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« on: February 08, 2010, 04:20:07 PM »
« edited: February 12, 2010, 10:06:40 AM by Senator Hans-im-Glück »

I want to start a new Survivor with "very likabel" people Wink

Hitlers Helper Survivor

I'd my own list, but fab send me his list of important Nazi (NSDAP, SA, SS, Wehrmacht etc.) and I found his better than my own.

This are 100 names and I put them in 4 groups:

Group A

Werner BEST   Obergruppenführer SS, head of Personnel office in the RSHA, plenipotentiary to Denmark
Martin BORMANN   Reichsleiter, head of party chancellery, personal secretary of the Führer
Karl BRANDT   Commissionner for Health and Sanitation, personal physician of Hitler
Kurt DALUEGE   Oberstgruppenführer SS, head of Order Police, governor of Bohemia and Moravia
Richard Walther DARRE   Reichsleiter, head of Race and Settlement Office, Minister of Food and Agriculture
Josef "Sepp" DIETRICH   Oberstgruppenführer SS, commander of the Leibstandarte-SS-Adolf Hitler
Adolf EICHMANN   Obersturmbannführer SS, head of the office for Jewish affairs in the RSHA
Franz Ritter von EPP   Reichsleiter, Governor of Bavaria
Adolf GALLAND   General, commander of fighter force
Hans JÜTTNER   Obergruppenführer SS, head of the SS Main Leadership Office
Robert LEY   Reichsleiter, head of the Labour Front
Heinz LINGE   Hitler's valet
Wilhelm KEITEL   Generalfeldmarschall, commander of the OKW
Erich KOCH   Gauleiter of East Prussia, governor of Ukraine, governor of Bialystok
Erich von MANSTEIN   Generalfeldmarschall, commander of army groups
Franz von PAPEN   vice-chancellor, ambassador
Leni RIEFENSTAHL   film director
Bernhard RUST   Minister of Science, Education and National Culture, Gauleiter of Hannover
Hjalmar SCHACHT   Economics Minister, president of the Reichsbank
Julius SCHAUB   Obergruppenführer SS, Hitler's aide and adjutant
Gustav-Adolf SCHEEL   Gauleiter of Salzburg, leader of Nazi Students League
Arthur SEYSS-INQUART   governor of Austria, governor of the Netherlands
Albert SPEER   Minister of Armaments and War Production
Julius STREICHER   Gauleiter of Franconia
Hans von TSCHAMMER und OSTEN   head of Sports League

Group B

Artur AXMANN   Reichsleiter, head of the Hitler Youth
Karl DÖNITZ   Grossadmiral, commander of the Kriegsmarine, commander of submarine forces
Odilo GLOBOCNIK   Obergruppenführer SS, Gauleiter of Vienna, SS and police head in Lublin district
Joseph GOEBBELS   Reichsleiter, Gauleiter of Berlin, Propaganda Minister
Otto GÜNSCHE   Sturmbannführer SS, Hitler's adjutant
Franz GÜRTNER   Minister of Justice
Paul HAUSSER   Oberstgruppenführer SS, inspector of the SS-VT, commander of "Das Reich" division
Konstantin HIERL   Reichsleiter, head of the Labour Service, Secretary of State
Ernst HANFSTAENGL   head of foreign press bureau
August HEISSMEYER   Obergruppenführer SS, head of the SS Main Office, inspector of National Political Institutes of Education
Alfred JODL   GeneralOberst, chief of staff of the OKW
Ernst KALTENBRUNNER   Obergruppenführer SS, chief of the RSHA
Hans LAMMERS   chief of the cabinet chancellery, Minister
Viktor LUTZE   Reichsleiter, commander of the SA
Emil MAURICE   commander of the SA, founder of the SS, Hitler's bodyguard
Alfred MEYER   Gauleiter of Lippe, deputy Minister for occupied Eastern Territories
Theodor MORELL   personal physician of Hitler
Heinrich MÜLLER   Gruppenführer SS, head of the Gestapo
Joachim von RIBBENTROP   Foreign Minister
Gerd von RUNDSTEDT   Generalfeldmarschall, commander of Western Front, commander of army group
Walter SCHELLENBERG   Brigadeführer SS, head of external intelligence offcie in the RSHA, commander of Abwehr
Wilhelm STUCKART   Obergruppenführer SS, Interior Secretary of State
Josef TERBOVEN   governor of Norway, Gauleiter of Essen
Fritz THYSSEN   CEO Thyssen, chairman of the Association of German Industry and of Iron & Steel Industry Association
Adolf WAGNER   Gauleiter of Munich and Upper Bavaria, Bavarian Interior and Culture Minister

Group C

Erich von dem BACH-ZELEWSKI   Obergruppenführer SS, SS and police head in Silesia and Russia, commander of anti-partisan units
Werner von BLOMBERG   Generalfeldmarschall, Minister of Defense and War, commander of armed forces
Eva BRAUN   Hitler's mistress and wife
Wilhelm BRÜCKNER   Hitler's chief adjutant
Josef BÜRCKEL   Gauleiter of Vienna, governor of Austria, Gauleiter of Westmark
Wilhelm CANARIS   Admiral, commander of Abwehr
Otto DIETRICH   Reichsleiter, Press chief of the NSDAP
Theodor EICKE   Obergruppenführer SS, inspector of concentration camps, commander of SS-Totenkopf division
Karl-Hermann FRANK   Obergruppenführer SS, Minister for Bohemia and Moravia, SS and police head in Bohemia and Moravia
Hermann GÖRING   Reichsmarschall, President of the Reichstag, Air and Forestry Minister, head of Luftwaffe, Prime Minister of Prussia
Heinz GUDERIAN   GeneralOberst, chief of staff of the OKH, inspector of armoured troops
Reinhard HEYDRICH   Obergruppenführer SS, chief of the RSHA, governor of Bohemia and Moravia
Emil JANNINGS   Official "Artist of the State"
Gustav KRUPP   CEO Krupp, chairman of the Association of German Industrialists
Werner LORENZ   Obergruppenführer SS, head of the office of repatriation of ethnic Germans
Otto MEISSNER   chief of the Presidential chancellery, Minister
Arthur NEBE   Gruppenführer SS, head of Criminal Police
Erich RAEDER   Grossadmiral, commander of the Kriegsmarine
Ernst RÖHM   commander of the SA
Alfred ROSENBERG   Reichsleiter, Minister for occupied Eastern territories, head of Nazi ideological and educational research center
Franz Xaver SCHWARZ   Reichsleiter, Oberstgruppenführer SS, treasurer of the NSDAP
Julius SCHRECK   Reichsführer SS, Hitler's chauffeur and bodyguard
Lutz Graf SCHWERIN von KROSIGK   Finance Minister
Fritz TODT   Minister for Armaments, head of the Organization Todt, inspector for roadways
Karl WOLFF   Obergruppenführer SS, chief of staff of the Reichsführer, SS and police head in Italy

Group D

Max AMANN   Reichsleiter of the Press, Obergruppenführer SS, president of the Media chamber, publisher
Gottlob BERGER   Obergruppenführer SS, head of the SS Main Office
Philipp BOUHLER   Reichsleiter, Obergruppenführer SS, chief of Hitler's party chancellery, head of literature inspection commission
Hermann FEGELEIN   Obergruppenführer SS, commander of SS cavalry division, Hitler's brother-in-law
Karl FIEHLER   Reichsleiter, chief of the office for Municipal Politics, mayor of Munich
Hans FRANK   Reichsleiter, Obergruppenführer SS, governor of General Government in Poland
Roland FREISLER   Secretary of State for Justice, president of the People's Court
Wilhelm FRICK   Reichsleiter, Interior Minister, governor of Bohemia and Moravia
Walther FUNK   Economics Minister, president of the Reichsbank, Secretary of State for Propaganda
Franz HALDER   Generaloberst, chief of staff of the OKH, inspector of armoured troops
Rudolf HESS   Reichsleiter, deputy Führer
Heinrich HIMMLER   Reichsführer SS, head of Police, Interior Minister, head of Reserve Army
Heinrich HOFFMANN   Hitler's photographer
Erich KEMPKA   Hitler's chauffeur and bodyguard
Albert KESSELRING   Generalfeldmarschall, commander of South Front, commander of air forces and army group
Hinrich LOHSE   Gauleiter of Schleswig-Holstein, governor of Ostland, chairman of Nordic Association
Josef MENGELE, medical officer of Auschwitz-Birkenau and member of the Waffen-SS
Konstantin von NEURATH   Foreign Minister, protector fo Bohemia and Moravia
Otto OHLENDORF   Gruppenführer SS, commander of Einsatzgruppe D, head of counter-intelligence and inside intelligence bureau in the RSHA
Oswald POHL   Obergruppenführer SS, head of SS Bureau for Economic administration and concentration camps
Erwin ROMMEL   Generalfeldmarschall, commander of AfrikaKorps, commander of army group
Fritz SAUCKEL   governor of Thuringia, Gauleiter of Thuringia, head of Labour Deployment
Baldur von SCHIRACH   Reichsleiter, head of the Hitler Youth, Gauleiter of Vienna
Gertrud SCHOLTZ-KLINK   head of the Nazi Woman's League
Franz SELDTE   Labour Minister

First I want to elimante 15 in every group. From the rest I build 2 Groups á 20 Nazis. Then we eliminate 10 and build a final Group with 20 of this nice people.

Maybe we forget one important, or you have an objection against one Nazi who is on the list.

I'm happy for every help Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010, 04:42:26 PM »

All right!
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2010, 03:57:42 AM »
« Edited: February 09, 2010, 04:05:57 AM by big bad fab »

Of course, I have no objection towards the lists Wink !

Just to say that I've tried to balance the groups between
- military, NSDAP and sister organizations, SS and police guys, administrative and ministerial bigwigs, "private" circle of Hitler,
- utterly bad, very bad and "simply" bad
- first circle, intermediate levels and smaller aides.

What I find good in this type of survivors is that there is no room for partisan hacking and stupid fights around current leaders while old ones are unknown... if you see what I mean !

So, good luck Hans, this will be a very interesting survivor.

And thanks for managing it and having the heavy burden of posting results, photos, etc.



EDIT: oh, I have one little objection, it's the title: "helper" isn't very appealing for those who aren't survivor maniacs...
I thought about "satraps", but it only deals with Gauleiters, NSDAP and SS men.

What about "faithfuls" ?
Just an idea, though.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2010, 02:19:42 PM »

Das Oberkommando des Hitler's Helper Survivor gibt bekannt:

The highcommand of the Hitler's Helper survivor (OKHHS) announce:

if there are any further suggestions or objections, I will start tomorrow with the game.

There will be the usual rules like in the other Survivors. In the case of a tie it counts the previous votes in the rounds before. Is then still a tie, I am, the Führer of this Survivor will decide.

First Phase: 4 Groups à 25 Nazis (we eliminate 15 of them)
Second Phase: 2 Groups à 20 Nazis (we eliminate 10 of them)
Final Phase: 1 Group with 20 Nazis

I will make from time to time a Round with special rules.
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2010, 04:51:03 PM »

Oh my, It will be torture reading about these guys, they are all friggin horrendous Grin

Looks good Wink
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2010, 11:08:50 AM »

Das Oberkommando des Hitler's Helper Survivor gibt bekannt:

I declare this Survivor open.

I think in the first Round we will see no big surprise. In every Group it gives a favourite.

There are very terrible people in this Survivor Wink

Have fun Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2010, 11:10:28 AM »

Yay, it's open !
Enjoy !

There might be some surprises in the first round... Wink
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2010, 10:05:22 AM »

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In two Groups it was a clear victory for Heydrich and Goebbels. Eichmann wins only with one vote ans Mengerle vs. Himmler was a tie. I decide that Himmler is out, but I'm sure Mengerle isn't long in this game.

The Results of Round 1

Group A

Eichmann 5, Streicher 4





Group B

Goebbels 6, Müller 1, Kaltenbrunner 1





Group C

Heydrich 7, Bach-Zelewski 1





Group D

Himmler 4, Mengerle 4; I decide as Führer of the Survivor that Himmler is out. This doesn't mean that I like Mengerle Wink

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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2010, 10:54:06 AM »

Every round will be a feast, as we contribute to ousting evils...
You were right to eliminate Himmler: statistically, he was worse than Mengele.
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2010, 05:11:04 AM »

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Like in the first round there was a clear victory in 2 groups and close races in the 2 other groups. Mengerle an Streicher were eliminated very easy. In group B Müller wins against Kaltenbrunner and In Group C there was a tie between Göring and Bach-Zelewski. Bach had more votes in Round one and he is out. In group C was with Eike a other good in the race.

I must say thank you for the comments of fab, your knowledge of this nice people is very good, better than mine.

The Results of Round 2

Group A

Streicher 20, Seyss-Inquart 10, Koch 5, Dietrich 5, Keitl 2


Julius Streicher and his "newspaper"



Group B

Müller 18, Kaltenbrunner 15, Globocnik 6, Hausser 2, Ribbentrop 1





Group C

Bach-Zelewski 14 (1 vote in the previous Round), Göring 14 (no vote in the previous Round), Eike 11, Röhm 2, Rosenberg 1





Group D

Mengerle 20, Frank 13, Freisler 4, Pohl 3, Sauckel 1, Frick 1



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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2010, 10:16:12 AM »

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In this Round we had 3 clear victories. Frank with all votes and Kaltenbrunner and Koch very clear. Only the battle Göring vs. Eike was exiting. Eike Is out. I voted for Göring, but when I think about it, it's good Eike is eliminated, because he was an animal.

In the next round we have the Plus-Minus Rule and it will be funny for which Nazi everyone makes the Plus-vote Cheesy. You must make both votes, when not your vote is invalid.

The Results of Round 3

Group A

Koch 5, Seyss-Inquart 2, Keitl 2





Group B

Kaltenbrunner 6, Maurice 1





Group C

Eike 4, Göring 3





Group D

Frank 7

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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2010, 12:01:36 PM »

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I don't think the Plus minus Rule was a good idea. Maybe I use it in the Final Group again, but not earlier. In every group it was a clear winner.

For the counting of the previous votes I count only the elimination votes. When then it is still a tie I look at the Keep votes.

The Results of Round 4

Group A

Seyss-Inquart +3, Keitl +1, Bormann 0, Speer -1, Dietrich -1, von Manstein -2





Group B

Golbocnik +5, Hausser -1, Dönitz -4





Group C

Göring +5, Jannings -2, Guderian -3





Group D

Freisler +3, Pohl +1, Selde -1, Rommel -1, Halder -2

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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2010, 01:17:32 PM »

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Bormann , Rosenberg and Pohl were eliminated very easy. In Group B we had a tie between Thyssen and Lutze. For both it was the first vote, then I decide that Mr. Thyssen is out.

The turnout is very low Sad, but I think this round we eliminated some "nice" guys Wink

In the next Round you must split your vote for two Nazi in every Group.

The Results of Round 5

Group A

Bormann 4, Dietrich 1





Group B

Thyssen 2, Lutze 2 (both have no votes in the previous rounds; Thyssen is out with my decision), Axmann 1





Group C

Rosenberg 5





Group D

Pohl 5

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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2010, 04:46:48 PM »

Pohl's uniform with no insignia, apart from his collar and shoulder patches, made him even more threatening and frightening...

As for Bormann, it's difficult to compare, but he had the power an Anatoli Lukyanov had in the 1980s, with the character of a Beria...
I don't know if Kal will read this: his opinion on this would be appreciated Wink
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2010, 12:46:32 PM »

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The split-voter rule is every time good for close and exiting rounds. I gave no surprises. I think fab brings with Ohlendorf and Lohse 2 new names and they are good one. Ohlendorf I nearly forget, but he was really a bastard.

In the next Round we have the usual Rule + we vote for a Nazi to make him 3 Rounds IMMUNE.

The Results of Round 6

Group A

Daluege 2.5,  Dietrich 2, Keitel 1.5





Group B

Axmann 2, Lutze 1.5, Meyer 1, Ribbentrop 0.5





Group C

Frank 2.5, Röhm 2, von Bloomberg 0.5





Group D

Frick 1.5 (0.33 in the previous Rounds), Ohlendorf 1.5 (no votes in the previous Ronds), von Schirach 1, Lohse 0.5, von Neuenrath 0.5

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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2010, 06:42:40 AM »

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No big surprises in this round. I think we eliminate the right and make the right IMMUNE. Welcome to our new voter xyz Smiley

In the next Round we have the usual Rule. Caution, in each group is one Nazi IMMUNE

The Results of Round 6

Group A

Dietrich 3, Keitel 2, Rust 1; The IMMUNE Vote: Galland 5, Schacht 1





Group B

Ribbentrop 3, Lutze 2, Wagner 1; The IMMUNE Vote: Dönitz 2 (4 Keep votes in the pervious Rounds), Lammers 2 (no keep votes in the previous Rounds), Hanfstängl 1, Jodl 1





Group C

Röhm 5, Bürckel 1; The IMMUNE Vote: Canaris 5, Von Blomberg





Group D

Ohlendorf 4, von Schirach 2; The IMMUNE Vote: Halder 2 (2 Keep votes in the previous Rounds), Funk 2 (no votes in the previous Rounds), Fegelein 1, Rommel 1

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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2010, 11:32:34 AM »

Fine photos (and unknown from me) of Dietrich and Röhm.

Ohlendrof is always like that...
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2010, 12:17:58 PM »

Fine photos (and unknown from me) of Dietrich and Röhm.

Ohlendrof is always like that...

It's difficult to find good photos from this guys. They are always looking the same. Many Nazi looking in their uniform like twins Wink

The Dietrich Photo was made at the Obersalzberg.
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2010, 12:07:55 PM »

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Again no surprises. In every Round is one Nazi winning very clear.

In the next Round we have the usual Rule again. Caution, in each group is one Nazi IMMUNE

The Results of Round 8

Group A

Keitel 5, Rust 1, Schaub 1

 



Group B

Meyer 4, Maurice 1, Wagner 1





Group C

Wolff 5, Todt 1

 



Group D

von Schirach 4, Hess 2

 
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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2010, 06:15:19 PM »

Sorry for this untasty note, but Gauleiter's collar patches, as seen in Meyer's photo, are one of the finest (because one of the simplest) collar patches of all the WWII uniforms (with the ones of Standartenführer and Oberführer).
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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2010, 12:41:57 PM »

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Very close races in every Group. In Group A we had a tie. I voted for Papen, but Brandt is out, because I feel he was a very evil Bastard.

In the next Round we have the 3 - 2 - 1 Rule. Caution, in each group is one Nazi IMMUNE

The Results of Round 9

Group A

Brandt 3, von Papen 3 (Both have no votes in the previous rounds; I decide that von Papen was more important, but Brandt more evil, so Brandt is out)

 



Group B

Wagner 3, Lutze 2, Stuckart 1





Group C

Brückel 2 (1 vote in the previous Rounds), Schreck 2 (no votes in the previous Rounds), Todt 1, von Blomberg 1





Group D

Hess 3, Lohse 2, von Neurath 1

 
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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2010, 01:09:59 PM »

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The most exciting race was the Stuckard vs. Lutze Race. In the other groups it was relative clear, but not in every group wins my favourite Wink

In the next Round we have the usual Rule. It gives no Immunity anymore. You can vote for all of them.

The Results of Round 10

Group A

Speer 10, von Papen 6, Ritter von Epp 5, Ley 5, Rust 4

 



Group B

Lutze 11, Stuckart 9, Jodl 6, Heissmann 2, Terboven 1, Lammers 1





Group C

Todt 13, Krupp 10, von Blomberg 3, Schreck 3, Lorenz 1





Group D

Sauckel 13, von Neurath 8, Lohse 5, Fiehler 2, Fegelein 1, Funk 1

 
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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2010, 12:21:12 PM »

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3 clear and one close race. I think now we come to a point were it is very difficult to vote, because the evilness of the most is similar.

In the next Round we have the usual Rule.

The Results of Round 11

Group A

Rust 3, von Papen 2





Group B

Jodl 3, Stuckart 2





Group C

Krupp von Bohlen und Halbach 4, Schreck 1





Group D

Lohse 3, von Neurath 2

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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2010, 01:38:56 PM »

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I think the first time I voted for all winners Smiley With Ley fab brings a new name into the game and I don't think he survive a long time Wink Kal voted for Nebe and it would be a surprise for me when he comes in Phase 2. When we have 10 in every Group, then I do Group A + D and B + C together.

In the next Round you must split your vote between 2 Nazi.

The Results of Round 12

Group A

von Papen 3, Ley 2





Group B

Stuckart 4, Maurice 1





Group C

Schwarz 4, Nebe 1





Group D

von Neurath 3, Fegelein 2

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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2010, 06:43:29 PM »

Nebe protested against Einsatzgruppen (he "managed" for some time) and may have been a nuisance for the regime.
But, well, we can't say he was out of everything and the KriPo was also used for repressive and anti-semitic "bad works".
He is not my first priority in his group.
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