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« on: February 10, 2010, 09:16:54 am »
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Welcome to Balfour House, home to the Stovesby Municipal Conservative Party the meeting place for all party members and all moderates and progressives associated with the party on the local level. The building has been recently refurbished and was kindly opened by the Rt Hon Mr Richard A Butler.

Please post all public party business in this forum.
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2010, 06:03:55 pm »
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I am up for re-election in St. Michael's. Since St. Michael's is an area favourable to the Conservatives, I will not only be campaigning for re-election in my ward but also campaigning for MCP candidates around the city, notably in wards where the last election was close.

I believe we must lead a good campaign, revealing the truth on the incumbent socialo-communists and their dirty tricks destined to gerrymander the city, establish their unhealthy socialist ideas on a local level and so forth. Voters aren't stupid, and they cannot be brainwashed forever by the MSP and their zombies in trade unions.
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2010, 05:09:38 am »
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The disgraceful under-provision of services in all middle class and upper class wards by the criminals and thieves of the Socialist Party should ensure that there will be a groundswell of support in places like Upper Stovesby, where we can potentially gain another councillor. We must work hard to defend Soult from the Liberals, however.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2010, 08:14:09 am »
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Language gentlemen, language.

We cannot combat Socialism in any form if we equate them with criminals and communists. Many people within the socialist movement are as mistrusting of communism as we are and we should be mindful of that. We should be grateful that socialists in this city and the nation have not gone down the path of ideological suicide.
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2010, 07:09:50 am »
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I have arrested many a criminal in my day who would walk into a bank with a sawn-off shotgun and take money by force. That is thievery and yet we excuse those who walk into our homes and neighbourhoods and force us to part with our hard-earned, brandishing no more than a council by-law. The Municipal Socialist Party and its high-taxing Councillors are little more than an organised criminal gang.

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If you haven't noticed, my first-term Councillor has a tendency to shoot from the lip and say some pretty stupid things that will probably prevent him ever getting elected to the mayoralty. He's a bit of a loose cannon, but I think he'll learn to keep his mouth shut... slap him around a bit - he'll resent it but it'll be for the best. He's actually a reasonably sensible guy - as a copper he had to learn to be street smart, he'll wise up a bit and be politically smart, too, but it will take some time. (I think Out of Character comments are meant to be bold, but I think red makes it stand out enough here, without it looking like it's something terribly important).
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 02:04:03 pm »
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Mr. Finlay-Hamilton, I disagree with you. The Socialists are very openly communists and they have a clear Marxist agenda. We must do everything that is in our power to stop their conversion of England into a Soviet Satellite.

As you know, I am up for reelection in Frodsby. I plan to make fighting communism the cornerstone of my campaign, and I invite the party as a whole to adopt this platform.
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 02:24:24 pm »
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Mr. Finlay-Hamilton, I disagree with you. The Socialists are very openly communists and they have a clear Marxist agenda. We must do everything that is in our power to stop their conversion of England into a Soviet Satellite.

As you know, I am up for reelection in Frodsby. I plan to make fighting communism the cornerstone of my campaign, and I invite the party as a whole to adopt this platform.

Utter nonsense. What on earth do you wish the rest of the country to think about our local party? Hmm? Our national leadership has reached a consensus on the welfare state and on ensuring that we build a modern progressive society.  The people of Stovesby wish for their roads to be swept, their litter collected, their milk delivered, their parks tended, their children kept safe. They do not give a thrupenny about the war with Communism that is going on inside your head.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2010, 02:27:16 pm »
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Out of character.

Great I share a party with a bunch of anti-communist obsessives. Here's me thinking I was playing a game in a party that had some resemblence to a local party in 50's Britain Sad
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2010, 02:29:13 pm »
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Mr. Finlay-Hamilton, I disagree with you. The Socialists are very openly communists and they have a clear Marxist agenda. We must do everything that is in our power to stop their conversion of England into a Soviet Satellite.

As you know, I am up for reelection in Frodsby. I plan to make fighting communism the cornerstone of my campaign, and I invite the party as a whole to adopt this platform.

Utter nonsense. What on earth do you wish the rest of the country to think about our local party? Hmm? Our national leadership has reached a consensus on the welfare state and on ensuring that we build a modern progressive society.  The people of Stovesby wish for their roads to be swept, their litter collected, their milk delivered, their parks tended, their children kept safe. They do not give a thrupenny about the war with Communism that is going on inside your head.

I agree with all of the progressive things you just listed, however, I believe that eventually, unchecked socialism will lead to the government trying to run people's thought and ideas. This invasion of will is something we must prevent.
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2010, 02:29:56 pm »
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Out of character.

Great I share a party with a bunch of anti-communist obsessives. Here's me thinking I was playing a game in a party that had some resemblence to a local party in 50's Britain Sad

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Don't worry, it won't be bad. Smiley

Besides, my character is a bit loopy anyway. Wink
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2010, 02:31:59 pm »
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Out of character.

Great I share a party with a bunch of anti-communist obsessives. Here's me thinking I was playing a game in a party that had some resemblence to a local party in 50's Britain Sad

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Don't worry, it won't be bad. Smiley

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But that is all that people seem to be playing. If Al runs these elections accurately those who bang about communism should loose their seats because I think locals would be genuinely sick of them.
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2010, 05:18:21 pm »
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I am pleased that Councillor Gordon Fife is concerned by the rise of quasi-Marxist ideology within the MSP as much as I am. I strongly believe that the MCP must make opposition to the MSP's disastrous policies and opposition to the MSP's attempts to gerrymander the city by including working-class suburbs into the city a cornerstone of our campaign. The good and honest people of Stovesby, who work hard all day and don't live off welfare, are rightfully concerned and the MCP must represent them and fight for their rights and interests. I fear that Mr. Finlay-Hamilton is much too soft on the MSP and takes a much too conciliatory approach. If we want to have our voices heard and if we want to be a real opposition party, we must speak clearly.

(OC: I'll probably get tired on this guy soon, and my next guy will be a Dan Quayle-like gaffe machine)
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2010, 06:09:05 pm »
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I respectfully disagree. A two tier Greater Stovesby will undoubtedly increase both local representation and our own representation. There is much local affinity 'for the Saints' area of the city - St Albans, St Andrews, St Michaels, Culzeansands and Willowtree that can be served in one Borough in a Greater Stovesby 'with and apart' from the city. Putting a two tier system to the people will undoubtedly be popular.

As for the 'Red' talk, I will not take these discussions further only to say that if the impact on our effectiveness and organisation at the next General Election is hampered then we may see the wrath of the national party come down us somewhat deservedly.
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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2010, 08:27:18 pm »
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Very good all around, gentlemen. We must label ourselves as the party of the common man and the party of the future. The good people of Stovesby will know that the Conservatives will be good for their future, not the Socialists.
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2010, 08:43:59 pm »
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Cr Finlay-Hamilton, would you please be able to elaborate on the two-tiered system you advocate? Do you mean that instead of incorporating areas outside of Stovesby into the municipality, we should devolve into two separate municipalities? While I have focused on the improved services the outlying areas of my ward would receive due to the need for these services to be expanded into newer areas, separating the Northwestern suburbs of Stovesby into a separate municipality is not without merit if it means money from the Northwest stays in the Northwest.
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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2010, 05:55:26 am »
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Cr Finlay-Hamilton, would you please be able to elaborate on the two-tiered system you advocate? Do you mean that instead of incorporating areas outside of Stovesby into the municipality, we should devolve into two separate municipalities? While I have focused on the improved services the outlying areas of my ward would receive due to the need for these services to be expanded into newer areas, separating the Northwestern suburbs of Stovesby into a separate municipality is not without merit if it means money from the Northwest stays in the Northwest.


The plan is no too dissimilar to plans on the table for London. London is a sprawling metropolis that rests upon medieval county boundaries with superimposed Victorian boroughs. It is far too haphazard for the capital. A larger Greater London composed of autonomous boroughs is the solution (though who knows what wrangling will take place before anything is concrete)

I wish for a Greater Stovesby; it is important in the modern era to ensure that we have co-ordination of transport, industrial development, housing and urban planning. In doing this we can weaken the control that Stovesby City has over the whole metropolis by creating new boroughs out of the current city. We can have links to the city through a 'Metropolitan County', but each area within the current city can regain the local autonomy that we have lost. I do not deny that a Greater Stovesby may become a bastion of the Socialists, but many of the boroughs within can be pockets of Conservative resistance, a far better solution to Socialist dominance than we have at present.

OC - Cllr FH is referring to one of the many Local Government reforms that would be thrown up in the 1950's and 60's. 1958 saw the establishment of the Local Government Commission which proposed piecemeal changes. This was wound up in 1966 and it was not until the 1970's that full scale reform was implimented. An area like Stovesby could be considered at the time the game is set, as a special consideration but like real attempts, could fall foul of partisanship and bickering.
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2010, 07:26:29 pm »
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It's not an area of policy I'm particularly familiar with, so I'm sorry to seek further clarification. Does this mean separate councils for separate boroughs with a degree of autonomy and with responsibility for certain areas of policy, but with an over-riding single council that had responsibility for other areas of policy? For example, each borough is responsible for, say, the collection of rubbish (remembering the three r's of local government are roads, rates and rubbish), however the larger council is responsible for planning laws and integrating public transport between the boroughs? If so, does each borough council have its own budget and is it from rates received in that borough or are rates paid to the larger council and funds then allocated to the borough councils? Again, sorry for asking these questions which are probably quite simple, I just want to have my head around it before debate on the issue resumes. In the meantime, I'm planning on making a speech to the local Chamber of Commerce and Industry in the Soult ward about rates on business premises costing local jobs and the council not spending enough of the money taken from business on improving the local area to attract more residents to conduct business in the area. We lost the ward last election to the Libs and as I understand it, many residents in the local area are small businessmen and I therefore believe the issue will resonate strongly with those intending to cast a vote against the MSP but wavering between us and the Libs.
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2010, 08:23:30 am »
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2010, 10:06:35 am »
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Gentlemen

Action is required if we are to make gains in the upcoming election. We are doing very well it seems in our battles aganist the Socialists, however I have concern over any Liberal advance; while I do not believe the rumours generated from the Municipal Liberals that they are running a close battle in Culzeansands for example, I will be spending the remainder of the campaign there. I do not want people to believe rumours to the extent that they become self-fulfilled.

Our message should be clear; a vote for the Liberals will help the Socialists. The Socialists have the chance to make drastic structural and community change to this city over the coming years. Municipal conservatives should be aware that if given the chance, Socialists will 'build us out of the city.' Let voters know that their local park in only a matter of months could be given over to 'progress', that they may soon be walking their dog or nannying their children in the shadow of tall concrete housing blocks. 'Socialism through mortar' is politically motivated and designed to plant socialist leaning voters in moderate areas ensuring socialist dominance of the city. We cannot let that happen and we must remind voters that only we can stop it.
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2010, 08:41:39 pm »
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Cllr. J. Fredericks-

Gentlemen, I've just come from my polling station, and I must say that the voters' mood is very positive for us and turnout seems high, certainly a sign that people are turning against the socialo-communist coalition. The people of St. Michael's, I'm sure, will continue making the right choice; but I'm also very optimistic about our chances in other wards and I think we can make a significant dent in the comm.., er, Socialist majority tonight.

Given, uhm, family issues, I, uhm, haven't been able to campaign for my fellow candidates in other wards, but from what I've been hearing there are certainly good things going on in those wards tonight. We're on the verge of having a stronger caucus to oppose the borderline criminal efforts of the comm, er, Socialist majority. I've told the people on the ground that we'll defend their land and their parks from being turned into the equivalent of Soviet block housing for their sheep; that we'll protect their money from going on to funding those horrors; and that we'll find tooth-and-nail against any reform which seeks to gerrymander the city to ensure a socialo-communist majority for years to come.

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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2010, 12:50:41 pm »
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One Loss. One Gain and we held off the Liberal challenge.

Gentlemen, we can take stock of these results in due course. However I must take a second to congratulate our candidate in Culzeansands on his narrow victory. And yes there are eyes in this room who refused to believe that the Liberals could provide as strong a challenge as they did. This is of course not a time for 'told you so's'; it is a wakeup call to ensure that we remain vigilant about the Liberal menace.
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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2010, 01:04:27 pm »

The Group AGM is tomorrow. Which will also be used to sort players into committees. You will be placed into whichever ones the group leader wants you to go into, but you may make requests here or in private. Private and public requests do not have to match.
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2010, 07:12:02 pm »

Councillor Knight: I call to order the MCP AGM. I do not wish to dwell on the outcome of the election at present; we will debate that shortly. First, to business. I intend to remain as Leader of the group. Are there any objections?
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2010, 08:35:02 pm »

Councillor Atkinson: yes. Yes, sir, I do object. You have led this Party to three defeats on the trot. It is time for change; time for someone who will stand up to the dangerous approach taken by the Socialists, someone with a background in industry and not the law. I challenge you for the leadership of the group.
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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2010, 08:36:20 pm »

OOC: PCs should state their preferences in public. Results will then be calculated via magic.
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