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« on: December 20, 2009, 06:57:31 pm »
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I can't see America re-electing a black President.
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2009, 07:00:36 pm »
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I can't see America re-electing a black President.

Three years out from the next presidential election? Great prediction, genius.
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Here’s what Sarah Palin represents: being a fat fucking pig who pins “Country First” buttons on his man titties and chants “U-S-A! U-S-A!” at the top of his lungs while his kids live off credit cards and Saudis buy up all the mortgages in Kansas.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2009, 07:01:43 pm »
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I can't see America re-electing a black President.

Three years out from the next presidential election? Great prediction, genius.

2 years and 10 and a half months.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2009, 07:08:42 pm »
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Time to join MENSA!
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Here’s what Sarah Palin represents: being a fat fucking pig who pins “Country First” buttons on his man titties and chants “U-S-A! U-S-A!” at the top of his lungs while his kids live off credit cards and Saudis buy up all the mortgages in Kansas.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2009, 07:10:22 pm »
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"I can't see America electing a black President." - some guy in 2007
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2009, 07:29:36 pm »
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Even if you take Rasmussen out of the polling at RCP, Obama is at 49.5/44.2 (and include all the hilarious joke polls such as Bloomberg, AP, and NY Times/CBS), an approval rating that not too many predicted he would have at this stage through is presidency.

Question for the conservatives or Republicans on this board: which event would you rather attend in November 2012 if it happens...Sarah Palin's victory party or Obama's concession speech.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2009, 07:31:21 pm »
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Of course Obama's not finished.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2009, 07:34:24 pm »
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Even if you take Rasmussen out of the polling at RCP, Obama is at 49.5/44.2 (and include all the hilarious joke polls such as Bloomberg, AP, and NY Times/CBS), an approval rating that not too many predicted he would have at this stage through is presidency.

Question for the conservatives or Republicans on this board: which event would you rather attend in November 2012 if it happens...Sarah Palin's victory party or Obama's concession speech.

This would negate the positive effects of this.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2009, 07:50:42 pm »
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Go to this approval poll tracker, go to the comparison tab and look at Obama versus Reagan.

Enough said.
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2009, 07:51:26 pm »
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Unfortunately, no. Americans are stupid.
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2009, 09:34:35 pm »
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It really depends on if we are given a decent alternative in 2012. If it's Huckabee or Palin, no, Obama is not finished. If we are given someone who has the right experience to handle this country's problems, he is finished. There is only one person who has these qualifications.
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2009, 09:49:14 pm »
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I'll believe he's finished when I see him lose in 2012. Until then he always has a chance to pull something out. Even if he does win re-election he'll still be a failure, but it doesn't mean he'll lose or is finished 3 years out from the election.
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2009, 09:54:15 pm »
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There is only one person who has these qualifications.

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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2009, 09:59:04 pm »
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"This would negate the positive effects of this."

I want to see non-military government spending reduced dramatically.  Fund our troops and wars and nothing but the bare minimum for anythign else is essentially my motto. Palin would probably adopt that mindset as well.  I don't think she's losing too much sleep over the people who lack healthcare in this country.  Neither am I.

I think the assumption that Obama's approval ratings will improve once the economy improves is wrong because the people making this argument are already claiming that the economy is improving right now just as Obama's approval has continued to drop to a record-low for a President in his first year in office.  So if we accept the argument that the economy is improving right now, then you would have to accept the fact that the economy is not what is driving Obama's approval rating down.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2009, 10:01:14 pm »
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I want to see non-military government spending reduced dramatically.

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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2009, 10:07:17 pm »
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"This would negate the positive effects of this."

I want to see non-military government spending reduced dramatically. 

And what about military spending?

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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2009, 10:11:54 pm »
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"This would negate the positive effects of this."

I want to see non-military government spending reduced dramatically. 

Military Spending should be cut too. It is a large majority of American spending. If I was president, I would oppose any spending cuts into other priorities unless vast Military cuts are made.
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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2009, 10:47:39 pm »
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No cut to military spending.  I'd increase it.  Military spending boosts the economy while protecting us at the same time.  If you don't have healthcare, grab a tissue.

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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2009, 10:56:34 pm »
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And sell ourselves out to the Military-Industrial Complex? Are you insane? That makes an all-too friendly relationship that develops between defense contractors and government forces. Government wants high military spending to keep constituents happy, and the defense industry wants to make a buck. Do you want this nation to be even more dominated by the Defense Industry?
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2009, 10:57:35 pm »
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No cut to military spending.  I'd increase it.  Military spending boosts the economy while protecting us at the same time. 
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2009, 10:59:42 pm »
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The defense industry has been great for our country's economy.  Jobs and safety.
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2009, 11:03:14 pm »
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The defense industry has been great for our country's economy.  Jobs and safety.
No, the "defense" industry has been a source of endless deficits, debt, death, and destruction.
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« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2009, 11:07:05 pm »
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     Military spending should be cut by 80% at bare minimum. I do agree that non-military spending should be cut massively, though.
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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2009, 11:08:30 pm »
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The amount of spending on the military is not justifiable by external threats, and it is burning through out pockets. Make major cuts everywhere, but do not leave Military spending unscathed by the red pen.
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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2009, 11:13:47 pm »
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The amount of spending on the military is not justifiable by external threats, and it is burning through out pockets. Make major cuts everywhere, but do not leave Military spending unscathed by the red pen.

     We spend more on our military than the next fifty countries combined. That strikes me as more than a little off. I mean, it's not like we're likely to suffer an invasion en masse anytime soon.
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