Obama approval down to 46% says CBS news.

[The Vorlon]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6084818.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/poll_obama_011110.pdf?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Ra^ther Interesting....  CBS is traditionally a fairly Obama friendly poll.

In this poll, self identified Democrats outnumber Republicans by about 5%.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Alot of lies supported in the media tend to do that.

[Mint]

Alienating your own base tends to do that.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Alienating your own base tends to do that.

That also doesn't help.

[12th Doctor]

Running for President when you weren't prepared for the job tends to do that.

[Nym90]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6084818.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/poll_obama_011110.pdf?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Ra^ther Interesting....  CBS is traditionally a fairly Obama friendly poll.

In this poll, self identified Democrats outnumber Republicans by about 5%.

The fact that his disapproval number is only 41 percent in the same poll, and that you failed to mention this, is rather interesting also. So when Dems outnumber GOPers by 5 percent in the poll and his approval rating is 5 points above his disapproval rating.....well, that's what we'd expect, no?

[J. J.]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6084818.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/poll_obama_011110.pdf?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Ra^ther Interesting....  CBS is traditionally a fairly Obama friendly poll.

In this poll, self identified Democrats outnumber Republicans by about 5%.

The fact that his disapproval number is only 41 percent in the same poll, and that you failed to mention this, is rather interesting also. So when Dems outnumber GOPers by 5 percent in the poll and his approval rating is 5 points above his disapproval rating.....well, that's what we'd expect, no?

No, that really isn't what you'd expect.  There tends to be some variance.

[perdedor]

The surprising part is that they are still that high. Obama is making the big mistake of taking the liberal base for granted, they will likely leave him out to dry in 2012 if he doesn't start delivering on his campaign promises.

[SvenssonRS]

Being the stereotypical useless, spineless Democrat does that.

Seriously, even I'd respect him a little more if he stopped letting his opponents walk all over him, and maybe delivered a few of his campaign promises in the process.

[Хahar 🤔]

Being the stereotypical useless, spineless Democrat does that.

Seriously, even I'd respect him a little more if he stopped letting his opponents walk all over him, and maybe delivered a few of his campaign promises in the process.

Haha, you're confusing him with a Republican.

[Free Palestine]

[perdedor]

Hope...yes. I hope someone primaries him in 2012, perhaps a legitiment challenge from his left will light a fire under his ass.

[MK]

Being president with a 10% + unemployment will do that.

This being CBS ( which leans Dem) kinda makes you wonder about 2012.

If only the stupid, greedy, wealthsucking republicans  had a real candidate worth talking bout ....

[Free Palestine]

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Hope...yes. I hope someone primaries him in 2012, perhaps a legitiment challenge from his left will light a fire under his ass.

Otherwise, the GOP might nominate some loonycake like Huckabee, and win.

[You kip if you want to...]

I think it's easy to disapprove of Obama, but if this was 2012 and voters were faced to decide between say Obama and Palin, well... they'd choose Obama, even if they disappoved of his job.

[TeePee4Prez]

Being president with a 10% + unemployment will do that.

If only the stupid, greedy, wealthsucking republicans  had a real candidate worth talking bout ....

Sadly, because of these 2 things, they'll come back with more tax cuts and deregulation will cure all what ails this economy and people will somehow buy back into their crap.  No really.. Watch.  You'd have to wonder why Portman and Toomey are doing so well in 2010 polling. 

[J. J.]

Being president with a 10% + unemployment will do that.

If only the stupid, greedy, wealthsucking republicans  had a real candidate worth talking bout ....

Sadly, because of these 2 things, they'll come back with more tax cuts and deregulation will cure all what ails this economy and people will somehow buy back into their crap.  No really.. Watch.  You'd have to wonder why Portman and Toomey are doing so well in 2010 polling. 

If done correctly, it will stimulate the economy, obviously better than the "stimulus" package.

[Free Palestine]

I think it's easy to disapprove of Obama, but if this was 2012 and voters were faced to decide between say Obama and Palin, well... they'd choose Obama, even if they disappoved of his job.

You overestimate the intelligence of the average voter.

[TeePee4Prez]

Being president with a 10% + unemployment will do that.

If only the stupid, greedy, wealthsucking republicans  had a real candidate worth talking bout ....

Sadly, because of these 2 things, they'll come back with more tax cuts and deregulation will cure all what ails this economy and people will somehow buy back into their crap.  No really.. Watch.  You'd have to wonder why Portman and Toomey are doing so well in 2010 polling. 

If done correctly, it will stimulate the economy, obviously better than the "stimulus" package.

We had 8 years of it.  I wouldn't exactly call it laissez-faire, but definitely deregulation and supply side tax cuts, but it didn't work.  Modified Keynesian economic policies during the 1990s worked.  Granted, I have issues with the stimulus as well, but it's more a matter of where the money's targeted (i.e. Home Buyers' Credit vs. Actual Jobs) that has me a bit pissed, not the concept.

[Vepres]

I think it's easy to disapprove of Obama, but if this was 2012 and voters were faced to decide between say Obama and Palin, well... they'd choose Obama, even if they disappoved of his job.

Palin won't have a chance. Obama's opponent will likely be a respectable, intelligent, experienced person (I didn't say they would be moderate though ).

Generally, it seems Presidents who beat incumbents (in 20th century) were good President's from a leadership perspective (Clinton, Reagan, FDR).

[Nym90]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6084818.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/poll_obama_011110.pdf?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Ra^ther Interesting....  CBS is traditionally a fairly Obama friendly poll.

In this poll, self identified Democrats outnumber Republicans by about 5%.

The fact that his disapproval number is only 41 percent in the same poll, and that you failed to mention this, is rather interesting also. So when Dems outnumber GOPers by 5 percent in the poll and his approval rating is 5 points above his disapproval rating.....well, that's what we'd expect, no?

No, that really isn't what you'd expect.  There tends to be some variance.

The point was that the 46 percent approval rating is a lot better than it would otherwise look when you consider the high number of "undecideds".

[J. J.]

We had 8 years of it.  I wouldn't exactly call it laissez-faire, but definitely deregulation and supply side tax cuts, but it didn't work.  Modified Keynesian economic policies during the 1990s worked.  Granted, I have issues with the stimulus as well, but it's more a matter of where the money's targeted (i.e. Home Buyers' Credit vs. Actual Jobs) that has me a bit pissed, not the concept.

Actually, it did, in terms of supply side stimulus.

Smart, and enforced regulation is the key.

[J. J.]

The point was that the 46 percent approval rating is a lot better than it would otherwise look when you consider the high number of "undecideds".

Not really, we saw those reasonably high undecided numbers in the case of Jimmy Carter on some other polls.  Reagans tended to be slight lower but still would cross into double digits. 

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/presidential-approval-tracker.htm

There will also be poll to poll variation.

[Beet]

Being president with a 10% + unemployment will do that.

This being CBS ( which leans Dem) kinda makes you wonder about 2012.

If only the stupid, greedy, wealthsucking republicans  had a real candidate worth talking bout ....

^^^^^

[The Vorlon]

I think it's easy to disapprove of Obama, but if this was 2012 and voters were faced to decide between say Obama and Palin, well... they'd choose Obama, even if they disappoved of his job.

Job approval is a decent, but certainly not perfect, predictor of future electoral success.

As a rule of thumb, any incumbant with a 50%+ is usually in pretty decent shape, expecially at the presidential level where job approval correlates pretty well with actual votes.

In the 45-50% range it really boils down to the quality of the campaigns run, and the quality of the opponent. - In 2004 Bush was 45% ish in job approval and stumbled to re-election because Senator kerry's campaign failed to seal the seal.

Any rating below 45% or so and the candidate is in deep trouble.

There are exceptions, of course.

 In 2006 Lincoln Chaffee LOST his senate seat with a 61% approval rating among those who actually voted.

In the early 2000s Gray Davis was re-elected Governor of CAL-EEE-FORNYA with an approval rating of 37%