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« on: January 26, 2010, 04:08:57 PM »
« edited: February 13, 2010, 07:24:02 PM by tb75 »

After deciding not to order the break in at the Watergate, Richard Nixon cruised to a landslide victory in the 1972 Presidential Election over Senator George McGovern.
Nixon had many successes in the domestic and foreign front:
•   The Vietnam War ended in a victory for the US Forces. The President made the decision to nuclear bomb the strong points of the communist military forces. Despite Victory, the President must still continue to slowly gain the public’s respect back lost during the war.
•   President Nixon continued to develop better relations with China and the USSR. Nixon has kept his eye on the Middle East due to growing tensions between several different countries in the region.
•   President Nixon passed a compressive health care plan, with help from congressional leaders in both parties including Surprisingly Ted Kennedy.
•   Inflation and the deficit however is the main domestic issue after Health Care. Despite cutting taxes for the two lower classes, and a large increase in taxes for the higher classes led to small decreases for both.
•   Vice President Spiro Agnew resigned due to income tax fraud. President Nixon chose former Secretary of the Treasury John Connally as his new VP.


Despite all of the troubles and successes Nixon Is regarded as a good president with his current approval rating of 60%. But the election is looking to be an interesting one for the first time since 1968.
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2010, 04:12:11 PM »

I'm assuming unemployment is still about 8% due to Nixon saving Israel in the Yom Kippur War? If so, Republicans could have a real challenge holding the WH in 1976.
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2010, 04:15:40 PM »

I feel like this is a tad to optimistic and extreme. Nuking Vietnam?
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2010, 04:17:23 PM »

Unemployment is at Rl's 1975-1976 level. As for the Nukes, Nixon decided the hell with it and just nuked them.
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2010, 06:11:30 PM »

January 25th, 1976: With both the Democratic and Republican Primaries two days away and no clear front runner the Iowa caucus is wide open. The real surprise is Senator Ted Kennedy’s entry into the race, but not registering for the Iowa caucus, instead signing up for the New Hampshire Primary.

Democratic Candidates:
Senator Ted Kennedy
Governor Jerry Brown
Governor George Wallace
Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson

Republican Candidates:
Vice President John Conally
Former Governor Ronald Reagan
Governor Nelson Rockefeller



Coming Up: Iowa Caucus

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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2010, 06:36:09 PM »


January 27th, 1976: Iowa Caucus for both Parties
Democratic: Jerry Brown 41%
Frank Church 31%
George Wallace 27%

Despite Ted Kennedy not entering the Iowa caucus, voters turned out. And in an upset, Governor Jerry Brown wins due to his outsider status, even though Frank Church gave him a battle. George Wallace was not even a contender, but he did get a good chunk of votes.


Governor Jerry Brown, winner of Iowa Caucus



Republican: Ronald Reagan 29%
John Conally 28%
Nelson Rockefeller 23%
Harold Stassen 20%

Former Governor Reagan pulled out a upset over Vice President Conally due to heavy campaigning from Governor Reagan, and hardly no campaigning from Conally






January 1976 in News:

President Nixon announces a plan to convert the United States to the Metric System
The Philadelphia Flyers beat the Soviet Red Army Hockey team in an exhibition game
The Pittsburgh Steelers beat The Dallas Cowboys in Super Bowl 10


Up Next: The NH primaries
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2010, 06:52:17 PM »

Febuary 24th, 1976: New Hampshire Primaries
Democratic: Ted Kennedy 50%
Jerry Brown 20%
Scoop Jackson 20%
George Wallace 10%

After skipping the Iowa caucus, and instead focusing on the next two primaries Ted Kennedy wins in a landslide.





Republican: Nelson Rockefeller 40%
John Conally 39%
Ronald Reagan 21%

Nelson Rockefeller wins a close primary over Vice President Conally.





February 1976 in News:
The 1976 Winter Olympics is held
Cuba adopts a new constitution
Two pieces of Legislation are passed: The Railroad Revitalization and Regulatory Reform Act and
The Government in the Sunshine Act
Up Next: The next two primaries
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2010, 08:46:17 PM »

Nuking Vietnam would not bring 60% approval ratings.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2010, 08:57:46 PM »

It brought a end to the war, which made the public happy.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2010, 09:05:43 PM »

It brought a end to the war, which made the public happy.

How come the USSR didn't retaliate?
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2010, 09:09:14 PM »

lol Nuking Vietnam lol
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2010, 09:14:01 PM »

Like  is said earlier, Nixon said to hell with this war and nuked Vietnam. The only one pissed was the USSR, but after getting ready to bomb them, they agreed to diplomatic relations, and stopped the conflict before it started.
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2010, 09:18:00 PM »

March 2nd 1976: More primaries

 Mass Democratic Primary: Ted Kennedy 80%
The win was no surprise due to this being Kennedy’s home state.

Mass Republican: Nelson Rockefeller 50%
It was close at first, but Rockefeller pulled it off. The real battle was for second in which the vice president won.

Vermont Democratic Primary( No Delegates at stake): Ted Kennedy 50%
Vermont Republican Primary( No Delegates at stake):  Nelson Rockefeller 50%

The two Vermont primaries are beauty contests,  in which no delegates are given. Both of the primaries turned out to be close ones.
Washington Democratic Primaries: Jerry Brown 65%
The primary was a  great one for Jerry Brown’s campaign.

Washington Republican primary: Ronald Reagan 60%
The Victory was also a great one for Reagan’s campaign.

Republican Map:




Democratic Map:


March 1976 news:

After two mining explosions in Kentucky, President Nixon urges that Congress passes new safety laws for miners.

Harold Wilson resigns as England's Prime Minster

Rubin "Hurricane" Carter is retried in New Jersey

Patty Hurst is found guilty of armed robbery

The Tronto Blue jays are created.
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2010, 12:16:00 AM »

Go Jerry!
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2010, 03:58:37 PM »

Rest of Primaries from March:

Hawaii Democratic: Jerry Brown 30%
South Carolina Republican: John Conally 40%
Wyoming Democratic: Ted Kennedy 50%
Florida Democratic: George Wallace 60%
Florida Republican: John Conally 50%
Illinois Democratic: Ted Kennedy 60%
Illinois Republican: Nelson Rockefeller 50%
Kansas Republican: John Conally 60%
Connecticut Republican: Nelson Rockefeller 60%
North Carolina Democratic: George Wallace 65%
North Carolina Republican: Ronald Reagan 40%
Mississippi Republican Primaries: John Conally 60%
Maine Republican: Nelson Rockefeller 70%

Democratic Map:


Republican Map:




Coming Up: April Primaries

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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2010, 05:09:13 PM »

You clearly have no idea about cold war politics my friend.
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2010, 05:10:31 PM »

I agree, that's why i am currently in US History
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2010, 05:11:14 PM »

April primaries:

Kansas Democratic Winner: Ted Kennedy 50%
Virginia Democratic Winner: George Wallace 60%
Oklahoma Republican: John Conally 65%
New York Democratic: Jerry Brown 41%- Jerry Brown pulls out the upset of the primary season, over favorite Ted Kennedy. This is due to low turnout.
New York Republican: Nelson Rockefeller 80%- No surprise due to being his home state.
Wisconsin Democratic: Jerry Brown 50%
Wisconsin Republican: Ronald Reagan 60%
Missouri Republican: Ronald Reagan 50%
Missouri Democratic: Ted Kennedy 60%
New Mexico Democratic: Jerry Brown 50%
Arizona Democratic: Jerry Brown 50%
New Mexico Republican: John Conally 50%
North Dakota Democratic: Ted Kennedy 69%
Pennsylvania Democratic: Ted Kennedy 65%
Pennsylvania Republican:  Ronald Reagan 50%

April 1976:
Apple Computer Company is founded
James Callaghan becomes England’s new Prime Minister
The Ramones record their first album

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Republican Map:



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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2010, 09:31:53 PM »
« Edited: January 29, 2010, 09:33:37 PM by Mr. Crowley »

No way would Jerry Brown beat Ted Kennedy in New York.

Also, Rockefeller's margin of victory would probably be more Like 60-20-20 in New York. (not exactly even, you toy with the numbers.)
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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2010, 11:08:49 PM »

Jerry didn't make the Jesse Jackson comment like he did in 92, NY is sorta winnable for him, atleast by plurality
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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2010, 11:10:05 PM »

Go Jerry Brown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2010, 11:16:32 PM »

Jerry didn't make the Jesse Jackson comment like he did in 92, NY is sorta winnable for him, atleast by plurality
In a region with so many irish catholics, in New England, where the Kennedy name reigns Supreme? I read somewhere that part of why Scoop Jackson won the New York primary in 76 was in part due to Ted Kennedy's endorsement. No way is some pacific-coast tax-cutter going to beat Kennedy in New York, as much as I despise the man.
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2010, 10:17:03 AM »

Jerry didn't make the Jesse Jackson comment like he did in 92, NY is sorta winnable for him, atleast by plurality
In a region with so many irish catholics, in New England, where the Kennedy name reigns Supreme? I read somewhere that part of why Scoop Jackson won the New York primary in 76 was in part due to Ted Kennedy's endorsement. No way is some pacific-coast tax-cutter going to beat Kennedy in New York, as much as I despise the man.

True. Also, while this TL is good, the nuking and the sucess of Jerry are absolutley never going to happen ever.
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« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2010, 01:30:49 PM »

The element of surprise is what i am going for in this TL.
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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2010, 04:06:52 PM »

Current Delegate Counts:

Democratic:  Kennedy- 667
                      Brown- 485
                      Wallace- 288

Republican: Conally- 240
                     Reagan- 380
                     Rockefeller- 392

On the democratic Side, Ted Kennedy is leading, but Jerry brown is surprising a lot of people with his outsider image, and his surprising delegate total
On the Republican Side, despite not winning any of the prior primaries, Nelson Rockefeller is leading, but Reagan and Connally is fighting for delegates.
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