Suppose Tom Harkin won the '92 Dem nomination...

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Since there's a folder on Tsongas, I thought I'd start one for Tom Harkin.

As many of you know, I had little use for the likes of Tsongas, but I was a Harkin man.

I think that if Harkin had received the nomination he would have utterly stomped Bush. Even worse than Bush actually did get stomped.

His economic issues would have played very well. I could see him picking up Indiana and South Dakota.

[Gustaf]

Since there's a folder on Tsongas, I thought I'd start one for Tom Harkin.

As many of you know, I had little use for the likes of Tsongas, but I was a Harkin man.

I think that if Harkin had received the nomination he would have utterly stomped Bush. Even worse than Bush actually did get stomped.

His economic issues would have played very well. I could see him picking up Indiana and South Dakota.

Indiana and South Dakota seem unlikely to go Dem ever, basically.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

South Dakota came very close in 1992 and 1996. Had Clinton not moved so far to the right in '96, he would have carried South Dakota.

[WalterMitty]

harkin would have lost to bush.  harkin is an old school unapologetic liberal, in the walter mondale mold.

[minionofmidas]

What was Harkin's stance on NAFTA?

[Bandit3 the Worker]

What was Harkin's stance on NAFTA?

I don't know. I think he opposed it.

Actually Clinton once opposed it, then of course he later changed his mind.

[Nym90]

No, he voted Yes on it.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=103&session=1&vote=00395

[NHPolitico]

No, he voted Yes on it.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=103&session=1&vote=00395

He also voted for OIF-- a poser populist Wellstone liberal.

[opebo]

South Dakota came very close in 1992 and 1996. Had Clinton not moved so far to the right in '96, he would have carried South Dakota.

The only reason SD was at all close in '92 and '96 was all those midguided Republicans voting for Perot.  Had nothing to do with Clinton.

[dunn]

South Dakota came very close in 1992 and 1996. Had Clinton not moved so far to the right in '96, he would have carried South Dakota.

The only reason SD was at all close in '92 and '96 was all those midguided Republicans voting for Perot.  Had nothing to do with Clinton.

true indeed

[minionofmidas]

Yes and No. Of course it wouldn't have been close without Perot. But then it wouldn't have been close with a weaker Dem candidate either. And Montana and the Dakotas got surprisingly close in 1988, although this is probably drought-related.