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« on: January 01, 2010, 04:32:10 pm »
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You can only choose from both houses of Congress and any governor of any U.S. state.

When I said "Economically Liberal" I mean someone who supports an economic policy that favors ordinary Americans at the expense of the rich. I guess Chris Smith (Representative from NJ-04) would be a viable option. It's sad that there are very few economically liberal Republicans left after Reagan and Bush Sr. purged most of them from the party or forced them to change their economic positions and embrace "trickle-down economics." Back before Reagan there were many economically liberal Republicans: Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Rockefeller, and even Bush Sr. (before he flip-flopped his positions) come to mind. I'm sure there were much more than that, though.
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2010, 04:40:38 pm »
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Maybe Cao? By American definition at least.

Otherwise Coburn.
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2010, 04:57:03 pm »
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Maybe Cao? By American definition at least.

Otherwise Coburn.

That's sad when you can link Coburn and the word liberal in any sense.
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2010, 05:37:00 pm »
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That's sad when you can link Coburn and the word liberal in any sense.

Yeah it is actually a crime to connect him in any way with liberalism, but he would meet my definition of economic liberalism.
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2010, 05:45:13 pm »
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2010, 06:09:07 pm »
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That's sad when you can link Coburn and the word liberal in any sense.

Yeah it is actually a crime to connect him in any way with liberalism, but he would meet my definition of economic liberalism.

I wonder if he would be more or less economically liberal than me?
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2010, 06:21:11 pm »
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That's sad when you can link Coburn and the word liberal in any sense.

Yeah it is actually a crime to connect him in any way with liberalism, but he would meet my definition of economic liberalism.

I wonder if he would be more or less economically liberal than me?

More of course, you support a lot of Democratic programs and regulation.
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2010, 06:38:50 pm »
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This is BS, there were many Rockefeller and Goldwater Republicans long after the Reagan/Bush Sr. Reagan trully beleived in a big tent party and brought in members from all across the party like Sen Mark Hatfield and John Chafee into the discussions and meetings. Unlike Bush who ostracized on purpose Jim Jeffords speeding up his leaving the party and began the era of purge the moderates in 2001.
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2010, 06:43:07 pm »
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This is BS, there were many Rockefeller and Goldwater Republicans long after the Reagan/Bush Sr. Reagan trully beleived in a big tent party and brought in members from all across the party like Sen Mark Hatfield and John Chafee into the discussions and meetings. Unlike Bush who ostracized on purpose Jim Jeffords speeding up his leaving the party and began the era of purge the moderates in 2001.

Goldwater Republicans are NOT liberal on economic issues. As for the Rockefeller Republicans that remained after Reagan/Bush Sr., they were mostly moderate/liberal on social issues, but became very conservative on economic issues (even though some of them might have been more liberal on economic issues before Reagan/Bush Sr. came into power).
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2010, 08:43:41 pm »
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Tough to beat Coburn on this front.
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2010, 10:02:02 pm »
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     Coburn by the sensible definition of the term. I guess Cao is a good contender for the American definition.
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2010, 10:54:25 pm »
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By the American definition, it's probably some nominal Republican holding some small office somewhere.
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2010, 01:29:31 am »
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Tom Coburn is not a liberal either even by European definition, under which even that there is a different between liberal and conservative. You don't see Coburn fitting well in the Liberal Democrats or Democrats 66 even economically do you? A European economic liberal would be like Mark Kirk (at least before he started running for Senate and got all teabaggy.)
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2010, 06:13:14 am »
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Tom Coburn is not a liberal either even by European definition, under which even that there is a different between liberal and conservative. You don't see Coburn fitting well in the Liberal Democrats or Democrats 66 even economically do you? A European economic liberal would be like Mark Kirk (at least before he started running for Senate and got all teabaggy.)

That's an insult to european liberals.

Kirk is an asshole.
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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2010, 06:16:35 am »
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Tom Coburn is not a liberal either even by European definition, under which even that there is a different between liberal and conservative. You don't see Coburn fitting well in the Liberal Democrats or Democrats 66 even economically do you? A European economic liberal would be like Mark Kirk (at least before he started running for Senate and got all teabaggy.)

Obviously Coburn wouldn't fit well in a liberal party, but nobody's calling him a liberal. His economic policies, howeber, are extremely neoliberal.
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Not counting his anti-free trade votes.  It's not his intention to protect labor in those cases.
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2010, 11:22:33 pm »
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Tom Coburn is not a liberal either even by European definition, under which even that there is a different between liberal and conservative. You don't see Coburn fitting well in the Liberal Democrats or Democrats 66 even economically do you? A European economic liberal would be like Mark Kirk (at least before he started running for Senate and got all teabaggy.)

Obviously Coburn wouldn't fit well in a liberal party, but nobody's calling him a liberal. His economic policies, howeber, are extremely neoliberal.

Far right economically != neoliberal. Lots of extremist libertarians hate neoliberals. I know Bono does.
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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2010, 01:42:32 am »
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Tom Coburn is not a liberal either even by European definition, under which even that there is a different between liberal and conservative. You don't see Coburn fitting well in the Liberal Democrats or Democrats 66 even economically do you? A European economic liberal would be like Mark Kirk (at least before he started running for Senate and got all teabaggy.)

Obviously Coburn wouldn't fit well in a liberal party, but nobody's calling him a liberal. His economic policies, howeber, are extremely neoliberal.

Far right economically != neoliberal. Lots of extremist libertarians hate neoliberals. I know Bono does.

Is Bono really a libertarian? I thought he was a liberal.
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2010, 03:53:03 am »
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Tom Coburn is not a liberal either even by European definition, under which even that there is a different between liberal and conservative. You don't see Coburn fitting well in the Liberal Democrats or Democrats 66 even economically do you? A European economic liberal would be like Mark Kirk (at least before he started running for Senate and got all teabaggy.)

Obviously Coburn wouldn't fit well in a liberal party, but nobody's calling him a liberal. His economic policies, howeber, are extremely neoliberal.

Far right economically != neoliberal. Lots of extremist libertarians hate neoliberals. I know Bono does.

Is Bono really a libertarian? I thought he was a liberal.

     He is a liberal. At least, in the same sense I'm a liberal, Libertas is a liberal, & Einzige is a liberal. If you mean you thought he was economically leftist, he's easily the most right-leaning of the forum libertarians.
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Actually, I'm pretty sure Philip qualifies as the most far-right libertarian on the forum, and he's so far right that I'd never live in any country he governed. Mech and I probably tie for most left-leaning.
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2010, 04:34:42 am »
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Actually, I'm pretty sure Philip qualifies as the most far-right libertarian on the forum, and he's so far right that I'd never live in any country he governed. Mech and I probably tie for most left-leaning.

     In my experience, Philip tends to be more balanced in the positions he endorses while Bono mostly fights his battles over economic issues (he once professed to not caring about same-sex marriage).
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2010, 04:39:58 am »
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Actually, I'm pretty sure Philip qualifies as the most far-right libertarian on the forum, and he's so far right that I'd never live in any country he governed. Mech and I probably tie for most left-leaning.

     In my experience, Philip tends to be more balanced in the positions he endorses while Bono mostly fights his battles over economic issues (he once professed to not caring about same-sex marriage).

He does, however, have a lot of that HURR CHRISTIANITY HURR attitude that's common among those on the paleocon spectrum.
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