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« Reply #2475 on: December 08, 2010, 01:39:30 am »
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So perhaps now might be the time to quit dancing around as you have been for so long, and just tell the offenders exactly what psychological condition you suspect he has, in order for any confusion to end.  I have my own suspicions as you do, but I don't really know enough about it.

I'm not going to do that here. I don't think it's right to say what specific condition I think he has but it's pretty obvious that there is something else wrong. There isn't any confusion about it. Stating what it could specifically be wouldn't matter. It's really pathetic that people recognize it but still do what they do because, well, we don't know for sure and/or because BushOK isn't admitting to it.

After all of the stuff that has been said here, I don't think it's something he'd want to admit. I'll say that he planted a pretty good hint a few posts back.

Seriously if you want people to take what you're saying seriously, drop the Sam Spade-esque bit.

There isn't anything Sam Spade-esque about this. You know that I'm saying he has other problems. You know what I'm getting at. You just want me to say something specific which wouldn't make any difference. Unlike someone like yourself, BRTD, I have some class and I won't speculate over specific conditions the guy might have so everyone here can gossip about that, too.
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« Reply #2476 on: December 08, 2010, 01:47:48 am »
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BushOK has already gleaned long ago what it is you've been implying about him for so long, but like the rest of us, he doesn't fully know what these "issues" you speak of actually are.  You're concerned with hurting his feelings and defending him from personal attacks, but perhaps you should look at what you've been saying yourself.  For his sake, doesn't he have a right to know what psychological condition(s) you've been ascribing to him?

And not everybody who has been insulting him has been picking up on your hints, believe it or not.  That's why you need to be more specific.  Cruel to be kind, etc.
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« Reply #2477 on: December 08, 2010, 01:56:32 am »
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BushOK has already gleaned long ago what it is you've been implying about him for so long, but like the rest of us, he doesn't fully know what these "issues" you speak of actually are.  You're concerned with hurting his feelings and defending him from personal attacks, but perhaps you should look at what you've been saying yourself.  For his sake, doesn't he have a right to know what psychological condition(s) you've been ascribing to him?

Joe, honestly, give it a rest. You're just giving me a hard time for the sake of giving me a hard time. You've admitted that you don't care about BushOK's situation.

BushOK knows that I think he has other issues and went on to state that he didn't mind how I was defending him. He took objection to the fact that I said he has other issues...then admitted that he might have other issues. If this doesn't help my case, I don't know what does.

Don't sarcastic about what I should be doing for his sake. I'm sorry that you find this amusing and want to make it even more of a joke. Especially unfortunate because I know for a fact you wouldn't like people joking around about something from which you've been suffering. I remember someone making a joke about an accident and you weren't exactly pleased (and rightfully so).


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And not everybody who has been insulting him has been picking up on your hints, believe it or not.  That's why you need to be more specific.  Cruel to be kind, etc.

You know as well as I do that any hints I've been dropping have been obvious. Though some people might have the maturity of a six year old, they understand what I mean when I say he has "other issues." I'm just not going to post it here because then it becomes a gossip item.
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« Reply #2478 on: December 08, 2010, 02:10:08 am »
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I'm giving you a hard time because you're approaching this defense of BushOK from completely the wrong angle.  Ok, so I don't particularly care about him, but as I already indicated, I put myself in his position for a minute, and found that I didn't really like what you were doing for 'me'.  He sees it differently... fine.

Thanks for assuming I'm joking and being sarcastic about this whole thing, by the way.  Nice to know you have such high regard for my intentions here.  Everything in my last post was genuine, for the record.

Whatever.  Feel free to continue referring to BushOK's mental health without ever actually stating what specific conditions you're talking about.  He doesn't even mind, apparently.  I know I would.  But I'm just a clown to you, so it doesn't count.
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« Reply #2479 on: December 08, 2010, 02:14:03 am »
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As I mentioned in an earlier post here, I more or less agree.  However, I'm not quite as emotionally attached to this whole debacle, and don't particularly feel obliged to defend BushOK, hence why I feel that I can level this criticism against Phil.

So because you're not involved and don't feel obligated to defend the guy, you can criticize me even though you agree with what I'm hinting at? What?

Why so confused?  You and I agree about his psychological problems, but the difference is that I don't particularly care about BushOK, tbh.  You, however, have decided to crusade against the ne'erdowells who are laughing at him, and your primary line of defense is that he has serious mental issues, which he denies having.  To me, and I'm only speaking for me, that's about the lamest defense ever, and just as insulting if it were me.

He goes on to admit that maybe he does. I don't know about you but I think bullying someone that has other issues on the Internet is pretty damn low. I would think that with what has happened recently more people would step up and try to stop it. Unfortunately, there aren't enough people like that here.

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That's my only criticism:  you're calling out people for jokingly calling him a retard and so on by heavily implying that he actually is one.

No one is jokingly calling him that and even if they were, that makes it right? Are you serious? If someone has other issues, it's not right to point them out so people stop making jokes about it?

People are making fun of him because they see him as a silly, folksy, weird religious lunatic. Those types are fun to make fun of because a lot of people here don't like them. There isn't actually anything wrong with them so they are fair game. Once people are told there might actually be something else wrong with the guy, they either a) pretend that no one is bringing it up, b) say there is no way we can really know so just continue to do whatever you want or c) blame his problems on religion, his family, etc. No one would dare say, "Yeah, there's something else wrong but we can continue to mock him."

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Bushie has other problems, no question about it.  However, do certain things that he believes in or is told make those problems worse?

 For a specific example during the time period when he was contemplating quitting his job and getting involved in the on-company scam (which is what he did) his dad tells him sometimes you just need to take a leap of faith.

 I'm not trying to deride his religion or his family, but doesn't being told something like that make things worse?

Bushie, serious question.  If during the time when you were contemplating quitting your job, instead of hearing the sometimes you have to take that leap of faith, God will come through and stuff like that from your family they were saying the same things we were on here and jumping up and down warning you it was a scam like we were, do you think you would have still quit your job?
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« Reply #2480 on: December 08, 2010, 02:18:50 am »
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but as I already indicated, I put myself in his position for a minute, and found that I didn't really like what you were doing for 'me'.  He sees it differently... fine.

With all due respect, Joe, it doesn't matter that you don't like it (as you've admitted).

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Thanks for assuming I'm joking and being sarcastic about this whole thing, by the way.  Nice to know you have such high regard for my intentions here.  Everything in my last post was genuine, for the record.

Can you really blame me? You know how much I respect you (though I suspect that you think I'm joking around) but you came right out and said you didn't care about him and his situation. What did you want me to think?

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Whatever.  Feel free to continue referring to BushOK's mental health without ever actually stating what specific conditions you're talking about.  He doesn't even mind, apparently.  I know I would.  But I'm just a clown to you, so it doesn't count.

Because it doesn't matter what specific condition he might have. Why? Because it would just became even more of a joke for the low lives here. And just as they're doing now, people would say that we don't know for sure and say that I'm in the wrong even as they laugh at the guy.

You want to give me a hard time? Fine. But we have a guy here that lost his damn job right before Christmas you can't even dedicate a sentence to the guy. "Sorry to hear that." Nothing. Maybe Sharron Angle should have said something about the unemployed. That would have gotten you to comment.
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« Reply #2481 on: December 08, 2010, 02:33:38 am »
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Okay.  My whole point tonight has been that I think you're being just as much of a dick as the ones you're crusading against, just in a different way.  Your intentions are good, but your execution is appalling.  BushOK doesn't think so, so that's great.

You want to give me a hard time? Fine. But we have a guy here that lost his damn job right before Christmas you can't even dedicate a sentence to the guy. "Sorry to hear that." Nothing.

I rarely comment on anybody's attention whoring announcements; good or bad.  It's none of my business, and I often don't care.

Maybe Sharron Angle should have said something about the unemployed. That would have gotten you to comment.

Oooh, burn.  Thanks, Phil.  Good night.
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« Reply #2482 on: December 08, 2010, 02:37:35 am »
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Okay.  My whole point tonight has been that I think you're being just as much of a dick as the ones you're crusading against

Yes, to people that want to make this about BushOK being a stupid religious and those that literally laughed at the guy for losing his job.

I'm not being a dick by saying, "Hey, guys, let's not make fun of someone that obviously has something else going on." I've done it before and have literally been told to shut up and stop ruining the fun. Unreal.

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I rarely comment on anybody's attention whoring announcements; good or bad.  It's none of my business, and I often don't care.

So you care enough to come here to lecture me about "being a dick" but can't say, "Hey, dude, sorry you lost your job?" Come on.
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« Reply #2483 on: December 08, 2010, 08:14:18 am »
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I for one don't believe Bushie has any really serious mental issues. When you look at the things that happened to him over the course of the past thread and a half, you can see that he did indeed make some stupid decisions that he ought to have thought trough more. But fast decision-making is a character flaw more than anything else. You guys are all flawless? Because I sure as hell am not.

Then there is him heavy relying on his family's advice and his faith, which is a problem because all of us also'd rather listen to a random internet forum than to our relatives when faced with serious life choices. Seriously how can you criticize the guy for that stuff? It's not as if you are allowing a poll on the internet decide whether or not to take a job offer or to have an abortion.

Actually, if you did do that, you might not be the peron to give Bushie advice. Get out of this thread!

Sure there's the fetish with dates and feasts and so on, but how normal do you guys think making maps of foreign elections looks to the average person? I know from personal experience (yes, let's go down that road since I won't be the first to make some bogus claims about my own personal experience with mental issues on here) that some idiosyncrasies and/or weird behaviour have never killed a man.

The cat episode isn't that abnormal either: He lost his job, his relationship and the respect of an entire internet bulletin board over the course of a  a couple of months. You'd be emotional for less.
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« Reply #2484 on: December 08, 2010, 09:12:46 am »
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Joe's a dick, I'm a dick, Fezzy's a dick, Smash is a dick, Franzl's a dick, Dukie's a dick, blah blah blah.

We're all dicks, except Phil.  Can we accept this and not have his thread hijacked any further? 
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« Reply #2485 on: December 08, 2010, 09:59:54 am »


But I wonder how much he traps himself into bad situations thinking "God will provide", that's all.

And maybe he does but that goes back to his deeper issues. It doesn't have to do with religion. Of course, whenever I bring this up, I'm told to shut up because it isn't fun if we're not mocking BushOK. We don't want to hear what could be wrong with him.

How about this, you go ahead and tell him that God is going to help him find a job, and I'll stick to the dark and evil side, and he can pick which one. Besides, red is a much better color on me.


I think God guides people; I have never said God will find him a job.

But BushOK essentially has said that, Phil. I basically agree with you that God has a plan for each of us, but the way Bushie seems to implement that creed into his own life is akin to the joke about the guy on his roof waiting for God to save him from the flood.

That said, Bushie, I am genuinely, honestly sorry you lost your job. That totally sucks, and I thought you had really turned a corner. Keep trying, man. But DO NOT wait until after Christmas to job hunt!!!!
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« Reply #2486 on: December 08, 2010, 10:45:11 am »
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can phil start his own thread to bitch at everyone?

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« Reply #2487 on: December 08, 2010, 01:15:46 pm »
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Guys, let's stop bickering with each other and just move on, please?  No side is going to win, so let's just move on.  If this keeps on, I may have to do something drastic like lock the thread.  I don't want to do that!!

I accidentally woke up real late this morning, at 11:45.  I feel like I've slept the day away, because it's already afternoon.  This is unlike me to sleep this long.  I went to bed just after midnight, so maybe I needed the sleep.  Who knows.

Anyway, I did get an e-mail this morning for a Entry-Level Jr. Account Executive with AT&T.  I'm going to call them here in a bit and see about it.  I will surely let you know.
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« Reply #2488 on: December 08, 2010, 01:37:32 pm »
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Okay, it's an Entry-Level Jr. Account Executive position with Legends Marketing here in Oklahoma City that deals with high-level clients such as AT&T, Verizon, and others.  I've got an interview tomorrow morning at 10:00.
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« Reply #2489 on: December 08, 2010, 01:40:57 pm »
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Okay, it's an Entry-Level Jr. Account Executive position with Legends Marketing here in Oklahoma City that deals with high-level clients such as AT&T, Verizon, and others.  I've got an interview tomorrow morning at 10:00.

Read this first.  You're a magnet for this stuff

This report is from September 2010

Bushie, avoid any company or job description that contains the word "marketing"....k?
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« Reply #2490 on: December 08, 2010, 01:47:48 pm »
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Joe's a dick, I'm a dick, Fezzy's a dick, Smash is a dick, Franzl's a dick, Dukie's a dick, blah blah blah.

We're all dicks, except Phil.  Can we accept this and not have his thread hijacked any further? 

Yes, please.  It's not even a conversation about Bushie, it's all about Phil.  Now how does that keep happening?  Hmm...
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« Reply #2491 on: December 08, 2010, 01:49:28 pm »
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Okay, it's an Entry-Level Jr. Account Executive position with Legends Marketing here in Oklahoma City that deals with high-level clients such as AT&T, Verizon, and others.  I've got an interview tomorrow morning at 10:00.

Read this first.  You're a magnet for this stuff

This report is from September 2010

Okay, then, I will tread very carefully.  I received a similar warning like that on facebook just now, one of my friend's boyfriend worked for them and said it was just another door-to-door sales job.

Now, I'm starting to get skeptical about this thing.  I was going to look them up, but you did the dirty work for me.  If I hear rap music blaring, I will turn around and walk right out the door.
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« Reply #2492 on: December 08, 2010, 01:50:04 pm »
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Okay, it's an Entry-Level Jr. Account Executive position with Legends Marketing here in Oklahoma City that deals with high-level clients such as AT&T, Verizon, and others.  I've got an interview tomorrow morning at 10:00.

Read this first.  You're a magnet for this stuff

This report is from September 2010

Okay, then, I will tread very carefully.  I received a similar warning like that on facebook just now, one of my friend's boyfriend worked for them and said it was just another door-to-door sales job.

Now, I'm starting to get skeptical about this thing.  I was going to look them up, but you did the dirty work for me.  If I hear rap music blaring, I will turn around and walk right out the door.

Look at the other link from the woman in September. 
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« Reply #2493 on: December 08, 2010, 01:53:48 pm »
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Okay, it's an Entry-Level Jr. Account Executive position with Legends Marketing here in Oklahoma City that deals with high-level clients such as AT&T, Verizon, and others.  I've got an interview tomorrow morning at 10:00.

Read this first.  You're a magnet for this stuff

This report is from September 2010

Okay, then, I will tread very carefully.  I received a similar warning like that on facebook just now, one of my friend's boyfriend worked for them and said it was just another door-to-door sales job.

Now, I'm starting to get skeptical about this thing.  I was going to look them up, but you did the dirty work for me.  If I hear rap music blaring, I will turn around and walk right out the door.

Look at the other link from the woman in September. 

I wonder if I should even go, then?
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« Reply #2494 on: December 08, 2010, 01:59:55 pm »
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I wonder if I should even go, then?

It seems completely pointless. There's no real job there.
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« Reply #2495 on: December 08, 2010, 02:02:10 pm »
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I wonder if I should even go, then?

It seems completely pointless. There's no real job there.

Agreed, even if you don't believe the ripoff report links, why would your friend on FB tell you anything other than the truth?
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« Reply #2496 on: December 08, 2010, 02:13:16 pm »
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I wonder if I should even go, then?

It seems completely pointless. There's no real job there.

Agreed, even if you don't believe the ripoff report links, why would your friend on FB tell you anything other than the truth?

I'm staying home tomorrow.  As soon as she said that, I started smelling a rat.  I looked at the rip-off reports and that was validated by my friend, who happens to be my Pastor's daughter.

Thanks, Gramps!!
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« Reply #2497 on: December 08, 2010, 03:22:29 pm »
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Most serious jobs don't go looking for you...I think
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« Reply #2498 on: December 08, 2010, 04:07:11 pm »
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Most serious jobs don't go looking for you...I think
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That's probably true.

Again, while I'm not trying to find anything now that will spoil my Christmas, I am also not sitting entirely on the sidelines, either.  As I mentioned earlier, last night, I applied at Conn's Appliance & Electronics, which is a more regionalized version of Best Buy (only in Oklahoma, Texas, and Louisiana).  So, I'm not playing every down in the game, I'm acting like a 3rd down running back right now.

I'm also making a list of places to hit up after the first of the year and starting January 3, I am going to hit those places hot and heavy.
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« Reply #2499 on: December 08, 2010, 04:13:54 pm »
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Bush, why not just take my advice and go sign up for a local grocery chain. They have good opportunities to move up eventually. I'm serious, the food industry is stable employment if you're halfway competent.
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