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Vosem
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Murray trails Rossi; safe against other opponents
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February 16, 2010, 04:37:58 pm »
Dino Rossi 48
Patty Murray 46
Patty Murray 50
Don Benton 38
Patty Murray 49
Clint Didier 34
Patty Murray 48
Chris Widener 33
Rasmussen Reports.
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February 16, 2010, 05:02:24 pm »
Yup, good thing we decided to enter the least likely matchup as well as the one where the Republican is doing the best to the database.
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Quote from: Lief on February 16, 2010, 05:02:24 pm
Yup, good thing we decided to enter the least likely matchup as well as the one where the Republican is doing the best to the database.
I do recall a poll from Ohio had the least likeliest matchup and the most favorable numbers for the Dems posted in the Database. Also there have been Pataki matchups entered into the database as well. Do please quit being a socialist hack, Lief.
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lolz, I'll believe it when I see it.
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February 17, 2010, 01:14:03 am »
He's right. The poll is accurate:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/washington/election_2010_washington_senate
Rossi should run. He might actually win, and I think he might want to considering his Gore-esque loss to Gregoire in 2004.
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February 17, 2010, 06:19:54 am »
Don't worry about this....if Democrats are seriously in danger of losing WA (which I doubt), then they're already f**ked anyway.
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February 17, 2010, 07:11:39 am »
Really, I used to be a big defender of Rassmussen, but now him claiming to be a "media company", and starting to move into push poll territory, I am becoming quite suspicious of his timely polls. I bet we will see a major GOP lead inhis next Indianna one that will not appear in anyone elses polls when they get around to looking at it.
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Quote from: SoFA Franzl on February 17, 2010, 06:19:54 am
Don't worry about this....if Democrats are seriously in danger of losing WA (which I doubt), then they're already f**ked anyway.
In theory, you can lose a seat even in a good year for your party if the opponent is strong enough. Look at Salazar in 2004.
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CultureKing
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February 18, 2010, 03:41:06 pm »
Rossi is a bit of a joke now... enough people are tired of him on the state-wide level that he would have too difficult of a time re-branding himself. Truthfully I think that a lesser-known candidate would have a better chance. Too bad the republican bench is freakishly short/crazy in Washington as of late. Maybe they can get Pam Roach to run, that would be hilarious.
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Quote from: Dan the Roman on February 17, 2010, 07:11:39 am
Really, I used to be a big defender of Rassmussen, but now him claiming to be a "media company", and starting to move into push poll territory, I am becoming quite suspicious of his timely polls. I bet we will see a major GOP lead inhis next Indianna one that will not appear in anyone elses polls when they get around to looking at it.
Yeah, I can't think of any good reason to be polling Rossi for WA Senate. The guy is at best a has-been.
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Good news, very good.
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Quote from: Dan the Roman on February 17, 2010, 07:11:39 am
Really, I used to be a big defender of Rassmussen, but now him claiming to be a "media company", and starting to move into push poll territory, I am becoming quite suspicious of his timely polls. I bet we will see a major GOP lead inhis next Indianna one that will not appear in anyone elses polls when they get around to looking at it.
Do you know what the definition of a push poll is?
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pragmatic liberal
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Quote from: Dan the Roman on February 17, 2010, 07:11:39 am
Really, I used to be a big defender of Rassmussen, but now him claiming to be a "media company", and starting to move into push poll territory, I am becoming quite suspicious of his timely polls. I bet we will see a major GOP lead inhis next Indianna one that will not appear in anyone elses polls when they get around to looking at it.
That's the thing. Rasmussen's polling is quite accurate as the election heats up, but this early in the cycle it really does seem like he's push-polling to help Republican recruitment and drive the media narrative. I'm not saying he's faking his polls, but it seems like he uses a very tight likely voter screen that's sampling Republicans very strongly.
That isn't to say that Democrats aren't in trouble in Colorado, Pennsylvania, Illinois and Indiana. It's just that his polling this far out doesn't really seem that reflective of what will happen in November. Democratic mobilization alone will change the dynamics of those races.
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February 21, 2010, 12:01:09 am »
While Rasmussen's actions lately seem to be aimed at pushing the top-tier Republican candidates to be entering the race in heavily Democratic states, but puh-lease do NOT call that "push-polling." FYI,
most push-polls do not even bother to collect the results as they are not even conducted in a scientific fashion
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olawakandi
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February 21, 2010, 12:24:20 am »
I know that in a lot of the tossup races there is the teabag or libertarian party on the ballot like in states in NV and OH. The GOP aren't going to sweep every tossup race and win 7-9 seats to regain control, so there has to be push polling to push more states like Patti Murray in the tossup column. I think a 4-6 net gain for the GOP is more likely than sweeping every competetive race.
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February 21, 2010, 12:31:20 am »
Quote from: CultureKing on February 18, 2010, 03:41:06 pm
Rossi is a bit of a joke now... enough people are tired of him on the state-wide level that he would have too difficult of a time re-branding himself. Truthfully I think that a lesser-known candidate would have a better chance. Too bad the republican bench is freakishly short/crazy in Washington as of late. Maybe they can get Pam Roach to run, that would be hilarious.
How come Rossi almost became Governor in 2004?
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CultureKing
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Quote from: The Time Traveler on February 21, 2010, 12:31:20 am
Quote from: CultureKing on February 18, 2010, 03:41:06 pm
Rossi is a bit of a joke now... enough people are tired of him on the state-wide level that he would have too difficult of a time re-branding himself. Truthfully I think that a lesser-known candidate would have a better chance. Too bad the republican bench is freakishly short/crazy in Washington as of late. Maybe they can get Pam Roach to run, that would be hilarious.
How come Rossi almost became Governor in 2004?
Because he was able to brand himself as a moderate and Gregoire ran a horrible campaign. His actions after the election that held up the final results until next June definitely hurt him, as did his four year campaign to try to defeat Gregoire in the re-match.
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February 21, 2010, 04:12:08 pm »
If Rossi loses yet another race I'll laugh.
Gregoire is a joke.
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Quote from: NiK on February 21, 2010, 04:12:08 pm
If Rossi loses yet another race I'll laugh.
Gregoire is a joke.
Yet Murray is a far better campaigner and politician.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Rossi has always seemed to me to be a very grounded politician who takes calculated risks, not one who goes on quixotic quests to beat established partisan politicians.
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February 22, 2010, 06:25:10 am »
Rossi is very similar to Nethercut's both have similar governing tactics and campaign styles and both were able to be flush with cash but couldn't overcome the Dems in WA. I think Rossi will run a Nethercut type of campaign and Murry will win.
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Rossi keeps saying he has no interest in running, FWIW.
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