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Vosem
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #50 on:
January 07, 2010, 05:25:25 pm »
Today is February 5, 2008. This day, nicknamed ‘Super Tuesday’ by the media, has a very large amount of primaries and caucuses occurring on both the Republican and Democratic sides. On the Republican side, the frontrunner is the former Mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani, though former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney and current Arizona Senator John McCain are also serious candidates, and there is also a dark-horse in Representative Ron Paul, of Texas. On the Democratic side, the frontrunner is New York Senator and former First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, with former President Jimmy Carter a serious candidate.
These are the Democratic results:
Alabama primary:
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Jimmy Carter 56.39% (27)
• Hillary Clinton 43.61% (25)
Alaska caucus (including delegates awarded during Alaska convention):
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Jimmy Carter 75.15% (19)
• Hillary Clinton 24.85% (7)
American Samoa caucus:
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Hillary Clinton 57.19% (2)
• Jimmy Carter 42.81% (1)
Arizona primary:
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Jimmy Carter 50.37% (31)
• Hillary Clinton 49.63% (25)
Arkansas primary:
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Hillary Clinton 60.05% (22)
• Jimmy Carter 39.95% (13)
California primary:
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Jimmy Carter 51.47% (204)
• Hillary Clinton 48.53% (166)
Colorado caucus:
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Jimmy Carter 56.53% (29)
• Hillary Clinton 43.47% (26)
Connecticut primary:
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Hillary Clinton 53.34% (26)
• Jimmy Carter 46.66% (22)
Delaware primary:
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Hillary Clinton 53.07% (9)
• Jimmy Carter 46.93% (6)
Georgia primary:
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Jimmy Carter 58.43% (51)
• Hillary Clinton 41.57% (36)
Idaho caucus:
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Jimmy Carter 56.03% (11)
• Hillary Clinton 43.97% (7)
Illinois primary:
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Hillary Clinton 54.66% (89)
• Jimmy Carter 45.34% (64)
Kansas caucus:
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Jimmy Carter 53.98% (17)
• Hillary Clinton 46.02% (15)
Massachusetts primary:
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Hillary Clinton 56.01% (55)
• Jimmy Carter 43.99% (38)
Minnesota caucus:
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Jimmy Carter 66.39% (48)
• Hillary Clinton 33.61% (24)
Missouri primary:
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Hillary Clinton 50.68% (36)
• Jimmy Carter 49.32% (36)
New Jersey primary:
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Hillary Clinton 56.07% (59)
• Jimmy Carter 43.93% (48)
New Mexico caucus:
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Hillary Clinton 52.14% (14)
• Jimmy Carter 47.86% (12)
New York primary:
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Hillary Clinton 57.37% (139)
• Jimmy Carter 42.63% (93)
North Dakota caucus:
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Jimmy Carter 61.15% (8 )
• Hillary Clinton 38.85% (5)
Oklahoma primary:
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Jimmy Carter 65.00% (24)
• Hillary Clinton 35.00% (14)
Tennessee primary:
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Jimmy Carter 53.82% (40)
• Hillary Clinton 46.18% (28)
Utah primary:
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Jimmy Carter 56.72% (14)
• Hillary Clinton 43.28% (9)
Current Democratic Delegate Totals:
Hillary Rodham Clinton 916
Jimmy Carter 902
Current Republican Delegate Totals:
John McCain 410
Mitt Romney 391
Rudy Giuliani 390
Ron Paul 14
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #51 on:
January 07, 2010, 05:32:04 pm »
Red - Carter
Blue - Clinton
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Sometimes, reality has a corporatist-traditionalist bias. Sometimes it has a liberal bias.
Quote from: Vosem on January 12, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #52 on:
January 16, 2010, 02:03:52 pm »
The Super Tuesday vote failed to break the deadlock on either side; the Republicans still had a three-way dilemma, and the Democrats still had two serious candidates.
Ron Paul had done very poorly; however, he fervently announced on February 7 that he would stay in the race until the convention.
On February 9, several more contest are held, on both the Democratic and Republican sides.
Louisiana primary:
Jimmy Carter 57.40% (33)
Hillary Clinton 42.60% (23)
Nebraska caucus:
Jimmy Carter 59.33% (16)
Hillary Clinton 40.23% (
Uncommitted 0.44%
Washington caucus:
Jimmy Carter 52.56% (41)
Hillary Clinton 47.44% (37)
U.S. Virgin Islands convention:
Jimmy Carter 50.1% (2)
Hillary Clinton 49.9% (1)
On the Democratic side, as is evidenced, Carter won every contest and grabbed a lead over Clinton (although his victories were weak in Washington and in the U.S. Virgin Islands). On the Republican side, meanwhile…
Louisiana primary[1]:
John McCain 43.18% (35)
Mitt Romney 36.80% (7)
Rudy Giuliani 14.91%
Ron Paul 5.11%
Kansas caucus:
Mitt Romney 33.50% (20)
John McCain 29.58% (16)
Ron Paul 21.18%
Rudy Giuliani 15.74%
Washington caucus[2]:
Rudy Giuliani 29.39% (6)
Mitt Romney 25.45% (5)
John McCain 23.52% (5)
Ron Paul 21.64% (4)
On the Republican side, McCain severely under-performed, unexpectedly losing the Kansas race to Romney and allowing Romney to come within 7 points in Louisiana. Not all was roses for Romney, however, as he unexpectedly lost the Washington caucus to Rudy Giuliani, though in practice the Washington race was a 4-way tie.
Paul seems to be headed toward a renaissance, as he broke double-digits in both Kansas and Washington, a feat which he has achieved only sparingly so far. Still, the top-three Republicans all have over 350 delegates, while Paul is under 20. In order to be viewed as a legitimate contender, Paul needs to win a contest, and that is likely beyond his reach…
[1]Formally, no delegates were assigned at the Louisiana primary, and it was the state convention that did that; however, the delegates won by each candidate during the convention are marked here.
[2]Of the state’s 40 delegates, 20 were awarded by the caucus mentioned above, and the other 20 were awarded by primary, which occurred at a later date.
Current Democratic Delegate Totals:
Jimmy Carter 994
Hillary Rodham Clinton 985
Current Republican Delegate Totals:
John McCain 466
Mitt Romney 423
Rudy Giuliani 396
Ron Paul 18
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Sometimes, reality has a corporatist-traditionalist bias. Sometimes it has a liberal bias.
Quote from: Vosem on January 12, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #53 on:
January 16, 2010, 02:05:40 pm »
Is former President Ford still alive in this TL? I'm just curious.
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #54 on:
January 16, 2010, 02:09:49 pm »
You can adjust the size of images by amending the [
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width=200], it'll adjust the size of the image to 200 pixels wide, keeping the height in proportion.
Of course, you can substitute the "200" in my example for any appropriate number, and you can substitute "height" for "width" if you'd prefer.
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Vosem
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #55 on:
February 18, 2010, 05:43:37 pm »
On February 10, Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle, was demoted to the position of senior advisor, while Maggie Williams took the position of campaign manager. Although this caused a negative news cycle for Clinton, this was tempered by her Maine victory.
Hillary Clinton 59.3% (15)
Jimmy Carter 39.85% (9)
Others 0.86%
Two days later, the Potomac primary occurs, on February 12th, the Potomac primary occurs.
District of Columbia Democratic results:
Jimmy Carter 60.59% (11)
Hillary Clinton 39.05% (4)
Others 0.36%
Virginia Democratic results:
Jimmy Carter 63.66% (54)
Hillary Clinton 36.26% (29)
Others 0.08%
Maryland Democratic results:
Jimmy Carter 60.66% (42)
Hillary Clinton 35.78% (28)
Others 3.56%
District of Columbia Republican results:
Rudy Giuliani 32.53% (16)
Mitt Romney 27.53%
John McCain 23.95%
Ron Paul 7.95%
Maryland Republican results:
Rudy Giuliani 35.01% (37)
John McCain 34.57%
Mitt Romney 24.44%
Ron Paul 5.98%
Virginia Republican results:
Mitt Romney 40.03% (60)
John McCain 39.76%
Rudy Giuliani 19.29%
Ron Paul 1.28%
Ultimately, the predictions for the Potomac primaries ended up being largely incorrect. Although Jimmy Carter had been the favorite in all three contests, no one had anticipated him breaking 60% in all three. On the Republican side, Giuliani had been the favorite in Maryland and D.C., while McCain was expected to carry Virginia. Ultimately, Romney upset McCain in Virginia, while Giuliani only just defeated McCain in Maryland.
On February 14th, Mitt Romney and John McCain debated in Boston, Massachusetts. McCain won the debate, garnering his campaign some needed momentum.
On February 17th, Jimmy Carter met with North Carolina Governor Mike Easley in the North Carolina Governor’s Mansion, sparking rumors of the possibility of a Carter/Easley ticket.
On February 19th, the GOP held the second part of the Washington contest, awarding 20 more delegates, and held a contest in Wisconsin. The Democrats held primaries/caucuses in Wisconsin and Hawaii.
Washington Republican results:
Rudy Giuliani 36.39% (7)
John McCain 22.52% (5)
Ron Paul 21.64% (4)
Mitt Romney 20.45% (4)
Wisconsin Republican results:
John McCain 36.95% (15)
Rudy Giuliani 27.37% (11)
Mitt Romney 22.37% (9)
Ron Paul 13.31% (5)
On the Republican side, McCain makes a comeback, winning a respectable second place in Washington and winning a surprise victory in Wisconsin. Romney is now the candidate who is suffering, as he managed to score fourth place, behind Ron Paul, in Washington. Paul himself is doing the best he has all year, as he broke double-digits twice – breaking 20% in Washington – and won 9 delegates. The media sputters that he will only be a serious candidate with a primary victory – but, considering all the attention, he is becoming a serious candidate. And what of the Democrats?
Wisconsin Democratic results:
Jimmy Carter 58.08% (42)
Hillary Clinton 41.92% (32)
Hawaii Democratic results:
Hillary Clinton 53.58% (11)
Jimmy Carter 46.42% (9)
Hillary’s upset Hawaii win is twisted by the media as a Clinton comeback, as they virtually ignore Carter’s Wisconsin victory. In terms of the delegate count, Clinton’s Hawaii victory is hollow and is more than canceled out with Carter’s margin in Wisconsin.
Soon afterward, the Republicans held American Samoa, Northern Mariana Islands, and Puerto Rico contests. American Samoa voted Romney, the Northern Mariana Islands voted McCain, but Puerto Rico voted Giuliani.
On February 26th, Ralph Nader announces his withdrawal from the Green Party presidential nomination, and announces his candidacy as an independent, with Matt Gonzalez, 2003 Green candidate for Mayor of San Francisco, who received 47% of the vote, as his running mate. This leaves the Green party nomination as a contest between former congresswoman Cynthia McKinney and perennial Californian candidate Kent Mesplay.
The same day former Democratic candidate Chris Dodd, who had formerly endorsed Hillary Clinton, chose to support Jimmy Carter. Carter has a 95-delegate lead, and many in the Democratic Party are pushing for Clinton to drop out.
Meanwhile, all six candidates are now campaigning in the Big Four primaries, the same on both sides, to occur on March 4th: Ohio, Vermont, Rhode Island, and Texas. Carter hopes a sweep can push Clinton out, while on the GOP side, there seems to be little hope of breaking the deadlock.
Current Democratic Delegate Totals:
Hillary Rodham Clinton 1,085
Jimmy Carter 1,180
Current Republican Delegate Totals:
Mitt Romney 505
John McCain 495
Rudy Giuliani 490
Ron Paul 27
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Quote from: pbrower2a on March 31, 2013, 11:56:27 am
Sometimes, reality has a corporatist-traditionalist bias. Sometimes it has a liberal bias.
Quote from: Vosem on January 12, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
Economic score: +4.84
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At this rate, I'll lean left economically within a year or so
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #56 on:
February 18, 2010, 05:52:51 pm »
Nice to see it back
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Vosem
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #57 on:
February 21, 2010, 08:06:09 am »
These are the results of the so-called Big Four primaries occurring on March 4th:
Ohio Democratic primary:
Hillary Clinton 53.49% (74)
Jimmy Carter 44.84% (67)[/b]
Texas Democratic primary and caucus:
Hillary Clinton 50.87% (65)
Jimmy Carter 47.39% (61)
Other 1.74%
Hillary Clinton 56.18% (38)
Jimmy Carter 43.73% (29)
Other 0.09%
Rhode Island Democratic primary:
Hillary Clinton 58.44% (13)
Jimmy Carter 40.40% (
Other 1.17%
Vermont Democratic primary:
Hillary Clinton 59.31% (9)
Jimmy Carter 38.59% (6)
Other 2.10%
Texas Republican primary:
John McCain 51.21% (80)
Mitt Romney 19.01% (
Rudy Giuliani 19.01% (
Ron Paul 4.87%
Rhode Island Republican primary:
Rudy Giuliani 38.74% (13)
Mitt Romney 37.66% (4)
John McCain 14.37%
Ron Paul 6.58%
Other 2.63%
Vermont Republican primary:
Rudy Giuliani 41.32% (17)
Mitt Romney 34.30%
John McCain 17.58%
Ron Paul 6.61%
Other 0.19%
Ohio:
Mitt Romney 39.92% (85)
John McCain 30.60%
Rudy Giuliani 24.93%
Ron Paul 4.65%
So, what has happened? On the Democratic side, just as Carter was pulling away, Clinton won all four, and brought his momentum to an end. Carter does remain the favorite, however. On the Republican side, McCain won Texas to a Romney win in Ohio, while Giuliani won both Rhode Island and Vermont. It looks like Romney is the GOP frontrunner, with McCain in second, Giuliani in third, and Paul far behind. Still, all the GOP candidates – and all the Democratic candidates, for that matter – seem unlikely to drop out. The Democrats do have time to select a winner – but, at this point, many pundits and analysts are saying a brokered GOP convention is more likely than a unified one. This would be the first convention since the 1984 Democratic one where there was no presumptive nominee, and the first since the 1976 GOP one where the winner was not obvious.
Current Democratic Delegate Totals:
Hillary Rodham Clinton 1,284
Jimmy Carter 1,351
Current Republican Delegate Totals:
John McCain 575
Mitt Romney 602
Rudy Giuliani 528
Ron Paul 27
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Sometimes, reality has a corporatist-traditionalist bias. Sometimes it has a liberal bias.
Quote from: Vosem on January 12, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
Economic score: +4.84
Social score: -6.52
At this rate, I'll lean left economically within a year or so
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #58 on:
February 21, 2010, 08:16:39 am »
Red - Carter
Blue - Clinton
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Quote from: pbrower2a on March 31, 2013, 11:56:27 am
Sometimes, reality has a corporatist-traditionalist bias. Sometimes it has a liberal bias.
Quote from: Vosem on January 12, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
Economic score: +4.84
Social score: -6.52
At this rate, I'll lean left economically within a year or so
Vosem
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #59 on:
February 21, 2010, 08:24:40 am »
Red - Giuliani
Blue - McCain
Green - Romney
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Quote from: pbrower2a on March 31, 2013, 11:56:27 am
Sometimes, reality has a corporatist-traditionalist bias. Sometimes it has a liberal bias.
Quote from: Vosem on January 12, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
Economic score: +4.84
Social score: -6.52
At this rate, I'll lean left economically within a year or so
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #60 on:
February 21, 2010, 11:31:46 am »
Go Carter, just for the fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Vosem
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #61 on:
February 26, 2010, 04:26:37 pm »
On March 5th, President George W. Bush announced his endorsement of John McCain for President in 2008.
On March 8th, Democrats hold a contest in Wyoming, which is won overwhelmingly by Jimmy Carter with 61% of the vote. Hillary Clinton achieved 38% and other got 1%. Carter received 7 delegates, and Clinton 5. On the Republican side, John McCain won the Guam caucus with 40% of the vote – and 2 delegates – while Romney and Giuliani each gained 30% of the vote, and 1 delegate. However, both of these victories were little-publicized.
On March 11th, both parties held contests in Mississippi.
Democratic results:
Jimmy Carter 61.15% (20)
Hillary Rodham Clinton 36.67% (13)
Other 2.18%
Republican results:
John McCain 44.46% (36)
Rudy Giuliani 27.40%
Mitt Romney 18.04%
Ron Paul 10.10%
Other 1.59%
Current Democratic Delegate Totals:
Hillary Rodham Clinton 1,289
Jimmy Carter 1,358
Current Republican Delegate Totals:
John McCain 613
Mitt Romney 603
Rudy Giuliani 529
Ron Paul 27
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Sometimes, reality has a corporatist-traditionalist bias. Sometimes it has a liberal bias.
Quote from: Vosem on January 12, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
Economic score: +4.84
Social score: -6.52
At this rate, I'll lean left economically within a year or so
Vosem
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #62 on:
May 06, 2010, 03:44:16 pm »
I'm considering starting this back up again (I'd keep writing
A Royal America
too; both at the same time). What do y'all think?
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Quote from: pbrower2a on March 31, 2013, 11:56:27 am
Sometimes, reality has a corporatist-traditionalist bias. Sometimes it has a liberal bias.
Quote from: Vosem on January 12, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
Economic score: +4.84
Social score: -6.52
At this rate, I'll lean left economically within a year or so
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #63 on:
May 06, 2010, 03:45:06 pm »
Quote from: Vosem on May 06, 2010, 03:44:16 pm
I'm considering starting this back up again (I'd keep writing
A Royal America
too; both at the same time). What do y'all think?
YES I love this. I like the photo of Carter BTW
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #64 on:
May 06, 2010, 03:48:12 pm »
Quote from: Vosem on May 06, 2010, 03:44:16 pm
I'm considering starting this back up again (I'd keep writing
A Royal America
too; both at the same time). What do y'all think?
You already said what was going to happen in this timeline when you initially gave it up. THat being said, go for it! This was a great TL!
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #65 on:
May 27, 2010, 04:59:29 pm »
On March 12, Hillary Clinton announced that she was hiring former Representative Geraldine Ferraro as a senior campaign advisor. However, after some controversial comments stated just two days later (on March 14) about Senator Chuck Schumer, she is made to resign.
On March 18, John McCain leaves the U.S. for a highly-publicized trip to Europe and the Middle East. He returns on April 5.
The week of March 18 – March 25, Hillary Clinton launches a tour of Pennsylvania, starting in Pittsburgh and ending in Pennsylvania. She is accompanied by state Lieutenant Governor Catherine Knoll and Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl.
On March 21, New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, a former presidential candidate himself, endorses Jimmy Carter.
On March 25, Clinton triumphantly ends her tour in Philadelphia, giving the famous A More Perfect Union speech, in which she describes the goals of a Clinton Administration.
The next day, March 26, former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel announced his candidacy for the presidential nomination of the Libertarian Party.
On April 3, Ron Paul, Rudy Giuliani, and Mitt Romney debate at the University of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Polls after the debate seem to suggest Giuliani was the winner. McCain was not present.
John McCain returns to the United States on April 5, and he is triumphantly endorsed by Nancy Reagan.
On April 6, at a campaign event where he endorses Hillary Clinton, Democratic congressman John Murtha describes “small towns in Pennsylvania” as “bitter.” The event makes headlines, but as Clinton was not present, it does not affect her poll showings.
On April 10, 2004 vice-presidential Constitution Party nominee Chuck Baldwin announces his candidacy for that party’s nomination for President.
On April 13, Hillary Clinton and Jimmy Carter debate in Grantham, Pennsylvania. Clinton is considered the winner.
On April 15, a poll of ‘Constitution Party members nationwide’ shows Alan Keyes 2% ahead of the other major candidate, Chuck Baldwin.
On April 16, Clinton and Carter debate in Philadelphia. Carter is considered the winner.
Finally, on April 22, the Pennsylvania primary is held:
Democratic Results:
Hillary Clinton 54.59% (85)
Jimmy Carter 45.41% (73)
Republican Results:
Rudy Giuliani 33.86% (74)
John McCain 27.65%
Mitt Romney 22.64%
Ron Paul 15.85%
What can be said of the results? On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton won, but by a smaller than expected margin. Carter retains an imposing 57-delegate lead…
On the Republican side, John McCain rather suddenly and unexpectedly lost Pennsylvania to Rudy Giuliani, and by a 6% margin. McCain retains a very, very small lead in the delegate count, with Romney and Giuliani literally tied for second place…
Current Democratic Delegate Totals:
Jimmy Carter 1,431
Hillary Rodham Clinton 1,374
Current Republican Delegate Totals:
John McCain 613
Mitt Romney 603
Rudy Giuliani 603
Ron Paul 27
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Sometimes, reality has a corporatist-traditionalist bias. Sometimes it has a liberal bias.
Quote from: Vosem on January 12, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
Economic score: +4.84
Social score: -6.52
At this rate, I'll lean left economically within a year or so
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #66 on:
May 27, 2010, 05:01:56 pm »
Red - Carter
Blue - Clinton
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Sometimes, reality has a corporatist-traditionalist bias. Sometimes it has a liberal bias.
Quote from: Vosem on January 12, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
Economic score: +4.84
Social score: -6.52
At this rate, I'll lean left economically within a year or so
Vosem
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #67 on:
May 27, 2010, 05:03:27 pm »
Red - Giuliani
Blue - McCain
Green - Romney
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Quote from: pbrower2a on March 31, 2013, 11:56:27 am
Sometimes, reality has a corporatist-traditionalist bias. Sometimes it has a liberal bias.
Quote from: Vosem on January 12, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
Economic score: +4.84
Social score: -6.52
At this rate, I'll lean left economically within a year or so
Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #68 on:
May 27, 2010, 05:09:08 pm »
Glad to see this is back up again, Vosem!
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #69 on:
May 28, 2010, 09:34:32 am »
LOL, Carter in 2008...
BTW, when I saw the opening post I thought it was one of Yougo's timelines : and it coud have been !
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #70 on:
May 28, 2010, 09:11:19 pm »
Ya he would be 84.
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #71 on:
June 06, 2010, 03:45:34 pm »
A spoiler to jolt this back to life: in ATL Alabama, Dale Peterson wins, crushing those who don't give a rrrrrip about Alabama!
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Quote from: pbrower2a on March 31, 2013, 11:56:27 am
Sometimes, reality has a corporatist-traditionalist bias. Sometimes it has a liberal bias.
Quote from: Vosem on January 12, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
Economic score: +4.84
Social score: -6.52
At this rate, I'll lean left economically within a year or so
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Reply #72 on:
June 06, 2010, 03:52:24 pm »
Quote from: Vosem on June 06, 2010, 03:45:34 pm
A spoiler to jolt this back to life: in ATL Alabama, Dale Peterson wins, crushing those who don't give a rrrrrip about Alabama!
That's a good thing. The other two are dummies who don't deserve to win. They're thugs and thieves. I still can't believe Peterson lost.
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Re: Carter in '08!
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Between April 24 and April 27, the Constitution Party National Convention is held in Kansas City. For the first two days, there is a deadlock between Chuck Baldwin and Alan Keyes, but on the 26th, Keyes is nominated. On the 27th, Keyes announced Scott Bradley as his running mate.
On May 3, the Guam Democratic convention is held. Although Clinton defeats Carter, the victory is so narrow that both candidates gain 2 delegates each.
Several days later, on May 6, the Indiana and North Carolina primaries are held, for both parties.
Democratic Results:
North Carolina:
Jimmy Carter 56.14% (67)
Hillary Clinton 41.61% (48)
Indiana:
Jimmy Carter 50.56% (38)
Hillary Clinton 49.44% (34)
The Democratic results were extremely disappointing to Clinton, following a too-large Carter victory in North Carolina and an upset loss in Indiana.
Republican Results:
North Carolina:
John McCain 48.07% (51)
Mitt Romney 31.61% (
Rudy Giuliani 16.70% (5)
Ron Paul 3.62% (2)
Indiana:
Mitt Romney 37.92% (27)
John McCain 34.60%
Rudy Giuliani 22.93%
Ron Paul 4.65%
On the Republican side, McCain wins a larger-than-expected landslide in North Carolina, but is upset by Romney in Indiana. Giuliani's momentum from the Pennsylvania victory is stalled by two third-place finishes, and Paul twice fails to break 5% (although unusual rules result in him garnering 2 delegates from North Carolina).
On May 12, Bob Barr ends speculation of a run for President by announcing a run for Georgia's Senate seat as an independent.
The next day, May 13, the West Virginia Democratic primary and the Nebraska Republican primary are held.
Democratic Results:
Hillary Clinton 56.93% (16)
Jimmy Carter 42.77% (12)
Other 0.30%
Republican Results:
Mitt Romney 36.93%
John McCain 30.67%
Rudy Giuliani 25.33%
Ron Paul 8.07%
The non-binding Nebraska primary received little media attention, as no delegates were chosen or would be until July.
West Virginia was seen as a repeat of Pennsylvania; what should be an easy Clinton victory becoming closer than expected. Unlike the Republicans, where all 3 candidates were still seen as having at least a chance of victory, Clinton was increasingly seen as prolonging the Democratic process unnecessarily.
On May 14, in the aftermath of the West Virginia primary, 2004 vice-presidential nominee John Edwards endorsed Jimmy Carter.
On May 20, both parties hold primaries in Oregon and Kentucky.
Republican Results:
Oregon:
Rudy Giuliani 34.80% (7)
Mitt Romney 30.86% (6)
John McCain 28.93% (6)
Ron Paul 5.41% (1)
Kentucky:
John McCain 34.37% (20)
Mitt Romney 31.84% (15)
Rudy Giuliani 23.62% (6)
Ron Paul 10.17% (1)
There were no particular surprises on the Republican side; as expected, Giuliani triumphed in Oregon, narrowly defeating Romney, whereas McCain won Kentucky (although Romney came very close to an upset). An energetic Paul campaign in Kentucky, headed by his son, Randall, broke 10% of the vote and nabbed a single delegate, but failed to top one of the the Big Three. In a situation reminiscent of North Carolina, unusual rules also get Paul a single Oregonian delegate.
Democratic Results:
Oregon:
Jimmy Carter 58.52% (31)
Hillary Clinton 40.50% (21)
Kentucky:
Jimmy Carter 54.53% (28)
Hillary Clinton 45.48% (23)
The two fairly significant Carter victories - an expected one in Oregon, but also an out-of-nowhere 10-point defeat in Kentucky - result in the inevitable happening on the next day, May 21, 2008; as the junior Senator from New York, Hillary Rodham Clinton, drops out of the contest for the Democratic nomination and endorses Jimmy Carter, who would win all subsequent contests.
JIMMY CARTER
The Democratic Nominee for President of the United States of America
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Re: Carter in '08!
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June 27, 2011, 09:58:09 am »
Wow, this makes me laugh and smile at the same time. Keep it up Vosem.
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