No Vietnam

[LBJ Revivalist]

Had Vietnam not happened, but the Great Society did, what do you think would've happened? Would LBJ have run for re-election and been re-elected? Would the Hippie movement have been born anyway? What about after the '60s? What would've happend then?

[Bo]

If Vietnam did not occur, either LBJ (I'm not sure if he would run due to poor health) or Humphrey wins in 1968, as the economy was good and the U.S. wouldn't be involved in any foreign wars. The Hippie Movement/Counterculture would have been born eventually anyway, just at a different time and due to a different reason.

[Proud Lieberal from Northeast]

Without Vietnam counterculture still shall rise, but diffrent way and maybe later. Economy would be in good shape. Still I can see race riots.

Johnson gets re-elected and serve out the second term, as I'd give him additional years without Vietnam stress.

[N.i.K.]

Well, I'd assume the cause of this would be less intervention by Kennedy & LBJ.

President Lyndon B. Johnson is able to win re-election quite easily over Richard Nixon, but in a less decisive way then 1964. His broad focus on domestic affairs allow him to push other ambitious measures. Abroad, Johnson would have to make harsh words towards communism, as he was critically worried about his legacy there. He probably would funnel money towards other Democratic allies in the region, to prevent a "domino effect".

Counterculture still arises, but it isn't attributed to anti-war and anti-Johnson feeling. Rather, it is a socially liberal movement that tried to enact pressure on Johnson and the Democrats to push for more social programs. RFK and Martin Luther King live to a ripe old ages, as without Vietnam his assassination wouldn't have been possible. I'd envision a far less toned down tune then the RL Late Sixties.

Due to Johnson's popularity, I see HHH succeeding him in 1973, and serving until 1977. But, then, I'd imagine Reagan, or some other charismatic Republican, sweeping HHH and the Democrats out of office in the 1976 elections. He probably serves a full term, and has his successor succeed him. National confidence is much higher throughout the time, radiating off the nation. After that, it is difficult to say.

US Presidents, 1963-Present

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat, 1963-1973)
37. Hubert Humphrey (Democrat, 1973-1977)
38. Ronald Reagan (Republican, 1977-1985)
39. Howard Baker (Republican, 1985-1989)
40. John Glenn (Democrat, 1989-1997)
41. Bill Clinton (Democrat, 1997-2001)
42. Fred Thompson (Republican, 2001-2009)
43. John F. Kennedy. Jr. (Democrat, 2009-Present)

[jokerman]

Hmm, there's some elements of the war in Vietnam that were part of broader, greater trends with American politics.  It's quite possible had not Vietnam been Vietnam, some other third world country would have been Vietnam.  LBJ understood this whenever he escalated the war, an act he personally considered inevitable.

[Bo]

President Lyndon B. Johnson is able to win re-election quite easily over Richard Nixon, but in a less decisive way then 1964.

I seriously doubt Nixon would have ran in 1968 without Vietnam. He didn't want another loss to further tarnish his legacy and reputation.

[N.i.K.]

President Lyndon B. Johnson is able to win re-election quite easily over Richard Nixon, but in a less decisive way then 1964.

I seriously doubt Nixon would have ran in 1968 without Vietnam. He didn't want another loss to further tarnish his legacy and reputation.

Nixon was planning on running as early as 1965. Vietnam or no Vietnam, he would win. It wuldn't be one of those "automatically decided" landslides, more along the lines of 1988. I think the election, nationally, would have given LBJ a four point win over Nixon.

[Bo]

President Lyndon B. Johnson is able to win re-election quite easily over Richard Nixon, but in a less decisive way then 1964.

I seriously doubt Nixon would have ran in 1968 without Vietnam. He didn't want another loss to further tarnish his legacy and reputation.

Nixon was planning on running as early as 1965. Vietnam or no Vietnam, he would win. It wuldn't be one of those "automatically decided" landslides, more along the lines of 1988. I think the election, nationally, would have given LBJ a four point win over Nixon.

I read Nixon was having serious doubts about running as late as 1967.

[Beet]

Jane Fonda enjoys a reputation more commensurate with her actual (impressive) achievements and talents.

[State Comptroller Atkins]

LBJ wins re-election fairly easily.

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat, 1963-1973)
37. Hubert Humphrey (Democrat, 1973-1977)
38. Ronald Reagan (Republican, 1977-1981)
39. Ted Kennedy (Democrat, 1981-1989)
40. Lloyd Bentsen (Democrat, 1989-1993)
41. Bob Dole (Republican, 1993-2001)
42. John McCain (Republican, 2001-2009)
43. Barack Obama (Democrat, 2009-Present)

[hawkeye59]

LBJ wins re-election fairly easily.

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat, 1963-1973)
37. Hubert Humphrey (Democrat, 1973-1977)
38. Ronald Reagan (Republican, 1977-1981)
39. Ted Kennedy (Democrat, 1981-1989)
40. Lloyd Bentsen (Democrat, 1989-1993)
41. Bob Dole (Republican, 1993-2001)
42. John McCain (Republican, 2001-2009)
43. Barack Obama (Democrat, 2009-Present)

Realistic.

[N.i.K.]

President Lyndon B. Johnson is able to win re-election quite easily over Richard Nixon, but in a less decisive way then 1964.

I seriously doubt Nixon would have ran in 1968 without Vietnam. He didn't want another loss to further tarnish his legacy and reputation.

Nixon was planning on running as early as 1965. Vietnam or no Vietnam, he would win. It wuldn't be one of those "automatically decided" landslides, more along the lines of 1988. I think the election, nationally, would have given LBJ a four point win over Nixon.

I read Nixon was having serious doubts about running as late as 1967.

He was, but it was his ambition and his only (realistic) shot.