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Is Bernie Sanders a closet socialist?
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Well what do you think?
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Nope. He's an open one.
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Quote from: SvenssonRS on February 15, 2010, 01:31:44 pm
Nope. He's an open one.
I figure what better defense against those who cry "closet socialism" than by out right admitting to being one. I mean seriously, the "socialism" charge, which makes many a non-Republican shift in their boots, is nothing against an admitted Democratic Socialist.
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Quote from: Mechadude on February 15, 2010, 01:34:13 pm
Quote from: SvenssonRS on February 15, 2010, 01:31:44 pm
Nope. He's an open one.
I figure what better defense against those who cry "closet socialism" than by out right admitting to being one. I mean seriously, the "socialism" charge, which makes many a non-Republican shift in their boots, is nothing against an admitted Democratic Socialist.
Agreed. Also takes quite a lot of balls to do, which is quite respectable.
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Nope; he's the best man in Congress.
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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a closet socialist?
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Probably. Doesn't he self-identify as one?
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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a closet socialist?
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Er, a social-democrat, yes. I've never heard him advocate for a proletarian revolution.
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Quote from: Хahar on February 15, 2010, 01:38:04 pm
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Quote from: Lief on February 15, 2010, 03:26:21 pm
Er, a social-democrat, yes. I've never heard him advocate for a proletarian revolution.
I've heard him multiple times, once on the Colbert Report, openly call himself a "Democratic Socialist". Sure it's not dye in the wool socialism, but it's still "socialism".
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He's a proud democratic socialist.
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Quote from: Progressive Realist on February 15, 2010, 03:48:51 pm
He's a proud democratic socialist.
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Quote from: SvenssonRS on February 15, 2010, 01:31:44 pm
Nope. He's an open one.
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It's true. Sanders caucuses with the Democrat Party but he is actually registered as a Socialist. Which should speak volumes to the people of Vermont and America about what the Democrat agenda really is...
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Quote from: KeeptheChange on February 15, 2010, 04:41:43 pm
It's true. Sanders caucuses with the Democrat Party but he is actually registered as a Socialist. Which should speak volumes to the people of Vermont and America about what the Democrat agenda really is...
Bernie Sanders caucuses with a Thai party? I wonder what other nations he's caucusing with parties from.
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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a closet socialist?
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Quote from: NiK on February 15, 2010, 04:14:06 pm
Quote from: Progressive Realist on February 15, 2010, 03:48:51 pm
He's a proud democratic socialist.
And yet,
at least 11 senators
are more liberal than he is.
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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a closet socialist?
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Quote from: frenger on February 15, 2010, 05:57:04 pm
Quote from: NiK on February 15, 2010, 04:14:06 pm
Quote from: Progressive Realist on February 15, 2010, 03:48:51 pm
He's a proud democratic socialist.
And yet,
at least 11 senators
are more liberal than he is.
Oh Lieberman that nuty liberal.
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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a closet socialist?
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No. He's out and proud.
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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a closet socialist?
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Quote from: Realpolitik on February 15, 2010, 06:32:10 pm
No. He's out and proud.
I'm seeing him with a "Red Pride" flag marching through the street shouting "We're here, we're out to redistribute wealth and build a social safety net while protecting labor from exploitation, get used to it!"
A bit of an unwieldy chant, now that I look at it. The real lefties are good at making up those chants, so I'm sure he'd have something catchier.
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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a closet socialist?
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Quote from: PiT (The Physicist) on February 15, 2010, 05:25:16 pm
Quote from: KeeptheChange on February 15, 2010, 04:41:43 pm
It's true. Sanders caucuses with the Democrat Party but he is actually registered as a Socialist. Which should speak volumes to the people of Vermont and America about what the Democrat agenda really is...
Bernie Sanders caucuses with a Thai party? I wonder what other nations he's caucusing with parties from.
Especially surprising he caucuses with a conservative Thai party!
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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a closet socialist?
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Quote from: KeeptheChange on February 15, 2010, 04:41:43 pm
It's true. Sanders caucuses with the Democrat Party but he is actually registered as a Socialist.
Mmm, no he is a registered independent.
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I don't find it offensive that conservatives have called me a socialist. I find it offensive that they think that that's necessarily a bad thing.
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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a closet socialist?
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Quote from: NiK on February 15, 2010, 04:14:06 pm
Quote from: Progressive Realist on February 15, 2010, 03:48:51 pm
He's a proud democratic socialist.
So in the "European Left" sense? Old Labour, Parti Socialiste, PSOE, PASOK etc?
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Quote from: change08 on February 15, 2010, 08:56:07 pm
Quote from: NiK on February 15, 2010, 04:14:06 pm
Quote from: Progressive Realist on February 15, 2010, 03:48:51 pm
He's a proud democratic socialist.
So in the "European Left" sense? Old Labour, Parti Socialiste, PSOE, PASOK etc?
Or in the American left sense, as Paul Wellstone would put it, the "Democratic wing of the Democratic party".
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He is an out of the closet Socialist but his views are more like Communist.
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He is an out of the closet Socialist but his views are more like Communist.
Just... no.
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