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« on: February 16, 2010, 03:26:30 PM »

I've plotted a pair of charts showing the congressional reapportionment trends by region.

The regions, like the reapportionments themselves, are determined by the Census Bureau.


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Regional Apportionment of House Seats Over Time








Regional Apportionment Percentage Over Time

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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2010, 02:14:28 AM »

Very interesting (though nothing too surprising in the data).

Probably the biggest would be that the Northeast hasn't lost nearly as much representation proportionally speaking in the last 100 years as I'd have thought (the Midwest seems to have lost more), and that the South hasn't gained nearly as much as thought (the West gaining far more, though of course the West as we know it now basically didn't exist for the first 70 years or so of our country's history).
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2010, 03:24:43 AM »

Very interesting (though nothing too surprising in the data).

Probably the biggest would be that the Northeast hasn't lost nearly as much representation proportionally speaking in the last 100 years as I'd have thought (the Midwest seems to have lost more), and that the South hasn't gained nearly as much as thought (the West gaining far more, though of course the West as we know it now basically didn't exist for the first 70 years or so of our country's history).

The West's gains can almost exclusively be attributed to California.  Over the last 100 years the California congressional delegation has grown by approximately 500% and the state population has grown by double digit percentages every decade since statehood in 1850.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2010, 03:48:46 AM »

I found it interesting, though I didn't really have much to say.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2010, 03:50:10 AM »

The West's gains can almost exclusively be attributed to California.  Over the last 100 years the California congressional delegation has grown by approximately 500% and the state population has grown by double digit percentages every decade since statehood in 1850.

California is likely to either remain unchanged or lose a seat this year. It doesn't seem to be growing faster than the national average anymore.

I hope Rhode Island doesn't lose its 2nd seat.

I'll never understand how the South was able to get away with blocking re-apportionment in 1920.
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2010, 07:37:06 AM »
« Edited: February 19, 2010, 07:59:16 AM by memphis »

Very interesting (though nothing too surprising in the data).

Probably the biggest would be that the Northeast hasn't lost nearly as much representation proportionally speaking in the last 100 years as I'd have thought (the Midwest seems to have lost more), and that the South hasn't gained nearly as much as thought (the West gaining far more, though of course the West as we know it now basically didn't exist for the first 70 years or so of our country's history).

Not ony has the South not grown much, nearly all growth has been in FL and TX. Outside of a few other hotspots (metro Atlanta, DC) the South has declined substantially. To me, the real story in the graphs in the growth of the West.
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2010, 08:40:50 AM »

I spent over an hour putting these together, and I get one inane, semi-useless response?  Sad
You spent over an hour putting together some inane, semi-useless graphs featuring only common knowledge, and then you have the cheek to complain?

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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2010, 10:03:29 AM »

I spent over an hour putting these together, and I get one inane, semi-useless response?  Sad
You spent over an hour putting together some inane, semi-useless graphs featuring only common knowledge, and then you have the cheek to complain?

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You can be a real dick sometimes.  Most times, in fact.
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2010, 10:13:24 AM »

I spent over an hour putting these together, and I get one inane, semi-useless response?  Sad
You spent over an hour putting together some inane, semi-useless graphs featuring only common knowledge, and then you have the cheek to complain?

*shakes head in wonder*

You can be a real dick sometimes.  Most times, in fact.

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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2010, 11:00:19 PM »

And still, the size has remained the same since the 1920s.
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2010, 02:26:40 AM »

And still, the size has remained the same since the 1920s.

They really should have made the Hawaii/Alaska expansion permanent.  Not that it would make a huge difference but reverting back to 435 seems so silly.  Whats so magically about 435?  I understand the "mathematical allure" of having 100 Senators but whats so special about having 435 Representatives?  500 seems a much better number to me.  Maybe it will be reevaluated if/when Puerto Rico becomes a state.
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2010, 10:47:04 PM »

And still, the size has remained the same since the 1920s.

They really should have made the Hawaii/Alaska expansion permanent.  Not that it would make a huge difference but reverting back to 435 seems so silly.  Whats so magically about 435?  I understand the "mathematical allure" of having 100 Senators but whats so special about having 435 Representatives?  500 seems a much better number to me.  Maybe it will be reevaluated if/when Puerto Rico becomes a state.

We have 435 representatives because in the 1920s, the newly-elected Republican majority was wary about reapportioning the House.  They were required to increase it's size three years after the Census of 1920, but they didn't.  And in 1929 they froze the size of the House.

Five hundred would not be enough.  We need at least twice as many Congressmen as we do today.
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2010, 11:20:13 PM »

maybe we should use some kind of proportional representation so that third parties can finally get some seats.
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2010, 11:24:36 PM »

maybe we should use some kind of proportional representation so that third parties can finally get some seats.

Yes, but that would mean all of a state's representatives would focus towards getting money for that state's major cities while ignoring that state's small towns and rural areas.
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2010, 12:40:23 AM »

maybe we should use some kind of proportional representation so that third parties can finally get some seats.

Yes, but that would mean all of a state's representatives would focus towards getting money for that state's major cities while ignoring that state's small towns and rural areas.

Not true.
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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2010, 01:56:05 AM »

maybe we should use some kind of proportional representation so that third parties can finally get some seats.

Yes, but that would mean all of a state's representatives would focus towards getting money for that state's major cities while ignoring that state's small towns and rural areas.

The point is that PR would give those small towns and rural areas representation, regardless of where the money is.  Hence, proportional representation.
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