How would you have voted, Israeli edition

[Antonio the Sixth]

1949: Mapai
1951: Mapai
1955: Mapai
1959: Mapai
1961: Mapai
1965: Alignment
1969: Alignment
1973: Alignment
1977: Hadash
1981: Alignment
1984: Alignment
1988: Alignment
1992: Labor
1996: Labor/Peres
1999: One Israel/Barak
2003: Meretz/Barak
2006: Meretz
2009: Meretz

1996: Likud/Netanyahu
1999: Likud/Netanyahu
2003: Likud/Sharon
2006: Kadima
2009: Likud

Really ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

1996: Likud/Netanyahu
1999: Likud/Netanyahu
2003: Likud/Sharon
2006: Kadima
2009: Likud

Really ?

Yessir.

You have a -6 economic PM and would vote for Netanyahu the ultraliberal ?
And really you think that inforcing conflicts and colonization as the Likud preaches will solve Israel's problems ?
I fail to understand.

[Antonio the Sixth]

You have a -6 economic PM and would vote for Netanyahu the ultraliberal ?
And really you think that inforcing conflicts and colonization as the Likud preaches will solve Israel's problems ?
I fail to understand.

I have a lot of faith in Bibi.

Ah, faith...

[Antonio the Sixth]

You have a -6 economic PM and would vote for Netanyahu the ultraliberal ?
And really you think that inforcing conflicts and colonization as the Likud preaches will solve Israel's problems ?
I fail to understand.

I have a lot of faith in Bibi.

Ah, faith...

First of all, Bibi is pretty liberal (in the American sense) on economics, much more so than almost all Republican and many Democratic politicians in the U.S. Secondly, even if Ben disagrees with Bibi on economics, he might still support him due to his tough stance on security. I know I would. I also know that this is the reason many Israelis voted for Likud--security is a huge issue there, much more than in the U.S. or in Europe.

You can't use the GOP as a reference to compare with other right-wing parties in the world, its far-right stances make it a great exception among developped countries. And you really think that war is the good way to ensure security ? Likud and other Israeli warlike parties are actually one of the greatest threats to Israel's security.

[Antonio the Sixth]

You have a -6 economic PM and would vote for Netanyahu the ultraliberal ?
And really you think that inforcing conflicts and colonization as the Likud preaches will solve Israel's problems ?
I fail to understand.

I have a lot of faith in Bibi.

Ah, faith...

First of all, Bibi is pretty liberal (in the American sense) on economics, much more so than almost all Republican and many Democratic politicians in the U.S. Secondly, even if Ben disagrees with Bibi on economics, he might still support him due to his tough stance on security. I know I would. I also know that this is the reason many Israelis voted for Likud--security is a huge issue there, much more than in the U.S. or in Europe.

You can't use the GOP as a reference to compare with other right-wing parties in the world, its far-right stances make it a great exception among developped countries. And you really think that war is the good way to ensure security ? Likud and other Israeli warlike parties are actually one of the greatest threats to Israel's security.

I don't think war is a good way to ensure Israel's security, unless absolutely necessary. However, I do believe that using massive force to respond to terrorism all the time is a good way to ensure Israel's security. Israeli leaders between about 1990 and 2001 were unwilling to respond to terrorism, and thus terorrism there never stopped or even decreased (in fact, the casulaties from terorrism increased in Israel during this time). Since I lived there back then, I felt a lot of fear for my security. It is only when Sharon began to respond to terrorism in a way that he felt necessary in 2002-2003 that the casulaties from terrorism there began decreasing. In just several years, almost all suicide bombings in Israel have stopped. Also, after Israel invaded Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza in 2008, almost all rocket attacks from both areas have stopped because Hezbollah and Hamas do not want Israel to have to repeat the damage that they did there. I'm all in favor of peace, but I believe that Israel should not have to compromise the security of its citizens in order to achieve peace, which unfortunately many Israeli leaders in the 1990s did not realize and thus many lives of Israeli civilians were unnecessarily and tragically lost.

And what about the number of gazawi and lebanese civilians who died ? By acting so, Israel is alienating more and more people against it. I live in France, and I assure you that since Lebanon and Gaza the number of anti-Israeli retard has increased tenfold. And you also give justifications to terrorsists for their crusade, by pushing civilians in their hands.
I love Israel, I think it's a great democratic nation which deserves security as any other nation. But Israeli need to understand that they are destroying themselves by always chosing conflict instead of negociation. The only way to have peace is to show signs of good-willingness, even when your enemy doesn't. If negociations start again, I'm absolutely sure that one day even Palestinian leaders will chill somewhat. Instead, violence will only feed violence.