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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2010, 12:08:12 AM »

I actually still have a tough time believing there are actually people who wait until they're 21 to drink. Was my university just very abnormal? But when there's tons of easy access to alcohol, a relatively low chance of being caught, and not much in terms of consequences even if you do get caught, there's not much reason not to.

Phil said he didn't.

     I plan not to, & after seeing how expensive alcohol is I am doubly sure I won't.
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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2010, 12:14:09 AM »

How is it "hard" to not drink?  I never drink, and I regularly hang out with people who are.
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2010, 12:18:45 AM »


Whichg means that it includes speeding (Hamilton's quote makes it seem like it didn't include speeding).
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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2010, 12:22:27 AM »

There is no person who drives who has never ever speeded (especially since speeding unintentionally and at a level where you will not be ticketed is quite easy.)
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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2010, 12:34:16 AM »
« Edited: January 11, 2010, 12:36:41 AM by sea of alcohol and pills »

Here are all my crimes:

Underage drinking (quite frequently when I was underage)
Providing alcohol to underage people (never in the last two years or so though.)
Providing pornography to minors (my brothers when they were underage.)
Use of marijuana (rarely, there's maybe three or so instances the statute of limitations hasn't expired on, not that it would matter anyway)
Public intoxication (I'm good at keeping to myself though if I'm just coming home after getting drunk or whatever and don't act like a jerk or anything that would draw attention and result in an arrest. Probably not even illegal under Minnesota law.)
Speeding (Rarely severely, but I've been ticketed twice)
Jaywalking (I never cross at a red light, I'm referring to crossing at the middle of the street. And only if there aren't any other cars around.)
Running a red light (always unintentionally. There's some streets in Minneapolis where this is quite easy to do.)
Illegal parking (Been ticketed once for this.)
Illegally downloading music (Not that often though since I went to college and beyond, and most that I do I later buy. I'm not even morally opposed to it really, it's just not something I have much interest in anymore. I'd rather listen to my records and I prefer online radio like Last.fm's for checking out new stuff)
Engaging in prostitution (I never paid for sex, just for an "erotic massage" a few times, so basically a handjob. Falls under prostitution law but not really enforced here.)
Lewd behavior (Maybe. Some things I've done with strippers in the backrooms and some massage parlors might fall under this but not prostitution. On the other hand Minnesota law is actually very lax about this sort of thing. Even public masturbation isn't illegal in Minnesota!)

Meh, pretty boring overall actually.
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« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2010, 12:43:19 AM »

Wow, you're badass.
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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2010, 12:45:23 AM »

Actually if you read it you'd say that even I admitted it's rather boring.
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« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2010, 12:54:36 AM »

Nobody asked for your list. If you weren't trying to impress a few impressionable idiots anyone then what was the point of posting all that?
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« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2010, 12:55:59 AM »

Boredom and curiosity in how long my list would be personally.

Oh yeah I forgot breaking teen curfews, but they weren't really enforced when I was a teen anyway.
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« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2010, 12:58:37 AM »

Here are all my crimes:

Underage drinking (quite frequently when I was underage)
Providing alcohol to underage people (never in the last two years or so though.)
Providing pornography to minors (my brothers when they were underage.)
Use of marijuana (rarely, there's maybe three or so instances the statute of limitations hasn't expired on, not that it would matter anyway)
Public intoxication (I'm good at keeping to myself though if I'm just coming home after getting drunk or whatever and don't act like a jerk or anything that would draw attention and result in an arrest. Probably not even illegal under Minnesota law.)
Speeding (Rarely severely, but I've been ticketed twice)
Jaywalking (I never cross at a red light, I'm referring to crossing at the middle of the street. And only if there aren't any other cars around.)
Running a red light (always unintentionally. There's some streets in Minneapolis where this is quite easy to do.)
Illegal parking (Been ticketed once for this.)
Illegally downloading music (Not that often though since I went to college and beyond, and most that I do I later buy. I'm not even morally opposed to it really, it's just not something I have much interest in anymore. I'd rather listen to my records and I prefer online radio like Last.fm's for checking out new stuff)
Engaging in prostitution (I never paid for sex, just for an "erotic massage" a few times, so basically a handjob. Falls under prostitution law but not really enforced here.)
Lewd behavior (Maybe. Some things I've done with strippers in the backrooms and some massage parlors might fall under this but not prostitution. On the other hand Minnesota law is actually very lax about this sort of thing. Even public masturbation isn't illegal in Minnesota!)

Meh, pretty boring overall actually.
compared to your list mine is very short.
Mine is just breaking into the house of the guy who made the game sims to keep my friend from freezing. She fell in the ocean in the winter.
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« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2010, 01:16:55 AM »

Here are all my crimes:

Underage drinking (quite frequently when I was underage)
Providing alcohol to underage people (never in the last two years or so though.)
Providing pornography to minors (my brothers when they were underage.)
Use of marijuana (rarely, there's maybe three or so instances the statute of limitations hasn't expired on, not that it would matter anyway)
Public intoxication (I'm good at keeping to myself though if I'm just coming home after getting drunk or whatever and don't act like a jerk or anything that would draw attention and result in an arrest. Probably not even illegal under Minnesota law.)
Speeding (Rarely severely, but I've been ticketed twice)
Jaywalking (I never cross at a red light, I'm referring to crossing at the middle of the street. And only if there aren't any other cars around.)
Running a red light (always unintentionally. There's some streets in Minneapolis where this is quite easy to do.)
Illegal parking (Been ticketed once for this.)
Illegally downloading music (Not that often though since I went to college and beyond, and most that I do I later buy. I'm not even morally opposed to it really, it's just not something I have much interest in anymore. I'd rather listen to my records and I prefer online radio like Last.fm's for checking out new stuff)
Engaging in prostitution (I never paid for sex, just for an "erotic massage" a few times, so basically a handjob. Falls under prostitution law but not really enforced here.)
Lewd behavior (Maybe. Some things I've done with strippers in the backrooms and some massage parlors might fall under this but not prostitution. On the other hand Minnesota law is actually very lax about this sort of thing. Even public masturbation isn't illegal in Minnesota!)

Meh, pretty boring overall actually.
compared to your list mine is very short.
Mine is just breaking into the house of the guy who made the game sims to keep my friend from freezing. She fell in the ocean in the winter.

Why did you have to break into the house of the guy who made the game sims to keep your friend from freezing? Huh
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« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2010, 01:18:16 AM »

Here are all my crimes:

Underage drinking (quite frequently when I was underage)
Providing alcohol to underage people (never in the last two years or so though.)
Providing pornography to minors (my brothers when they were underage.)
Use of marijuana (rarely, there's maybe three or so instances the statute of limitations hasn't expired on, not that it would matter anyway)
Public intoxication (I'm good at keeping to myself though if I'm just coming home after getting drunk or whatever and don't act like a jerk or anything that would draw attention and result in an arrest. Probably not even illegal under Minnesota law.)
Speeding (Rarely severely, but I've been ticketed twice)
Jaywalking (I never cross at a red light, I'm referring to crossing at the middle of the street. And only if there aren't any other cars around.)
Running a red light (always unintentionally. There's some streets in Minneapolis where this is quite easy to do.)
Illegal parking (Been ticketed once for this.)
Illegally downloading music (Not that often though since I went to college and beyond, and most that I do I later buy. I'm not even morally opposed to it really, it's just not something I have much interest in anymore. I'd rather listen to my records and I prefer online radio like Last.fm's for checking out new stuff)
Engaging in prostitution (I never paid for sex, just for an "erotic massage" a few times, so basically a handjob. Falls under prostitution law but not really enforced here.)
Lewd behavior (Maybe. Some things I've done with strippers in the backrooms and some massage parlors might fall under this but not prostitution. On the other hand Minnesota law is actually very lax about this sort of thing. Even public masturbation isn't illegal in Minnesota!)

Meh, pretty boring overall actually.
compared to your list mine is very short.
Mine is just breaking into the house of the guy who made the game sims to keep my friend from freezing. She fell in the ocean in the winter.

Why did you have to break into the house of the guy who made the game sims to keep your friend from freezing? Huh
yeah. My grandfathers house was next door but in that area properties are very far apart. Now the producer of friends has my grandfathers house.
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« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2010, 01:24:58 AM »

There is no person who drives who has never ever speeded (especially since speeding unintentionally and at a level where you will not be ticketed is quite easy.)

Oh, I admit that I've sped before.  There's times where I'll be driving and my foot gets a little too heavy on the pedal, but I never intentionally speed.  And when I catch myself going over, I slow down.  But by no means do I perfectly follow my principle.
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« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2010, 01:29:05 AM »

There is no person who drives who has never ever speeded (especially since speeding unintentionally and at a level where you will not be ticketed is quite easy.)

Oh, I admit that I've sped before.  There's times where I'll be driving and my foot gets a little too heavy on the pedal, but I never intentionally speed.  And when I catch myself going over, I slow down.  But by no means do I perfectly follow my principle.

If the speed limits were set at sensible levels, I would not speed either.

But alas, they are not.
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« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2010, 01:29:12 PM »

Inks, it's a rare thing to actually live by one's own moral code. Tongue It's commendable. But you should try these things out, because you really can't understand them until you have... ideally, from my point of view, you would ultimately abandon social conservatism; but if not, who cares? Everyone makes mistakes, right? It just proves you have blood in your veins like everyone else.

I actually still have a tough time believing there are actually people who wait until they're 21 to drink. Was my university just very abnormal?

No. You know when you're on campus on a weekend night, and everyone you see is getting wasted and having a great time? You don't see any straightedge people because they stay at home. That doesn't mean they don't exist, though.
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« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2010, 02:01:59 PM »

Inks, it's a rare thing to actually live by one's own moral code. Tongue It's commendable. But you should try these things out, because you really can't understand them until you have... ideally, from my point of view, you would ultimately abandon social conservatism; but if not, who cares? Everyone makes mistakes, right? It just proves you have blood in your veins like everyone else.

I actually still have a tough time believing there are actually people who wait until they're 21 to drink. Was my university just very abnormal?

No. You know when you're on campus on a weekend night, and everyone you see is getting wasted and having a great time? You don't see any straightedge people because they stay at home. That doesn't mean they don't exist, though.

Yeah but those people aren't going to drink after they turn 21 either. Harry comes to mind.
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« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2010, 09:46:06 PM »

I don't drink, and haven't, despite being 21. I don't feel I'm missing much.
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« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2010, 09:46:54 PM »

That's not what I'm referring to. I'm thinking of the hypothetical person who doesn't drink a drop until they're 21 and then goes and gets totally wasted. That makes no sense.
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« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2010, 09:47:39 PM »

That's not what I'm referring to. I'm thinking of the hypothetical person who doesn't drink a drop until they're 21 and then goes and gets totally wasted. That makes no sense.

That's the goal of MLDA 21.
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« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2010, 09:52:59 PM »

My principles are:

Smoke

Drink

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« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2010, 09:53:33 PM »

Actually most states do allow people under 21 to drink in some circumstances (basically under parental supervision.) Though it still doesn't make sense to think of someone who refuses to drink around their parents until they turn 21, especially with how easily available alcohol is on college campuses.
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« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2010, 09:59:31 PM »

Actually most states do allow people under 21 to drink in some circumstances (basically under parental supervision.)

Inks happens to be in one of the worst states for that...


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« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2010, 10:04:26 PM »

Meh underage drinking is so much fun. I miss it.
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« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2010, 10:10:36 PM »

Meh underage drinking is so much fun. I miss it.

So I do. Since 2006...
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« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2010, 10:14:20 PM »

Meh underage drinking is so much fun. I miss it.

     ^This is why the drinking age is completely useless.
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