What's got everyone so down?

[Holmes]

Conan's last Tonight show, crappy song being Lady Gaga's next music video, wanting more advanced chem courses now, calculus II.

Those problems all sound less significant than the problem of trying to convince somebody to pay you to do what you want to do anyway (otherwise known as employment).

But didn't you leave for New York on your own?

One week or so.  My housing logistics with my potential roommate got stuck up.  I'm buying my ticket to leave next Saturday no matter what he says, I gots an [unpaid] internship interview on Feb. 2nd that I'm not going to miss for a local campaign.

Instead, I'm finding new TV Shows to be acquainted with, am teaching myself a little HTML, and sending out a shotgun blast of job apps.

But what about porn in India?

Conan's last Tonight show, crappy song being Lady Gaga's next music video, wanting more advanced chem courses now, calculus II.

Gaga's got a new video out?

She's filming Telephone with Beyonce.

[Lunar]

But what about porn in India?

That makes me confused.  Huh?

[Holmes]

But what about porn in India?

That makes me confused.  Huh?

Wait, disregard that, wasn't it Indonesia?

[Meeker]

Conan's last Tonight show, crappy song being Lady Gaga's next music video, wanting more advanced chem courses now, calculus II.

Those problems all sound less significant than the problem of trying to convince somebody to pay you to do what you want to do anyway (otherwise known as employment).

But didn't you leave for New York on your own?

One week or so.  My housing logistics with my potential roommate got stuck up.  I'm buying my ticket to leave next Saturday no matter what he says, I gots an [unpaid] internship interview on Feb. 2nd that I'm not going to miss for a local campaign.

Instead, I'm finding new TV Shows to be acquainted with, am teaching myself a little HTML, and sending out a shotgun blast of job apps.

But what about porn in India?

Conan's last Tonight show, crappy song being Lady Gaga's next music video, wanting more advanced chem courses now, calculus II.

Gaga's got a new video out?

She's filming Telephone with Beyonce.

Ugh. Worst Gaga song ever.

[Lunar]

But what about porn in India?

That makes me confused.  Huh?

Wait, disregard that, wasn't it Indonesia?

Yup, I spent a lot of my academic life on Indonesian anti-pornografi laws .

It's ok, my Mom still calls it "India" too.

[Free Palestine]

No, because unlike you, most of us care that millions of poor people will now die to lack of health care.

Millions of poor people die because of our interventionist foreign policy.  I don't suppose you're shedding a tear for them.

[Free Palestine]

No, because unlike you, most of us care that millions of poor people will now die to lack of health care.

Millions of poor people die because of our interventionist foreign policy.  I don't suppose you're shedding a tear for them.

Yes, but countless more are saved.  Because of our policing the world, their descendants shall enjoy freedom that their ancestors never knew.  But it's much easier to look at statistics and declare intervention a failure.

Remember the World Trade Center?  It would still be here if it wasn't for our interventionist foreign policy.  All of Osama's grievances with the United States had to do with our dicking around in the region.

Four thousand Americans have died in Iraq.  Fifty thousand died in Vietnam.  Thousands more were scarred for life with the horrid images of war.  All because of our interventionist foreign policy - our desire to waste American taxpayer dollars on something that in no way benefits them.  Are the American people the beasts of burden for the entire world?

What gives us the right to interfere with a nation's sovereignty?  Because we can?

[jokerman]

No, because unlike you, most of us care that millions of poor people will now die to lack of health care.

Millions of poor people die because of our interventionist foreign policy.  I don't suppose you're shedding a tear for them.

Yes, but countless more are saved.  Because of our policing the world, their descendants shall enjoy freedom that their ancestors never knew.  But it's much easier to look at statistics and declare intervention a failure.

Remember the World Trade Center?  It would still be here if it wasn't for our interventionist foreign policy.  All of Osama's grievances with the United St]ates had to do with our dicking around in the region.

There wouldn't have ever been a World Trade Center if not for our interventionist foreign policy you myopic moron.

[Free Palestine]

No, because unlike you, most of us care that millions of poor people will now die to lack of health care.

Millions of poor people die because of our interventionist foreign policy.  I don't suppose you're shedding a tear for them.

Yes, but countless more are saved.  Because of our policing the world, their descendants shall enjoy freedom that their ancestors never knew.  But it's much easier to look at statistics and declare intervention a failure.

Remember the World Trade Center?  It would still be here if it wasn't for our interventionist foreign policy.  All of Osama's grievances with the United St]ates had to do with our dicking around in the region.

There wouldn't have ever been a World Trade Center if not for our interventionist foreign policy you myopic moron.

You fail to see my point.  If we had never set foot in the Middle East, 2,973 Americans wouldn't be dead.  By the way, nice ad hominem, bro.

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I can't see any non-sick justification for anywhere from a hundred thousand to a million dead Iraqi civilians.  Nobody asked them if they wanted to die so maybe in the future they could have freedom and democracy and all that sh*t.

[opebo]

No, because unlike you, most of us care that millions of poor people will now die to lack of health care.

You do know that hospitals don't refuse urgent care.  But the dramatic politicization is much more thrilling I suppose.

Urgent care (even if one accepts your dubious claim) is a rather insignificant portion of health care, and most people die through chronic illness.

[JSojourner]

What's got everyone so down?

What was supposed to be the coronation of the new progressive era is now proving to be the opposite. Obama couldn't get anything done in his first year, and anything remotely ambitious in scale will be destroyed. With huge republican gains likely in 2010, there is little chance at any of the big ticket items Democrats have wanted since the 1940s. Now, Obama will either turn into Clinton or Carter, depending on the next few years. Any talk of him being the reincarnation of FDR has been forestalled.

This.  We're down because...once again...the poor, the needy, the hungry and the homeless are pretty much ed.  I am sure that makes YOU happy, Richie...so congrats.  But the rest of us consider it a bad thing. 

[opebo]

...once again...the poor, the needy, the hungry and the homeless are pretty much ed.  I am sure that makes YOU happy, Richie...so congrats.  But the rest of us consider it a bad thing. 

Well more importantly, JSojourner, the whole working-class is ed.  And it is precisely the fact that they differentiate themselves, in their hubris, from the poor, the needy, the hungry, and the homeless which leads to their political suicide.

[jokerman]

No, because unlike you, most of us care that millions of poor people will now die to lack of health care.

Millions of poor people die because of our interventionist foreign policy.  I don't suppose you're shedding a tear for them.

Yes, but countless more are saved.  Because of our policing the world, their descendants shall enjoy freedom that their ancestors never knew.  But it's much easier to look at statistics and declare intervention a failure.

Remember the World Trade Center?  It would still be here if it wasn't for our interventionist foreign policy.  All of Osama's grievances with the United St]ates had to do with our dicking around in the region.

There wouldn't have ever been a World Trade Center if not for our interventionist foreign policy you myopic moron.

You fail to see my point.  If we had never set foot in the Middle East, 2,973 Americans wouldn't be dead.  By the way, nice ad hominem, bro.

You fail to see mine.  ("myopia" is short-sightedness, if I may expand your vocabulary).  Doubtlessly our foreign policy is the generator of many ills, but more importantly it is also the generator of our prosperity.  You can justly criticize it as a machiavellian affair, but don't naively assert that any sort of net good would be achieved by withdrawing from it.

[Psychic Octopus]

What's got everyone so down?

What was supposed to be the coronation of the new progressive era is now proving to be the opposite. Obama couldn't get anything done in his first year, and anything remotely ambitious in scale will be destroyed. With huge republican gains likely in 2010, there is little chance at any of the big ticket items Democrats have wanted since the 1940s. Now, Obama will either turn into Clinton or Carter, depending on the next few years. Any talk of him being the reincarnation of FDR has been forestalled.

This.  We're down because...once again...the poor, the needy, the hungry and the homeless are pretty much ed.  I am sure that makes YOU happy, Richie...so congrats.  But the rest of us consider it a bad thing. 

I am not rich.

[Mint]

You fail to see mine.  ("myopia" is short-sightedness, if I may expand your vocabulary). 

Delightfully condescending as usual, Preston.

[Vepres]

This is all good in the long run. Maybe a third party will get seats in congress

[Mint]

If a serious third party sprung up I doubt you'd like them.

[Free Palestine]

No, because unlike you, most of us care that millions of poor people will now die to lack of health care.

Millions of poor people die because of our interventionist foreign policy.  I don't suppose you're shedding a tear for them.

Yes, but countless more are saved.  Because of our policing the world, their descendants shall enjoy freedom that their ancestors never knew.  But it's much easier to look at statistics and declare intervention a failure.

Remember the World Trade Center?  It would still be here if it wasn't for our interventionist foreign policy.  All of Osama's grievances with the United St]ates had to do with our dicking around in the region.

There wouldn't have ever been a World Trade Center if not for our interventionist foreign policy you myopic moron.

You fail to see my point.  If we had never set foot in the Middle East, 2,973 Americans wouldn't be dead.  By the way, nice ad hominem, bro.

You fail to see mine.  ("myopia" is short-sightedness, if I may expand your vocabulary).  Doubtlessly our foreign policy is the generator of many ills, but more importantly it is also the generator of our prosperity.  You can justly criticize it as a machiavellian affair, but don't naively assert that any sort of net good would be achieved by withdrawing from it.

America was a prosperous country before we started policing the world.  And we had an excellent international reputation.  Nobody was calling for the mass murder of American civilians.  I don't think having a ing iPhone is worth thousands of dead Americans, as well as the many innocent civilians who have died as a result of our foreign policy.

Bill Clinton's Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, said on national television that half a million dead Iraqi children as a result of U.S. sanctions against the country was "worth it."  You can be sure this was broadcast all over the Arab world, contributing to anti-American sentiment in the region.  Are half a million dead Iraqi children worth it, so that we can have our "prosperity"?  Are all the flag-draped coffins being sent home worth it, so that we could have this so-called prosperity?

What about the men, women, and children who died in massacres like My Lai and Haditha?  I suppose those were worth it so our teenagers can have Ugg boots and iPhones.  Your argument is one of imperialism.  It is the same reason for which the European powers carved up most of the world, at the expense of others.

Also, don't insult my intelligence, f-ckwad.

[jokerman]

When exactly do you think we started "policing the world"?

[Free Palestine]

When exactly do you think we started "policing the world"?

After World War II, during the Cold War.  Our foreign policy took a drastic interventionist turn, because we were "fighting communism" and "defending freedom."

[CARLHAYDEN]

No, because unlike you, most of us care that millions of poor people will now die to lack of health care.

Ben,

You keep getting more and more extreme.

[Marokai Backbeat]

By the way, nice ad hominem, bro.

Also, don't insult my intelligence, f-ckwad.

[Free Palestine]

By the way, nice ad hominem, bro.

Also, don't insult my intelligence, f-ckwad.

He was being a dick.

[k-onmmunist]

Marokai can't lecture anyone about personal attacks.

[Antonio the Sixth]

No, because unlike you, most of us care that millions of poor people will now die to lack of health care.