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« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2004, 08:49:56 PM »

I propose that we admit Canada as the 51st state, and let them decide everything for us, since they have more land area than the US.
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« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2004, 08:50:41 PM »

In my ideal system, only intelligent people would be allowed to vote. Republican landslide, 100%.

So PhDs aren't intelligent?

Do you actually know many Ph D's?

Yes, I do.

And you wouls actually want them to be the entire electorate.

It was a response to Phillips 1/5 of an acre comments. Having a PhD is more of an accomplishment than owning 1/5 of an acre in some desert.

It depends how they got that land.  If someone working for thirty years to buy it, it would be a greater "accomplishment" than someone who's family gives him a lot of money to pursue some minor field.
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« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2004, 08:51:07 PM »

I propose that we admit Canada as the 51st state, and let them decide everything for us, since they have more land area than the US.

I like that idea. Cheesy
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« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2004, 08:51:56 PM »

In my ideal system, only intelligent people would be allowed to vote. Republican landslide, 100%.

So PhDs aren't intelligent?

Do you actually know many Ph D's?

Yes, I do.

And you wouls actually want them to be the entire electorate.

It was a response to Phillips 1/5 of an acre comments. Having a PhD is more of an accomplishment than owning 1/5 of an acre in some desert.

It depends how they got that land.  If someone working for thirty years to buy it, it would be a greater "accomplishment" than someone who's family gives him a lot of money to pursue some minor field.
Yeah, well a lot of time they inheirit the money or land, and how much does 1/5th of an acre of desert cost, anyways?
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« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2004, 08:54:02 PM »

In my ideal system, only intelligent people would be allowed to vote. Republican landslide, 100%.

So PhDs aren't intelligent?

Do you actually know many Ph D's?

Yes, I do.

And you wouls actually want them to be the entire electorate.

It was a response to Phillips 1/5 of an acre comments. Having a PhD is more of an accomplishment than owning 1/5 of an acre in some desert.

It depends how they got that land.  If someone working for thirty years to buy it, it would be a greater "accomplishment" than someone who's family gives him a lot of money to pursue some minor field.

It can go the other way too.  If someone works his butt off for years to get his doctorate in some major field, that would be a greater accomplishment than someone who inherited loads of money and/or land from wealthy parents.
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« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2004, 08:54:19 PM »

I'm illustrating a political reality. You're correct that the U.S. Senate would block them. Doesn't work that way at the state level.

Pretend it's one big state, and the red area is one county.
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« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2004, 08:55:22 PM »

I'm illustrating a political reality. You're correct that the U.S. Senate would block them. Doesn't work that way at the state level.

Pretend it's one big state, and the red area is one county.

I'm from upstate NY, and I wouldn't care if downstate NY has control over the entire state. Yawn.
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« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2004, 08:55:44 PM »

why should 1 million people spread out have more of a say than 1 million people clustered together?
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« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2004, 08:56:52 PM »

why should 1 million people spread out have more of a say than 1 million people clustered together?

Yeah, you know. They seem to get a lot more anti-terrorism money. If I'm a terrorist, where am I going to strike? Rural Wyoming or downtown Manhattan. Hmmm, I don't know....
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« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2004, 08:57:13 PM »

Because the right to rule does not come in numbers
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« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2004, 08:58:05 PM »

according to you it does, just in land.
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« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2004, 08:58:43 PM »

Because the right to rule does not come in numbers

Says who?

I say one penguin 1 vote. Let's admit Antartica.
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« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2004, 09:00:10 PM »

If you're in a community, you deserve some say

If you're not, shut up and mind your own business
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« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2004, 09:00:43 PM »

If you're in a community, you deserve some say

If you're not, shut up and mind your own business

Huh?
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« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2004, 09:01:11 PM »

In my ideal system, only intelligent people would be allowed to vote. Republican landslide, 100%.

So PhDs aren't intelligent?

Do you actually know many Ph D's?

Yes, I do.

And you wouls actually want them to be the entire electorate.

It was a response to Phillips 1/5 of an acre comments. Having a PhD is more of an accomplishment than owning 1/5 of an acre in some desert.

It depends how they got that land.  If someone working for thirty years to buy it, it would be a greater "accomplishment" than someone who's family gives him a lot of money to pursue some minor field.

It can go the other way too.  If someone works his butt off for years to get his doctorate in some major field, that would be a greater accomplishment than someone who inherited loads of money and/or land from wealthy parents.

I agree with both of you (and don't agree with Philip).  However, I do not feel that we should be praising people for a string of post nominal initials after their names (and while it's not a PH D, I do have a string of professional credentials after mine).  We put too much emphasis on it.
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« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2004, 09:02:16 PM »

It's not a city's business what the rest of the land does
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« Reply #41 on: October 22, 2004, 09:03:22 PM »

It's not a city's business what the rest of the land does

Why? Cities subsidize people living in rural areas.
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« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2004, 09:06:06 PM »

The people as a whole pay to spread things like education throughout the state. So what?

House = Everyone
Senate = Landowners
Governor = 24

Millionaires subsidize poor people. I guess we should give everyone 1 vote per dollar they pay.
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« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2004, 09:07:59 PM »

The people as a whole pay to spread things like education throughout the state. So what?

House = Everyone
Senate = Landowners
Governor = 24

Millionaires subsidize poor people. I guess we should give everyone 1 vote per dollar they pay.

Why should land count? Dude, you're crazy.
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« Reply #44 on: October 22, 2004, 09:08:59 PM »

Already posted it
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« Reply #45 on: October 22, 2004, 09:09:59 PM »

The people as a whole pay to spread things like education throughout the state. So what?

House = Everyone
Senate = Landowners
Governor = 24

"24"?

Anyway, I'm still going to persist in saying that in your version, if it was the case, the House should be everyone else, excluding the landowners.  They're not so important that they need double representation.
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« Reply #46 on: October 22, 2004, 09:13:44 PM »

Everyone has double representation. It's called the executive branch. What's important are checks and balances.

House: people at large
Senate: landowners
Governor: 24 years old
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« Reply #47 on: October 22, 2004, 09:18:00 PM »

so why should 18-24 year olds not have a say in the Governor? You're suggesting a system similar to Apartheid-era South Africa.
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« Reply #48 on: October 22, 2004, 09:19:43 PM »

People who have never lived life out on their own shouldn't be given a say in the Executive branch.
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« Reply #49 on: October 22, 2004, 09:23:57 PM »

and no one under 24 has? Geez. Your idea of voting isn't too far off from the systems in some Communist countries.
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