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Bo
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How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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February 11, 2010, 08:53:21 pm »
1949-1965:Mapai/Alignment
1969: Labor
1973: Labor
1977-2009: Likud
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Senator Ben
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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February 11, 2010, 10:29:19 pm »
1949: Mapai
1951: Mapai
1955: Mapai
1959: Mapai
1961: Mapai
1965: Alignment
1969: Alignment
1973: Alignment
1977: Likud
1981: Likud
1984: Likud
1988: Likud
1992: Labor
1996: Likud/Netanyahu
1999: Likud/Netanyahu
2003: Likud/Sharon
2006: Kadima
2009: Likud
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Quote from: The Mikado on March 18, 2011, 11:12:39 pm
Obama High's debate team:
"Now let me be clear...I...I...um...uh...now let me be clear. I strongly condemn the affirmative in the strongest possible terms, and I am closely monitoring their arguments. Let me be clear on this."
Bo
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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February 11, 2010, 11:04:11 pm »
I just noticed I forgot the special Israeli Prime Ministerial elections that they previously had. Here is my list for those
1996:Netanyahu
1999:Netanyahu
2001:Sharon
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Californian Tony
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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February 12, 2010, 01:36:15 am »
1949: Mapai
1951: Mapai
1955: Mapai
1959: Mapai
1961: Mapai
1965: Alignment
1969: Alignment
1973: Alignment
1977: Hadash
1981: Alignment
1984: Alignment
1988: Alignment
1992: Labor
1996: Labor/Peres
1999: One Israel/Barak
2003: Meretz
/
Barak
2006: Meretz
2009: Meretz
Quote from: Mideast Assemblyman Ben for Senate on February 11, 2010, 10:29:19 pm
1996: Likud/Netanyahu
1999: Likud/Netanyahu
2003: Likud/Sharon
2006: Kadima
2009: Likud
Really ?
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"A good portion of this country has created an alternate universe. I call this place were these folks live Bullsh*t Mountain. The denizens of Bullsh*t Mountain believe many things: they believe that a Kenyan Muslim President has fundamentally changed the relationship between government and the people of this country."
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Senator Ben
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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February 12, 2010, 11:20:36 am »
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on February 12, 2010, 01:36:15 am
Quote from: Mideast Assemblyman Ben for Senate on February 11, 2010, 10:29:19 pm
1996: Likud/Netanyahu
1999: Likud/Netanyahu
2003: Likud/Sharon
2006: Kadima
2009: Likud
Really ?
Yessir.
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Quote from: The Mikado on March 18, 2011, 11:12:39 pm
Obama High's debate team:
"Now let me be clear...I...I...um...uh...now let me be clear. I strongly condemn the affirmative in the strongest possible terms, and I am closely monitoring their arguments. Let me be clear on this."
Californian Tony
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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February 12, 2010, 11:39:57 am »
Quote from: Mideast Assemblyman Ben for Senate on February 12, 2010, 11:20:36 am
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on February 12, 2010, 01:36:15 am
Quote from: Mideast Assemblyman Ben for Senate on February 11, 2010, 10:29:19 pm
1996: Likud/Netanyahu
1999: Likud/Netanyahu
2003: Likud/Sharon
2006: Kadima
2009: Likud
Really ?
Yessir.
You have a -6 economic PM and would vote for Netanyahu the ultraliberal ?
And really you think that inforcing conflicts and colonization as the Likud preaches will solve Israel's problems ?
I fail to understand.
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Truer today than it was yesterday.
"A good portion of this country has created an alternate universe. I call this place were these folks live Bullsh*t Mountain. The denizens of Bullsh*t Mountain believe many things: they believe that a Kenyan Muslim President has fundamentally changed the relationship between government and the people of this country."
Jon Stewart
Senator Ben
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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February 12, 2010, 12:52:52 pm »
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on February 12, 2010, 11:39:57 am
You have a -6 economic PM and would vote for Netanyahu the ultraliberal ?
And really you think that inforcing conflicts and colonization as the Likud preaches will solve Israel's problems ?
I fail to understand.
I have a lot of faith in Bibi.
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Quote from: The Mikado on March 18, 2011, 11:12:39 pm
Obama High's debate team:
"Now let me be clear...I...I...um...uh...now let me be clear. I strongly condemn the affirmative in the strongest possible terms, and I am closely monitoring their arguments. Let me be clear on this."
Californian Tony
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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February 12, 2010, 01:03:49 pm »
Quote from: Mideast Assemblyman Ben for Senate on February 12, 2010, 12:52:52 pm
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on February 12, 2010, 11:39:57 am
You have a -6 economic PM and would vote for Netanyahu the ultraliberal ?
And really you think that inforcing conflicts and colonization as the Likud preaches will solve Israel's problems ?
I fail to understand.
I have a lot of faith in Bibi.
Ah, faith...
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Truer today than it was yesterday.
"A good portion of this country has created an alternate universe. I call this place were these folks live Bullsh*t Mountain. The denizens of Bullsh*t Mountain believe many things: they believe that a Kenyan Muslim President has fundamentally changed the relationship between government and the people of this country."
Jon Stewart
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JC
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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Reply #8 on:
February 12, 2010, 01:05:25 pm »
Likud in every election they were in.
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Bo
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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February 12, 2010, 08:51:02 pm »
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on February 12, 2010, 01:03:49 pm
Quote from: Mideast Assemblyman Ben for Senate on February 12, 2010, 12:52:52 pm
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on February 12, 2010, 11:39:57 am
You have a -6 economic PM and would vote for Netanyahu the ultraliberal ?
And really you think that inforcing conflicts and colonization as the Likud preaches will solve Israel's problems ?
I fail to understand.
I have a lot of faith in Bibi.
Ah, faith...
First of all, Bibi is pretty liberal (in the American sense) on economics, much more so than almost all Republican and many Democratic politicians in the U.S. Secondly, even if Ben disagrees with Bibi on economics, he might still support him due to his tough stance on security. I know I would. I also know that this is the reason many Israelis voted for Likud--security is a huge issue there, much more than in the U.S. or in Europe.
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Californian Tony
Antonio V
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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February 13, 2010, 03:51:02 am »
Quote from: Рошамбо on February 12, 2010, 08:51:02 pm
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on February 12, 2010, 01:03:49 pm
Quote from: Mideast Assemblyman Ben for Senate on February 12, 2010, 12:52:52 pm
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on February 12, 2010, 11:39:57 am
You have a -6 economic PM and would vote for Netanyahu the ultraliberal ?
And really you think that inforcing conflicts and colonization as the Likud preaches will solve Israel's problems ?
I fail to understand.
I have a lot of faith in Bibi.
Ah, faith...
First of all, Bibi is pretty liberal (in the American sense) on economics, much more so than almost all Republican and many Democratic politicians in the U.S. Secondly, even if Ben disagrees with Bibi on economics, he might still support him due to his tough stance on security. I know I would. I also know that this is the reason many Israelis voted for Likud--security is a huge issue there, much more than in the U.S. or in Europe.
You can't use the GOP as a reference to compare with other right-wing parties in the world, its far-right stances make it a great exception among developped countries. And you really think that war is the good way to ensure security ? Likud and other Israeli warlike parties are actually one of the greatest threats to Israel's security.
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Truer today than it was yesterday.
"A good portion of this country has created an alternate universe. I call this place were these folks live Bullsh*t Mountain. The denizens of Bullsh*t Mountain believe many things: they believe that a Kenyan Muslim President has fundamentally changed the relationship between government and the people of this country."
Jon Stewart
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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February 13, 2010, 03:51:46 am »
Hamas
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hcallega
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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Reply #12 on:
February 13, 2010, 02:31:45 pm »
1949: Mapai
1951: Mapai
1955: Mapai
1959: Mapai
1961: Mapai
1965: Alignment
1969: Alignment
1973: Alignment
1977: Alignment
1981: Alignment
1984: Alignment
1988: Alignment
1992: Meretz
1996: Meretz
1999: Meretz
2003: Meretz
2006: Meretz
2009: Meretz
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Economic score: -1.74
Social score: -0.78
"Be happy with what you have and are, be generous with both, and you won't have to hunt for happiness."
Bo
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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February 13, 2010, 02:37:47 pm »
Quote from: KARL ROVE on February 13, 2010, 03:51:46 am
Hamas
That's for Palestine, not for Israel. BTW, you know Karl Rove strongly hates Hamas?
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Bo
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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February 13, 2010, 02:43:19 pm »
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on February 13, 2010, 03:51:02 am
Quote from: Рошамбо on February 12, 2010, 08:51:02 pm
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on February 12, 2010, 01:03:49 pm
Quote from: Mideast Assemblyman Ben for Senate on February 12, 2010, 12:52:52 pm
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on February 12, 2010, 11:39:57 am
You have a -6 economic PM and would vote for Netanyahu the ultraliberal ?
And really you think that inforcing conflicts and colonization as the Likud preaches will solve Israel's problems ?
I fail to understand.
I have a lot of faith in Bibi.
Ah, faith...
First of all, Bibi is pretty liberal (in the American sense) on economics, much more so than almost all Republican and many Democratic politicians in the U.S. Secondly, even if Ben disagrees with Bibi on economics, he might still support him due to his tough stance on security. I know I would. I also know that this is the reason many Israelis voted for Likud--security is a huge issue there, much more than in the U.S. or in Europe.
You can't use the GOP as a reference to compare with other right-wing parties in the world, its far-right stances make it a great exception among developped countries. And you really think that war is the good way to ensure security ? Likud and other Israeli warlike parties are actually one of the greatest threats to Israel's security.
I don't think war is a good way to ensure Israel's security, unless absolutely necessary. However, I do believe that using massive force to respond to terrorism all the time is a good way to ensure Israel's security. Israeli leaders between about 1990 and 2001 were unwilling to respond to terrorism, and thus terorrism there never stopped or even decreased (in fact, the casulaties from terorrism increased in Israel during this time). Since I lived there back then, I felt a lot of fear for my security. It is only when Sharon began to respond to terrorism in a way that he felt necessary in 2002-2003 that the casulaties from terrorism there began decreasing. In just several years, almost all suicide bombings in Israel have stopped. Also, after Israel invaded Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza in 2008, almost all rocket attacks from both areas have stopped because Hezbollah and Hamas do not want Israel to have to repeat the damage that they did there. I'm all in favor of peace, but I believe that Israel should not have to compromise the security of its citizens in order to achieve peace, which unfortunately many Israeli leaders in the 1990s did not realize and thus many lives of Israeli civilians were unnecessarily and tragically lost.
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Californian Tony
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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February 13, 2010, 02:57:45 pm »
Quote from: Рошамбо on February 13, 2010, 02:43:19 pm
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on February 13, 2010, 03:51:02 am
Quote from: Рошамбо on February 12, 2010, 08:51:02 pm
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on February 12, 2010, 01:03:49 pm
Quote from: Mideast Assemblyman Ben for Senate on February 12, 2010, 12:52:52 pm
Quote from: Northeast Representative Antonio V on February 12, 2010, 11:39:57 am
You have a -6 economic PM and would vote for Netanyahu the ultraliberal ?
And really you think that inforcing conflicts and colonization as the Likud preaches will solve Israel's problems ?
I fail to understand.
I have a lot of faith in Bibi.
Ah, faith...
First of all, Bibi is pretty liberal (in the American sense) on economics, much more so than almost all Republican and many Democratic politicians in the U.S. Secondly, even if Ben disagrees with Bibi on economics, he might still support him due to his tough stance on security. I know I would. I also know that this is the reason many Israelis voted for Likud--security is a huge issue there, much more than in the U.S. or in Europe.
You can't use the GOP as a reference to compare with other right-wing parties in the world, its far-right stances make it a great exception among developped countries. And you really think that war is the good way to ensure security ? Likud and other Israeli warlike parties are actually one of the greatest threats to Israel's security.
I don't think war is a good way to ensure Israel's security, unless absolutely necessary. However, I do believe that using massive force to respond to terrorism all the time is a good way to ensure Israel's security. Israeli leaders between about 1990 and 2001 were unwilling to respond to terrorism, and thus terorrism there never stopped or even decreased (in fact, the casulaties from terorrism increased in Israel during this time). Since I lived there back then, I felt a lot of fear for my security. It is only when Sharon began to respond to terrorism in a way that he felt necessary in 2002-2003 that the casulaties from terrorism there began decreasing. In just several years, almost all suicide bombings in Israel have stopped. Also, after Israel invaded Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza in 2008, almost all rocket attacks from both areas have stopped because Hezbollah and Hamas do not want Israel to have to repeat the damage that they did there. I'm all in favor of peace, but I believe that Israel should not have to compromise the security of its citizens in order to achieve peace, which unfortunately many Israeli leaders in the 1990s did not realize and thus many lives of Israeli civilians were unnecessarily and tragically lost.
And what about the number of gazawi and lebanese civilians who died ? By acting so, Israel is alienating more and more people against it. I live in France, and I assure you that since Lebanon and Gaza the number of anti-Israeli retard has increased tenfold. And you also give justifications to terrorsists for their crusade, by pushing civilians in their hands.
I love Israel, I think it's a great democratic nation which deserves security as any other nation. But Israeli need to understand that they are destroying themselves by always chosing conflict instead of negociation. The only way to have peace is to show signs of good-willingness, even when your enemy doesn't. If negociations start again, I'm absolutely sure that one day even Palestinian leaders will chill somewhat. Instead, violence will only feed violence.
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"A good portion of this country has created an alternate universe. I call this place were these folks live Bullsh*t Mountain. The denizens of Bullsh*t Mountain believe many things: they believe that a Kenyan Muslim President has fundamentally changed the relationship between government and the people of this country."
Jon Stewart
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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There was a thread about this somewhere, but I can't find it.
I would vote for the commies every time. All the other parties are racist.
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1949:
Mapam
because I'd be angry at Mapai's expulsion of Palestinians from their homes in the Arab-Israeli War.
1951:
Mapai
1955:
Mapam
because of the reprisal operations and the Qibya massacre
1959:
Mapam
1961:
Mapam
1965: Peace List or Nes
1969: Peace List
1973:
Ratz
1977:
Ratz
1981:
Ratz
1984:
Ratz
1988:
Ratz
1992:
Meretz
1996:
Meretz
,
Peres
for PM
1999:
Meretz
,
Barak
for PM
2001:
Barak
for PM in spite of being quite fed up with him (since Sharon was the alternative)
2003:
Meretz
2006:
Meretz
2009:
Meretz
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Rhodie
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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Reply #18 on:
August 08, 2012, 07:24:51 am »
1949: Herut
1951: General Zionists
1955: General Zionists
1959: General Zionists
1961: Liberal
1965: Gahal
1969: Gahal
1973: Likud
1977: Likud
1981: Likud
1984: Likud
1988: Likud
1992: Likud
1996: Likud/Netanyahu
1999: Likud/Netanyahu
2001: Sharon
2003: Likud
2006: Likud
2009: Likud
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Economic score: +6.19
Social score: +2.61
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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August 16, 2012, 05:19:50 am »
1949: Mapai
1951: Mapai
1955: Mapai
1959: Mapai
1961: Mapai
1965: Alignment
1969: Alignment
1973: Alignment
1977: Hadash
1981: Alignment
1984: Alignment
1988: Alignment
1992: Labor
1996: Labor/Peres
1999: One Israel/Barak
2003: Labor
2006: Labor
2009: Meretz
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Political Matrix
E: -7,74
S: -5,22
RogueBeaver
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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Reply #20 on:
August 16, 2012, 03:15:55 pm »
1949: General Zionists
1951: General Zionists
1955: General Zionists
1959: General Zionists
1961: Herut
1965: Gahal
1969: Gahal
1973: Likud
1977: Likud
1981: Likud
1984: Likud
1988: Likud
1992: Labor- Rabin promises to unshackle the economy.
1996: Likud/Bibi
1999: Likud/Bibi
2001: Likud/Sharon
2003: Likud
2005: Kadima- Despite Olmert's corruption, my support of the pullout takes priority.
2009: Likud
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Dr. Cynic
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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August 23, 2012, 03:12:40 am »
1949: Mapai
1951: Mapai
1955: Mapai
1959: Mapai
1961: Mapai
1965: Rafi
1969: Alignment
1973: Ratz
1977: Alignment
1981: Alignment
1984: Alignment
1988: Alignment
1992: Labor
1996: Labor
1999: Meretz
2001: Labor
2003: Meretz
2006: Meretz
2009: Meretz
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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Reply #22 on:
October 17, 2012, 04:23:00 pm »
1949-1977: Mapai/Alignment (mostly on security and foreign policy; without hindsight, '77 too)
1981: Tehiya (again, without hindsight; I would probably have been a great skeptic on the idea of just handing the Sinai back to Egypt and trusting them to keep it demilitarized)
1984-1992: Likud (obvious)
1996-1999: Yisrael BaAliyah/Netanyahu
2001: Sharon
2003-2006: Likud
2009: Yisrael Beiteinu
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oh Vosem, you poor boy...
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Social score: -6.52
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drj101
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Political Matrix
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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Reply #23 on:
October 17, 2012, 05:28:50 pm »
1949:
Mapai
1951:
Mapai
1955:
Mapam
(following their dropping support for the USSR)
1959:
Mapam
1961:
Mapam
1965:
Mapam
1969:
Alignment
1973:
Ratz
1977:
Ratz
1981:
Ratz
1984:
Ratz
1988:
Ratz
1992:
Meretz
1996:
Meretz
,Peres
1999:
Meretz
, Barak
2001: Barak
2003:
Meretz
2006:
Meretz
2009:
Meretz
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pillage the village, trash the scene
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Re: How would you have voted, Israeli edition
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October 23, 2012, 06:12:16 am »
1949-1984: Herut
1984: Kach
1988-1999: National Religious
1999-: National Union
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