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J. J.
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« on: October 23, 2004, 10:06:50 PM »

Terrorists killed 22 Iraqis today. 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6276868/

How happy are those 22, Freedumbburns?
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J. J.
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2004, 11:36:18 PM »

In war, innocent people die.  That newsflash is probably pre-Sumarian.  When you cite one side and not the other you are being biased.
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J. J.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2004, 11:55:48 PM »

In war, innocent people die.  That newsflash is probably pre-Sumarian.  When you cite one side and not the other you are being biased.

that doesn't make it right and seems like a vaild argument against war.

Is it a valid argument against World War II, the Civil War, or the American Revolution?
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2004, 09:12:10 AM »

Personally I think the American Revolution was an overreaction, the colonists were actually taxed much less than British citizens.

The other two however were essential wars to save the world from fascist domination and preserve the union and end slavery. Nothing here. All the money wasted on Iraq should've been spent on healthcare here. The Iraqis get free healthcare under their new government, Americans first!

Please remember to vote from "Prime Minister" in 9 days.

Please also ask it, because innocents were killed, it made either the Civil War and WWII less "worth it."
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2004, 11:24:12 AM »

In war, innocent people die.  That newsflash is probably pre-Sumarian.  When you cite one side and not the other you are being biased.

that doesn't make it right and seems like a vaild argument against war.

Is it a valid argument against World War II, the Civil War, or the American Revolution?

For some reason I am having a very difficult time equating the Iraq War with our American Revolutionary war for independence.


freedomburns

I'm not equating, but BRTD ask it if was a valid argument against "war."  My answer is, that is the price of war.  You, I take it, would would consider it to be worth the price in the case of the American Revolution.  Whether or not innocents are killed, as usually is the case, is not the question.

The question is, is the killing of the innocent worth the price of removing that regime.  If pushed, I'd probably say yes.
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J. J.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2004, 01:48:17 PM »

Do the Iraqis not deserve freedom? Do you really think that Iraqis wanted Saddam in power?

Yes, of course the great majority of Sunnis wanted Saddam in power.

A great majority of the minority, even if accurate.
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J. J.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2004, 08:25:34 PM »

Terrorists killed 22 Iraqis today. 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6276868/

How happy are those 22, Freedumbburns?

To you, those were terrorists killing innocents.  To the other side - they were freedom fighters killing collaborators.  Whats the difference - point of view.  There is no qualitative difference.

Sixteen were in the police/armed forces.  What about the other six?
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J. J.
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2004, 08:31:44 PM »


Saddam's goons intentionally kill hundreds of thousands of civilians.


Have the Bush apologists ever quantified their claims about SH killing people extra-legally.

To get these huge numbers are they counting people killed as part of the Iran-Iraq War? Are they counting people convicted in court and executed?

You could quite possibly be talking about over 1 million killed if you factor in the Iran-Iraq War.

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/war-list.htm
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