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Question:
Who would you vote for in the Austrian Presidential Election ?
Heinz Fischer (Incumbent-SPÖ/IND)
41 (56.9%)
Barbara Rosenkranz (FPÖ)
25 (34.7%)
Other candidate (please post)
2 (2.8%)
Invalid
4 (5.6%)
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Topic: The 2012 Austrian Election Interlude: The rise of Frank Stronach and more ... (Read 78263 times)
Tender Branson
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Reply #825 on:
April 15, 2012, 04:55:16 am »
Strache at the final FPÖ campaign event in Innsbruck:
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Strache verteidigt rassistischen Slogan und will "anständige Leute"
Auch Strache konnte sich einen Seitenhieb auf Oppitz-Plörer und ihre zum Teil in türkischer Sprache affichierte Wahlwerbung nicht verhalten. "Ich weiß nicht, ob ich in Izmir oder in Innsbruck bin", meinte er und erntete Applaus. Er verteidigte erneut die mit der Aufschrift "Heimatliebe statt Marokkaner-Diebe" heftig kritisierten und schließlich abmontierten Wahlplakate der Innsbrucker FPÖ. "Niemand von uns ist ein Ausländerfeind, wir wollen anständige Leute", erklärte er.
"Deutsche Landessprache beherrschen"
Jeder anständige Zuwanderer habe früher oder später das Recht, die österreichische Staatsbürgerschaft zu bekommen. Dafür müsse er aber die deutsche Landessprache beherrschen, einen Arbeitsplatz haben und fleißig sein.
Do you see the irony ?
Hint: Take a look at the poster behind Strache ...
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Tender Branson
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April 15, 2012, 08:34:31 am »
Hehe:
90 minutes to go. Then we can see how well the Pirates did with their 3000€ budget ...
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Tender Branson
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Re: 2010 Presidential and State Elections in Austria and onwards ...
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Reply #827 on:
April 15, 2012, 10:41:01 am »
20 minutes until the first results. I'm hoping for an epic fail result for the FPÖ (well, the FPÖ has always been epic fail in Innsbruck, so the question is only if they get more or less than 10%).
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Tender Branson
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April 15, 2012, 10:46:50 am »
4 of 152 Sprengel already counted (2,63% of the votes):
Platzgummer (ÖVP) leads Oppitz-Plörer (FI) by 1 vote for Mayor ...
http://wahlen.innsbruck.gv.at
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Tender Branson
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April 15, 2012, 10:49:12 am »
It looks that out of the first 4 precincts, 3 are retirement home precincts.
Thats why the Greens suck right now ...
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Tender Branson
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Reply #830 on:
April 15, 2012, 10:50:42 am »
Also, turnout seems to be really crappy, in the lower 40s.
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Tender Branson
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April 15, 2012, 10:59:41 am »
2 precincts are in a Mormon Church ...
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Tender Branson
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Reply #832 on:
April 15, 2012, 12:09:49 pm »
About 2/3 of the vote in now:
ÖVP and FI are still fighting for 1st place.
The Greens are now at their 2006 level, which would again be their best result in Innsbruck.
The 14.6% for the SPÖ would not be their worst result, they got 11.7% in 2000.
The FPÖ continues to suck (8% is way below the 13% they got in 1989 and 1994).
The Pirates will get 1 seat in the city council for the first time with a campaign budget of only 3000€.
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Tender Branson
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Re: 2010 Presidential and State Elections in Austria and onwards ...
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Reply #833 on:
April 15, 2012, 12:51:58 pm »
100% counted:
Seats:
Change compared with 2006:
Mayoral direct election:
http://wahlen.innsbruck.gv.at
Oppitz-Plörer (FI) and Platzgummer (ÖVP) will advance to a run-off in 2 weeks.
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Reply #834 on:
April 15, 2012, 01:44:44 pm »
That Pirate poster is great to learn colors in German.
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Tender Branson
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April 16, 2012, 02:56:37 am »
Quote from: Tender Branson on April 15, 2012, 10:50:42 am
Also, turnout seems to be really crappy, in the lower 40s.
Final results (incl. postal votes) actually show turnout up to 52.3%, which is still the worst figure ever in Innsbruck and down by 5.5% compared with the 2006 elections.
Final result (incl. postal votes):
21.9% [+7.3] ÖVP (9 seats)
21.0% [-5.8] FI (9 seats)
19.1% [+0.6] Greens (8 seats)
14.5% [-5.2] SPÖ (6 seats)
7.9% [-1.5] LRF (3 seats)
7.7% [+2.7] FPÖ (3 seats)
3.8% [+3.8] Pirates (1 seat)
2.7% [-0.2] TSB (1 seat)
1.4% [+0.5] KPÖ
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Tender Branson
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Reply #836 on:
April 16, 2012, 03:32:13 am »
Here you can see that the FI and the ÖVP and also the TSB is in reality just "the ÖVP". Christine Oppitz-Plörer (FI) and Christoph Platzgummer (ÖVP) - which will head to the run-off - even held a joint post-election event together:
So, the 3 lists of the ÖVP actually got 46% yesterday.
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Tender Branson
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Reply #837 on:
April 23, 2012, 09:47:54 am »
New "Heute" ("Today") newspaper poll:
27% FPÖ
27% SPÖ
23% ÖVP
13% Greens
3% BZÖ
7% Others (Pirates, KPÖ, CPÖ)
http://www.heute.at/news/politik/art23660,696631
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Tender Branson
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April 23, 2012, 09:54:58 am »
New Gallup poll shows the FPÖ pulling ahead again after months of being tied or second:
The news release says that the "Pirates" have 5% of the 6% who voted for "other parties".
http://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/Strache-ist-schon-Erster/63650869
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A new IMAS poll for the Kronen Zeitung shows a weak FPÖ:
This poll looks like a joke poll and total outlier. 7% for the BZÖ ? LOL.
http://www.krone.at/Oesterreich/Umfrage-Fiasko_fuer_die_FPOe_-_Platz_2_ist_weit_entfernt-Lebenszeichen_der_VP-Story-318953
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Reply #839 on:
April 24, 2012, 07:02:16 pm »
If the Pirates let the FPO become the largest party, will Pirate voters realise how innane their opinion is?
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April 24, 2012, 08:36:20 pm »
Quote from: Le changement! C'est maintenant! on April 24, 2012, 07:02:16 pm
If the Pirates let the FPO become the largest party, will Pirate voters realise how innane their opinion is?
I rather think most Pirate voters couldn't care less which party comes out on top.
If anything they might prefer FPÖ on top, after all the far-right and the pirates share the same demographic base, young working-class males who dislike/distrust the establishment.
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Tender Branson
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Reply #841 on:
April 25, 2012, 12:47:31 am »
Quote from: Swedish Cheese on April 24, 2012, 08:36:20 pm
Quote from: Le changement! C'est maintenant! on April 24, 2012, 07:02:16 pm
If the Pirates let the FPO become the largest party, will Pirate voters realise how innane their opinion is?
I rather think most Pirate voters couldn't care less which party comes out on top.
If anything they might prefer FPÖ on top, after all the far-right and the pirates share the same demographic base, young working-class males who dislike/distrust the establishment.
I don't think you can say that the Pirates will be responsible for the FPÖ winning.
A previous poll has shown that SPÖ, FPÖ and Greens would all lose about 3% each if the Pirates and a Frank Stronach party would run next year.
Because the Pirates are mostly a protest party, I even think that they would hurt the FPÖ the most during the election campaign.
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Tender Branson
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Reply #842 on:
April 28, 2012, 12:50:27 pm »
New Gallup poll for Ö24 shows that the Pirates now have officially Parliamentary support:
27% (-1) FPÖ
27% (nc) SPÖ
22% (nc) ÖVP
13% (-1) Greens
6% (+1) Pirates
3% (nc) BZÖ
2% (+1) Others
Majority for FPÖVP and SPÖVP and FPÖ-SPÖ (totally unlikely though).
No majority for SPÖ-Greens-Pirates.
http://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/Piraten-Partei-schon-bei-sechs-Prozent-laut-OeSTERREICH-Umfrage/64347638
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April 28, 2012, 01:06:52 pm »
PS:
Ö24 notes that the Pirate voters are made up mostly by voters who have not voted in 2008 (they account for about 50% of all Pirates) and former FPÖ, SPÖ, Green and BZÖ voters with about equal support. Only the ÖVP doesn't seem to lose voters to the Pirates, but the ÖVP is badly damaged anyway.
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Reply #844 on:
April 28, 2012, 01:11:20 pm »
Pirates are cute, but they're pretty useless, so this Germanic Pirate-mania is becoming a bit stupid.
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April 28, 2012, 01:24:57 pm »
Quote from: Sharif Hashemite on April 28, 2012, 01:11:20 pm
Pirates are cute, but they're pretty useless, so this Germanic Pirate-mania is becoming a bit stupid.
Maybe the Pirate-mania will die off in the next year anyway and if not, they still have to collect 2600 signatures somehow to be on the ballot.
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Tender Branson
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Reply #846 on:
April 29, 2012, 05:39:40 am »
Recent comments on FPÖ-leader Strache's Facebook site regarding a 15-year old Turkish arsonist who burned down the Catholic Dome in Wr. Neustadt incl. 1 million € of damage:
http://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/niederoesterreich/Wiener-Neustadt-Feuerteufel-will-Dom-reparieren/63865026
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Quote from: Tender Branson on April 15, 2012, 12:51:58 pm
http://wahlen.innsbruck.gv.at
Oppitz-Plörer (FI) and Platzgummer (ÖVP) will advance to a run-off in 2 weeks.
With 100% counted once again, Christine Oppitz-Plörer wins the run-off with 56% of the vote and remains the Mayor of Innsbruck.
Before the run-off, she announced that she would seek a coalition between FI, Greens and either SPÖ or ÖVP, while ruling out any coalition that includes the FPÖ.
Platzgummer on the other hand said that he would also include the FPÖ in a coaliton.
Therefore, I'm quite happy with the result.
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Reply #848 on:
May 05, 2012, 08:06:28 am »
New "Profil" poll by Karmasin Motivforschung:
29% SPÖ
26% FPÖ
24% ÖVP
12% Greens
2% BZÖ
7% Others (Pirates, CPÖ, KPÖ, LIF (?), planned Stronach-party etc.)
You can clearly see that the FPÖ, Greens and BZÖ all lose votes to the Pirates, while the SPÖ and ÖVP remain mostly where they were.
Direct vote for Chancellor:
21% Faymann (SPÖ)
16% Spindelegger (ÖVP)
14% Strache (FPÖ)
6% Glawischnig (Greens)
http://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/OTS_20120505_OTS0003/profil-umfrage-volkspartei-legt-zu-freiheitliche-verlieren
Austrians also want the border checks back, according to the same poll:
70% favor the re-introduction of border and passport checks, like Sarkozy wants it
25% are opposed
http://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/OTS_20120505_OTS0008/profil-umfrage-grosse-mehrheit-fuer-wiedereinfuehrung-der-passkontrollen
Austrians are also against the SPÖ-proposal to limit the average working time of Austrians to 38,5 hours a week. Currently, the average Austrian works about 43 hours each week.
50% are opposed
41% support the proposal
http://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/OTS_20120505_OTS0005/profil-umfrage-haelfte-der-oesterreicher-glaubt-nicht-an-erfolg-des-transparenzpakets
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May 12, 2012, 11:49:50 pm »
FPÖ is now clearly first in the new Gallup poll for Ö24:
Pirates now at 7%, which is their highest share ever.
FPÖ+Pirates+BZÖ are at 37% - which would be a new record for protest partys.
SPÖVP government (47%) is now without a majority (50% for FPÖ/Greens/Pirates/BZÖ).
It also looks like the Pirates are mostly gaining from the SPÖ, ÖVP, Greens and BZÖ - but not the FPÖ.
Approval Ratings for Austrian Party leaders:
http://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/FP-voran-Faymann-legt-zu/65833391
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