.

Irresponsibility at it's worse. No wonder he was such a proponent of Reaganomics back in the day. Never learned to add and subtract since then I see.

     He seriously wants to just abolish the income tax? No cutting spending or any such thing? I must say, that's pretty chilling.

Oh of course he wants to cut "wasteful spending", PiT. That's the standard BS line of every economic conservative. Along with "the added revenue from economic growth will make up for it soon", of course. Even there most economic conservatives at least leave some tax base left to "grow out of debt".

Kasich pushed these exact policies of Reagan's while in the Congress which resulted in vastly expanded deficits and doubling the national debt in 4 years. Ohio has a balanced budget amendment and doesn't have the luxury of playing games with Laffer Curve economic theories.

His proposal, on it's face, would never EVER add up. Kasich is either a bald face liar or a idiot who can't do basic math. Either way he's grossly unqualified to be governor, particularly compared to an actual responsible grownup like Strickland.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I had it VERY big in Jan-Feb of '08 last year.  Hillary-from-behind in NH put me in a dreadful mood.  I remember I missed the first four periods

your post is funnier like this

edit: MUCH funnier

^^^^^^^^Hilarious, but we digress.

Strickland is far from being automatically thrown out.  At this point I'd give him a 55% chance of getting re-elected.  I think the anti-incumbent mood is strong enough for a decent challenger to topple Strickland but Kasich has yet to really define himself to the broader public.  He's still mostly working the GOP crowd as far as I can tell.  Anytime I see a quote from him it follows the same formula: an attack on Strickland followed by a noncommittal, wishy-washy answer about what he would do in the same situation. 

Here's his "what I stand for" webpage:
   

     

You must be logged in to read this quote.

1. Generic and non-specific GOP talking point.

2. Another generic GOP plank.  Nevermind the fact that Strickland has already done a pretty good job of streamlining government and reducing spending.  I think the part about regulation may be a glancing reference to our outdated construction contracting laws.

3. Requisite promise to reform education needed to win any governor's race in Ohio.

4. Empty political promise which ironically puts more blame on Republicans as prior to 2006 they had been in sole control of state government for over a decade and they still control the Ohio Senate.

#1 is actually far worse than that. He supports abolishing the state income tax--the source of over half the government revenue--and replacing it with---nothing.

Irresponsibility at it's worse. No wonder he was such a proponent of Reaganomics back in the day. Never learned to add and subtract since then I see.

     He seriously wants to just abolish the income tax? No cutting spending or any such thing? I must say, that's pretty chilling.

Oh of course he wants to cut "wasteful spending", PiT. That's the standard BS line of every economic conservative. Along with "the added revenue from economic growth will make up for it soon", of course. Even there most economic conservatives at least leave some tax base left to "grow out of debt".

Kasich pushed these exact policies of Reagan's while in the Congress which resulted in vastly expanded deficits and doubling the national debt in 4 years. Ohio has a balanced budget amendment and doesn't have the luxury of playing games with Laffer Curve economic theories.

His proposal, on it's face, would never EVER add up. Kasich is either a bald face liar or a idiot who can't do basic math. Either way he's grossly unqualified to be governor, particularly compared to an actual responsible grownup like Strickland.

     Speaking in platitudes is a favored way to run for office without actually having to have a plan to do so. Now if he said exactly where he's going to cut wasteful spending that would be one thing, but just pushing Reaganomics makes him look good with the Republican base & doesn't require thinking. I notice that Republicans never suggest cutting spending for the military, which is a genuine example of wasteful spending.

[Stranger Than Fiction]

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Very well said.

[Padfoot]

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Very well said.

Cut military spending!  How dare you suggest putting our troops in danger!  Terrorist lover! [/sarcasm]

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Very well said.

Cut military spending!  How dare you suggest putting our troops in danger!  Terrorist lover! [/sarcasm]

It depends on what you want to cut. If its waste in no bid contracts, and spending too much for too little, I am all for that. But I refuse to go along with Barney Frank's proposal to gut the military of 25% of its funding at a time when we are at war.