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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« on: January 10, 2010, 04:34:06 AM »

Idiotic principle. Do what's fun as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,030
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2010, 04:38:30 AM »

I actually still have a tough time believing there are actually people who wait until they're 21 to drink. Was my university just very abnormal? But when there's tons of easy access to alcohol, a relatively low chance of being caught, and not much in terms of consequences even if you do get caught, there's not much reason not to.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,030
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2010, 03:18:49 PM »

I actually still have a tough time believing there are actually people who wait until they're 21 to drink. Was my university just very abnormal? But when there's tons of easy access to alcohol, a relatively low chance of being caught, and not much in terms of consequences even if you do get caught, there's not much reason not to.

Phil said he didn't.

Yes, but Phil was a mega-prude. I've never met anyone like him in real life and have a tough time even conceptualizing such a person frankly. At my college you either drank or you weren't interested, no one was "waiting". It's kind of pointless to just refuse to drink on principle anyway if you're at a party or everyone around you is.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,030
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2010, 12:22:27 AM »

There is no person who drives who has never ever speeded (especially since speeding unintentionally and at a level where you will not be ticketed is quite easy.)
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,030
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2010, 12:34:16 AM »
« Edited: January 11, 2010, 12:36:41 AM by sea of alcohol and pills »

Here are all my crimes:

Underage drinking (quite frequently when I was underage)
Providing alcohol to underage people (never in the last two years or so though.)
Providing pornography to minors (my brothers when they were underage.)
Use of marijuana (rarely, there's maybe three or so instances the statute of limitations hasn't expired on, not that it would matter anyway)
Public intoxication (I'm good at keeping to myself though if I'm just coming home after getting drunk or whatever and don't act like a jerk or anything that would draw attention and result in an arrest. Probably not even illegal under Minnesota law.)
Speeding (Rarely severely, but I've been ticketed twice)
Jaywalking (I never cross at a red light, I'm referring to crossing at the middle of the street. And only if there aren't any other cars around.)
Running a red light (always unintentionally. There's some streets in Minneapolis where this is quite easy to do.)
Illegal parking (Been ticketed once for this.)
Illegally downloading music (Not that often though since I went to college and beyond, and most that I do I later buy. I'm not even morally opposed to it really, it's just not something I have much interest in anymore. I'd rather listen to my records and I prefer online radio like Last.fm's for checking out new stuff)
Engaging in prostitution (I never paid for sex, just for an "erotic massage" a few times, so basically a handjob. Falls under prostitution law but not really enforced here.)
Lewd behavior (Maybe. Some things I've done with strippers in the backrooms and some massage parlors might fall under this but not prostitution. On the other hand Minnesota law is actually very lax about this sort of thing. Even public masturbation isn't illegal in Minnesota!)

Meh, pretty boring overall actually.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,030
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2010, 12:45:23 AM »

Actually if you read it you'd say that even I admitted it's rather boring.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,030
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2010, 12:55:59 AM »

Boredom and curiosity in how long my list would be personally.

Oh yeah I forgot breaking teen curfews, but they weren't really enforced when I was a teen anyway.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,030
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2010, 02:01:59 PM »

Inks, it's a rare thing to actually live by one's own moral code. Tongue It's commendable. But you should try these things out, because you really can't understand them until you have... ideally, from my point of view, you would ultimately abandon social conservatism; but if not, who cares? Everyone makes mistakes, right? It just proves you have blood in your veins like everyone else.

I actually still have a tough time believing there are actually people who wait until they're 21 to drink. Was my university just very abnormal?

No. You know when you're on campus on a weekend night, and everyone you see is getting wasted and having a great time? You don't see any straightedge people because they stay at home. That doesn't mean they don't exist, though.

Yeah but those people aren't going to drink after they turn 21 either. Harry comes to mind.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,030
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2010, 09:46:54 PM »

That's not what I'm referring to. I'm thinking of the hypothetical person who doesn't drink a drop until they're 21 and then goes and gets totally wasted. That makes no sense.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,030
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2010, 09:53:33 PM »

Actually most states do allow people under 21 to drink in some circumstances (basically under parental supervision.) Though it still doesn't make sense to think of someone who refuses to drink around their parents until they turn 21, especially with how easily available alcohol is on college campuses.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,030
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2010, 10:04:26 PM »

Meh underage drinking is so much fun. I miss it.
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