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« on: April 24, 2011, 09:45:55 PM »

I was talking to someone in chat about my other posts in here. He implied that he considered any talk about someone loving God, means that they love Jesus. I am curious, when you hear talk about someone loving God, do you imply that to mean they love Jesus, or, the person of whatever faith you are (Mohammed etc)
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2011, 10:18:17 PM »

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

...is what Jmfcst is on the way to post.  I just saved him the time of doing so.
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2011, 12:53:26 AM »

for my own faith life God=Jesus, but I wouldn't assume anyone of a different faith would mean the same thing - they are talking about their own understanding of loving who God is. the one way it could be true is if they are truly loving god, I could consider they are loving Jesus without knowing it because they are living in the love of God who is also Jesus, and whoever shows loves to  the "least of these" of God's children has done this for Jesus whether they have known him by name or not.  also Jesus is not comparable in this way to figures such as Muhammad for whom divinity is not claimed.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2011, 01:24:52 AM »

for my own faith life God=Jesus, but I wouldn't assume anyone of a different faith would mean the same thing - they are talking about their own understanding of loving who God is. the one way it could be true is if they are truly loving god, I could consider they are loving Jesus without knowing it because they are living in the love of God who is also Jesus

how did you manage to get that exactly backwards?

Luke 10:16  "he who rejects me rejects him who sent me."

John 13:12 "whoever accepts me accepts the one who sent me"

God has simply placed all focus on Jesus Christ, so whoever wants to accept God must accept Jesus Christ.  It's just that plain and simple.
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2011, 08:31:04 AM »

I was talking to someone in chat about my other posts in here. He implied that he considered any talk about someone loving God, means that they love Jesus. I am curious, when you hear talk about someone loving God, do you imply that to mean they love Jesus, or, the person of whatever faith you are (Mohammed etc)

Teddy, Muslims are not worshiping Muhammad as any kind of God or Godlike figure. They are strictly, very strictly monotheistic.
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2011, 09:22:39 AM »
« Edited: April 25, 2011, 06:21:31 PM by jmfcst »

Teddy, Muslims are not worshiping Muhammad as any kind of God or Godlike figure. They are strictly, very strictly monotheistic.

I understand the monotheistic issues with the "three persons" language within some creeds used by some sects of Christianity.  But there are absolutely no monotheistic issues with the language of the New Testament, for monotheism itself does not preclude God appearing in the flesh.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2011, 09:30:30 AM »

Pure nonsense.  I don't assume just because someone says he believes in ghosts that he believes the Easter Bunny.
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2011, 09:39:37 AM »

While I do love God and I do love Jesus, those two are different things.

God = diety
Jesus = some long-dead Middle Eastern Rabbi
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2011, 09:47:51 AM »

God = Jesus = Holy Spirit. All three are one.
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2011, 01:54:09 PM »

I understand some Islamist groups often refer to Christians as "polytheists" as a derogatory term (due to the Trinity.) When some Egyptian group issued a message threatening to attack something like "temples of polytheism" this was instantly assumed to mean Coptic churches.
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2011, 02:27:52 PM »

I understand some Islamist groups often refer to Christians as "polytheists" as a derogatory term (due to the Trinity.) When some Egyptian group issued a message threatening to attack something like "temples of polytheism" this was instantly assumed to mean Coptic churches.

well, the perceived polytheism is totally the fault of creedist Christians attempting to parse and compartmentalize God
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2011, 04:17:04 PM »

God = Jesus = Holy Spirit. All three are one.

This.
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