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« on: December 18, 2009, 06:09:03 am »
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/12/17/howard_dean_wont_vigorously_support_obamas_re-election_bid.html
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2009, 06:11:31 am »
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neither will I, but Dean needs to STFU right now.
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2009, 09:38:29 am »
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neither will I, but Dean needs to STFU right now.

Why?  For ONCE he's being totally honest and non-partisan and most importantly Franzl, he's not waffling in his beliefs......like everyone else is, including Obama.
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2009, 09:41:51 am »
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I don't fault his principles...I have a lot respect for him and his ideas, but I consider the healthcare compromise to be a HELL of a lot better than nothing.

I think he's just being unrealistic and irresponsible.
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2009, 09:45:26 am »
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I don't fault his principles...I have a lot respect for him and his ideas, but I consider the healthcare compromise to be a HELL of a lot better than nothing.

I think he's just being unrealistic and irresponsible.

For once I agree with him.........you can call it Health Care Reform til you're blue in the face.  That doesn't make it so.
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2009, 09:47:21 am »
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I don't fault his principles...I have a lot respect for him and his ideas, but I consider the healthcare compromise to be a HELL of a lot better than nothing.

I think he's just being unrealistic and irresponsible.

For once I agree with him.........you can call it Health Care Reform til you're blue in the face.  That doesn't make it so.

What's wrong with it?

I think it's a pretty good market friendly bill actually.
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2009, 09:51:42 am »
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Over the past few days, i've started to wonder if Dean is firing warning shots of a 3rd party run.
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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2009, 10:26:32 am »
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I don't fault his principles...I have a lot respect for him and his ideas, but I consider the healthcare compromise to be a HELL of a lot better than nothing.

I think he's just being unrealistic and irresponsible.

For once I agree with him.........you can call it Health Care Reform til you're blue in the face.  That doesn't make it so.

What's wrong with it?

I think it's a pretty good market friendly bill actually.

The insurance companies aren't trying to kill it in its present form like they were.......
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2009, 01:11:51 pm »
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I don't fault his principles...I have a lot respect for him and his ideas, but I consider the healthcare compromise to be a HELL of a lot better than nothing.

I think he's just being unrealistic and irresponsible.

For once I agree with him.........you can call it Health Care Reform til you're blue in the face.  That doesn't make it so.

What's wrong with it?

I think it's a pretty good market friendly bill actually.

The insurance companies aren't trying to kill it in its present form like they were.......

I agree with you GG in disappointment in the bill. However it's still markedly better than the status quo, and it's shortcomings have much more to do with Sens. Lincoln, Nelson and (especially) Lieberman than Obama.

Dean does need to chill, IMHO. Criticize the bill for what it doesn't accomplish, yes, but abandoning Obama for Mitt, T-Paw or the Huckster??!? Chill Deanie babe, chill.
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2009, 01:18:19 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2009, 01:20:18 pm »
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Byahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2009, 01:45:41 pm »
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So if Howard Dean ran as a left-wing alternative and Palin ran as a right-wing alternative to Tim Huckaromney... that would get interesting.
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2009, 02:00:56 pm »
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/17/howard-dean-i-wont-suppor_n_395599.html

Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean told the Huffington Post that he was misinterpreted and, subsequently misquoted when discussing his support for President Barack Obama on a morning cable show Thursday. Dean said that despite his call to defeat the health-care bill Obama is championing, he is prepared to campaign for Obama vigorously come 2012.


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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2009, 08:41:21 pm »
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/17/howard-dean-i-wont-suppor_n_395599.html

Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean told the Huffington Post that he was misinterpreted and, subsequently misquoted when discussing his support for President Barack Obama on a morning cable show Thursday. Dean said that despite his call to defeat the health-care bill Obama is championing, he is prepared to campaign for Obama vigorously come 2012.


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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2009, 09:50:44 pm »
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I don't fault his principles...I have a lot respect for him and his ideas, but I consider the healthcare compromise to be a HELL of a lot better than nothing.

I think he's just being unrealistic and irresponsible.

For once I agree with him.........you can call it Health Care Reform til you're blue in the face.  That doesn't make it so.

What's wrong with it?

I think it's a pretty good market friendly bill actually.

The insurance companies aren't trying to kill it in its present form like they were.......

I agree with you GG in disappointment in the bill. However it's still markedly better than the status quo, and it's shortcomings have much more to do with Sens. Lincoln, Nelson and (especially) Lieberman than Obama.

Obama could have put them in line if he wanted to, but instead he chose to attack the left of the party. The guy hasn't even hinted at consequences for opposing the original bill. Bush was able to pass almost his entire agenda(save SS privatization) with 50 to 55 senators, and he did it by putting pressure on them. Can you imagine LBJ just backing down on Medicare or the Civil Rights Act without putting up any effort whatsoever? This is how the healthcare debate has gone:

Obama: I want healthcare reform passed

Conservative Dems: Not unless you make it a complete waste of the paper it's written on and a huge handout to insurance companies

Obama: Ok

Real Dems: This bill needs to be more progressive

Obama: You're irrelevant and should go away, you're blocking my chances of getting something done, even though it's pointless, so I can go on being the celebrity that I am and tout myself as the guy that finally solved the healthcare crisis.

He never wanted a public option and has been nothing but a disingenuous liar. This "reform" is something I could easily see coming out of the Bush administration, just like nearly everything else Obama has done in office. As long as he's in office he's making the Democratic Party look bad and squandering opportunities. I would happily vote for Dean if he was a third party candidate, because frankly...I can't see Romney being any worse and Palin wouldn't win anyway; I'd rather have a clear conscience than be a party to the massive fraud being perpetrated by Obama.
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2009, 09:55:42 pm »
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If Dean runs he has my vote.
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2009, 09:58:44 pm »
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It would be pretty funny to see a former DNC Chairman running on a third party.
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2009, 06:30:57 pm »
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If Dean runs he has my vote.
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2009, 06:48:52 pm »
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Although a Zionist hack, Dean still would have made a better president than Obama or Kerry.
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2009, 06:49:27 pm »
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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2009, 06:51:30 pm »
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2009, 06:55:40 pm »
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2009, 07:02:27 pm »
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Although a Zionist hack, Dean still would have made a better president than Obama or Kerry or Gore or W. Bush or H.W. Bush or Clinton or Reagan or Nixon or Johnson or Truman.
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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2009, 11:55:27 am »
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For me it's too early to say right now. I don't like what he's been doing right now, but hopefully he smartens up and doesn't take the left for granted, otherwise Nader (or another liberal) could scoop up some votes in 2012. He still has to tackle issues such as gay rights, illegal immigration, the Iraq war, etc.
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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2009, 01:10:07 pm »
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LMAO, I love how quickly Rahm and his team contacted Dean and told him to shut it down.
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