IL Gov: Quinn over Hynes by 4, McKenna by 1 for GOP.

[muon2]

With the primary looming on Feb 2, the Chicago Tribune/WGN-TV has a poll of both primary fields.

Democratic primary (601 likely voters, 4% MOE)
Quinn 44%
Hynes 40%

Republican primary (592 likely voters)
McKenna 19%
Ryan 18%
Dillard 14%
Brady 9%
Andrzejewski 7%
Proft 6%

Schillerstrom dropped out of the race yesterday, but was at 2% in the poll.

[I left.]

Wow, I never would have thought Hynes was that close to Quinn.

Makes me happy to have voted for Quinn...

[I left.]

BTW, I would consider voting for Dillard in the general (especially if Hynes becomes the Democratic nominee).

If it turns into Hynes vs. McKenna/Ryan....I'd probably go for Whitney.

[Wrecking Ball and Chain]

Why don't you like Hynes?

[I left.]

Why don't you like Hynes?

Mostly for personal reasons, I think he's a rat and a complete opportunist...and his attacks on Quinn are shameless.

I suppose I could still come around for Hynes in the general if the Republican is particularly awful...

[OC]

Hynes has proposed a tax on the wealthy and Quinn has a 50% across the board tax hike. I don't think that Hynes is an opportunist.  He wants a more reasonable tax hike instead a more heafty one that will not grow us out of this recession.  I early voted and voted for Hynes. 

[I left.]

Hynes has proposed a tax on the wealthy and Quinn has a 50% across the board tax hike. I don't think that Hynes is an opportunist.  He wants a more reasonable tax hike instead a more heafty one that will not grow us out of this recession.  I early voted and voted for Hynes. 

I think Hynes's tax proposal is actually more sensible....but I canceled out your vote with my absentee ballot

[Tender Branson]

PPP will also have new Illinois numbers this week.

[ill ind]

  What a race for Governor of Illinois on both sides!!!!

We get almost no attention for having a pair of gubenatorial primaries that are absolute barnburners.

I was discussing the race with a co-worker Saturday and we both agreed that both were total chaos.  Nobody knows for sure who is going to win either, and the situation may chang quickly on either side.

Ill_Ind

[hawkeye59]

I think that the Republican Nominee will win the election

[OC]

I do believe Dan Hynes will be the general election opponent for Jack Ryan.

Obama's policies aren't unpopular here in Illinois nor is the stimulus. But the tactics he used was unpopular of primarily focus on health care and not passing it within one year will be called into question. 

I think Dan Hynes pulls it out along with a narrow Giannoulias win.

[I left.]

  What a race for Governor of Illinois on both sides!!!!

We get almost no attention for having a pair of gubenatorial primaries that are absolute barnburners.

I was discussing the race with a co-worker Saturday and we both agreed that both were total chaos.  Nobody knows for sure who is going to win either, and the situation may chang quickly on either side.

Ill_Ind

If you don't mind me asking, who are you supporting?

[ill ind]

PPP's results are now out:

For the Dems

Hynes 41%
Quinn  40%

First poll I've seen with Quinn losing.  Not good news for him.

For the GOP

Dillard 19%
McKenna 17%
Brady 16%
Ryan 13%
Andre...ski 11%
Proft 7%

Dillard appears to have a bump (and a huge $250,000 check) form his Ill Education Assn endorsement and has some momentum.  McKenna is spending buck like nobodys business and is in the hunt. (putting another $400,000 of his own cash in yesterday) This is the highest I've seen Brady post.  He has a downstate constituency.  If they show up and Chicago doesn't this could get interesting.  Ryan as a 2002 retread is quickly fading--and doesn't have the bucks to compete anymore.

Still pretty fluid and appears to hold alot of interest.

Ill_Ind

[I left.]

I wouldn't really mind Dillard becoming governor.

[muon2]

  What a race for Governor of Illinois on both sides!!!!

We get almost no attention for having a pair of gubenatorial primaries that are absolute barnburners.

I was discussing the race with a co-worker Saturday and we both agreed that both were total chaos.  Nobody knows for sure who is going to win either, and the situation may chang quickly on either side.

Ill_Ind

I am also impressed at the lack of national attention this race is getting. You'd think that a primary one week away and a sitting governor in jeopardy with two polls released would draw some media. I see that HuffPo noted the Trib poll yesterday, so perhaps the word is getting out. I was in DC yesterday and I was asked by some DC observers what my thoughts were on the gov races, some there are individuals taking note at that level as well.

[ill ind]

  One of the big fat unknowns over the Illinois Governor's race is who the running mates are going to be.

  There are 6 Dems and 6 GOPers in the race for Lieutenant Governor and some of the candidates are real 'hum dingers'

  It blows my mind that pawnbroker Scott Lee Cohen has spent over 1.7 million of his own money, and that 27 year old political novice Jason Plummer has spent over 1.2 million of his own money in pursuit of this office.

  The Dem's party organization backed candidate Art Turner has raised a little over $15,000 in contributions over $500 in the past month compared to Cohen's wad.

  Matt Murphy who is being aided immensely by the McKenna gubenetorial campaign has nothing compared to Plummer's bankroll.

  There are lots of 'regional' candidates such as Brad Cole, Terry Link, Mike Boland, Matt Murphy to some degree and so forth who will do well in certain parts of the state.

  Then there is State Rep Arthur Turner Sr and State Sen Rickey Hendon feuding over the Chicago west side vote.

This race, on both sides, is like the Gov's race a total wildcard.  Since the Lite Gov runs together with the Guv on a single ballot spot come November, this could really shake things up a bit too.

Ill_Ind

[Lіef]

Who is objectively better, people who follow Illinois politics? Quinn or Hynes? Elections are boring unless I have some reason to be emotionally involved with one or the other.

[I left.]

Who is objectively better, people who follow Illinois politics? Quinn or Hynes? Elections are boring unless I have some reason to be emotionally involved with one or the other.

Depends what you care about. Hynes has a progressive tax proposal, Quinn wants to raise the current flat tax in Illinois. Both candidates want to extend the capital punishment moratorium, both candidates support gay rights, although Quinn has said the legislature wouldn't pass full gay marriage.

I support Quinn, and voted for him, because he has shown that he is an honest and trustworthy man. He is being subjected to extremely unfair attacks by Hynes the opportunist...such as his role in the prison early release program.

Since the DINOs in Congress prevented Quinn's tax cuts from being passed last year, he has been forced to make stupid cuts.

Not to mention that not being corrupt is already a pretty good reason to re-election an incumbent Governor in Illinois.

[OC]

Ras poll has the Democratic primary in favor of Hynes and the GOP primary in favor of Mckenna

Pat Quinn
 37%
 
Dan Hynes
 43%
 
Some other candidate
 6%
 
Not sure
 14%
 

With one week left Hynes is the frontrunner now, not Quinn.
www.rasmussenreports.com

[ill ind]

Rasmussen's numbers for the GOP

McKenna 20%
Jim Ryan 16%
Dillard 13%
Brady 11%
Andre...ski 11%
Proft 8%
Somebody else 4%
Undecided 17% (has been at 17% for 3 polls straight)

Still anybody's ballgame

Ill_Ind

[I left.]

If Hynes wins, I will not vote Democratic in the general election. That's a promise.

Whether I go Republican or Green remains to be seen....

[OC]

Hynes has more money than Quinn and he certainly will have more than Andy McKenna.  The Lt. Governors race is where I will be watching the most and how it can have an influence in the Gov's race.

[I left.]

Hynes progressive tax only kicks in at $200,000. When I said I prefered his progressive system, I wasn't fully aware that it was this useless.

Every dollar you earn from $0 - $200,000 would be taxed at 3%
Every dollar you earn from $200,000 - $300,000 would be taxed at 3.5%
Every dollar you earn from $300,000 - $500,000 would be taxed at 5.5%
Every dollar you earn from $500,000 - $1,000,000 would be taxed at 7%
Every dollar you earn from $1,000,000+ would be taxed at 7.5%.

Yeah...I mean, I know it's left-wing philosophy to tax the hell out of those rich bastards, but how many people do you really think make these amounts?

I can't imagine this proposal generating as much revenue as Hynes is claming.

[OC]

Oregon just voted on a referendum to allow higher taxed income earners to be taxed higher, similar to the same plan as Hynes.  The tax proposal need to be debated and it will be when it comes up for a vote.

And by the way the tax proposal will relate to buisnesses as well as higher wage income earners. So, its on businesses as well.

[I left.]

So, its on businesses as well.

Bad, very bad. Taxes on businesses are the last thing that should be raised.