Why didn't John Kerry get a post-convention bounce?

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The electorate was very polarized Bush didnt get a bounce either. And Dole wasnt a bad candidate he was about the best the GOP had that yea, and um Carter was elected President and had a lead going into the final days of 1980, so I wouldnt say he was bad either.

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The electorate was very polarized Bush didnt get a bounce either. And Dole wasnt a bad candidate he was about the best the GOP had that yea, and um Carter was elected President and had a lead going into the final days of 1980, so I wouldnt say he was bad either.

I remember Bush taking a 16 point lead after his convention when Kerry fell into the 30's.

The biggest lead Bush ever had was about 9 points at it evaporated over night when Kerry slaughtered Bush in that first debate over foreign policy and Iraq. That debate put Kerry back in the race. If had been anybody else that year besides Kerry running, Bush would have lost by double digits.

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Lol Im a hack? What you describe your self as, lol I can think of several things, but unlike you I have the ability to think for myself instead of what the GOP tells me. And ya Kerry embaressed Bush in that first debate over night Bush's lead went from 9 points to tied, and Gephart, Edwards, Gore, Clinton, Bayh and I can name a few more would have taken him to the woodshed. I mean geez  Derek he barely beat one of the worst candidates in modern history, a real candidate would have hammered him.

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Lol Im a hack? What you describe your self as, lol I can think of several things, but unlike you I have the ability to think for myself instead of what the GOP tells me. And ya Kerry embaressed Bush in that first debate over night Bush's lead went from 9 points to tied, and Gephart, Edwards, Gore, Clinton, Bayh and I can name a few more would have taken him to the woodshed. I mean geez  Derek he barely beat one of the worst candidates in modern history, a real candidate would have hammered him.

He wasn't popular then either. All Kerry did was suck up. I remember Kerry referring to a timber company Bush "owns" in the second debate and Bush joking about if anyone wants some wood.

No Kerry wasnt popular thats why anyone else woulda hammered that moron.

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Lol Im a hack? What you describe your self as, lol I can think of several things, but unlike you I have the ability to think for myself instead of what the GOP tells me. And ya Kerry embaressed Bush in that first debate over night Bush's lead went from 9 points to tied, and Gephart, Edwards, Gore, Clinton, Bayh and I can name a few more would have taken him to the woodshed. I mean geez  Derek he barely beat one of the worst candidates in modern history, a real candidate would have hammered him.

He wasn't popular then either. All Kerry did was suck up. I remember Kerry referring to a timber company Bush "owns" in the second debate and Bush joking about if anyone wants some wood.

No Kerry wasnt popular thats why anyone else woulda hammered that moron.

Stop misreading me. I meant Bush wasn't popular. Kerry was never popular outside of the yacht clubs in New England.

 

Right thats why I am saying anyone beside Kerry, like Bayh, Clinton, Gore even Edwards, Kephardt would have hammered that moron.

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Anybody would have beaten that moron, Gore would have crushed him.

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Anybody would have beaten that moron, Gore would have crushed him.

Stop hacking. Bush was very popular and unbeatable until the middle of the democratic primaries.

UMM no he wasnt not by long shot his popularity had fell above 50 percent before then, you dont go from being popular and unbeatable to barley winning against a horrible candidate.

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 Bush was one of the most dishonest, dirtiest, nastiest campaigners ever. I remember in south carolina in 2000 when he played the race card by putting out fliers that McCain had fathered a black child. Made Ann Richards out to be a lesbian in 1994, was behind the swift boat ads. Is that friendly Derek? REALLY? I MEAN REALLY? Karl Rove ran such nice campaigns.Would you please quit posting this deranged bs you put out. You cant believe this crap that write do you?The only, I mean the only reason Bush won in 2004 was because the gay marriage ban was on the ballot in so many states and it brought the evangelicals out in droves.

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Bush was one of the most dishonest, dirtiest, nastiest campaigners ever. I remember in south carolina in 2000 when he played the race card by putting out fliers that McCain had fathered a black child. Made Ann Richards out to be a lesbian in 1994, was behind the swift boat ads. Is that friendly Derek? REALLY? I MEAN REALLY? Karl Rove ran such nice campaigns.Would you please quit posting this deranged bs you put out. You cant believe this crap that write do you?The only, I mean the only reason Bush won in 2004 was because the gay marriage ban was on the ballot in so many states and it brought the evangelicals out in droves.

Oh yes he was behind the swift boat ads right. I believe he denounced them. Ann Richards was an old batalax and a crab tree who couldn't even solve Waco without big brother stepping in. Those flyers weren't from Bush either. Karl Rove is a true American hero.

LOL Yet again another deranged bs comment from Derek.

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Get real dude, Karl Rove was behind all of that, it had his markings all over it.

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LOL no there werent any attack ads, just a bunch of hipocrits wearing bandaids with purple hearts in them. Probably one of the single most disgraceful displays I have ever seen.

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LOL he always does that. He just makes this crap up as he goes. All of his arguments are  just made up and he will finish with stuff like "they dont teach that in schools anymore". LOL I would like to know what they taught him. And he doesnt even know what the definition of treason is.

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LOL he always does that. He just makes this crap up as he goes. All of his arguments are  just made up and he will finish with stuff like "they dont teach that in schools anymore". LOL I would like to know what they taught him. And he doesnt even know what the definition of treason is.

Derek is just a right-wing pundit that echoes all of Fox News's talking points in this Forum.

Some of his stuff is so ridiculous that fox's talking points wouldnt even say. I swear sometimes I am floored by what he says. I dont mind right wing and left wingers opinions if they can atleast make a sound arguement. He just pulls stuff out of left field.

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LOL he always does that. He just makes this crap up as he goes. All of his arguments are  just made up and he will finish with stuff like "they dont teach that in schools anymore". LOL I would like to know what they taught him. And he doesnt even know what the definition of treason is.

Derek is just a right-wing pundit that echoes all of Fox News's talking points in this Forum.

Some of his stuff is so ridiculous that fox's talking points wouldnt even say. I swear sometimes I am floored by what he says. I dont mind right wing and left wingers opinions if they can atleast make a sound arguement. He just pulls stuff out of left field.

Some of the stuff I say? Like what?

Just about everything you say makes no sense and is made up, we should make a forum just for that. I dont mind a right winger or a liberal who has an opinion that can be backed up by fact and logic, but  you write some of the  most  ridiculous things I have ever seen, it really is an insult to peoples intelligence.

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Anybody would have beaten that moron, Gore would have crushed him.

Actually, that's false. Despite Bush Jr.'s incomptence and lack of intellect, he knew how to run a good and extremely nasty and dishonest campaign. He would have beaten a lot of candidates with those kinds of campaign skills. Gore might have beat Bush Jr., but also might not have. It depends on what kind of campaign he would have ran. I mean, after all, Gore did lose in 2000 when all the factors were in his favor.

Bush ran a very friendly campaign.

I'd replace the word friendly with either "scary", "nasty", or "dishonest".

If the truth is scary for you then I can't help you. Sometimes people need to be scared if that's how they remember what they're up against and nothing else distracts them from their MTV.

This post is ironic since the only way Bush won (or even was competitive) is that he knew how to appeal to certain types of people who rely on their fears and intuition.

The only reason 2004 was remotely close was because the gay marriage amendment was on the ballot and it brought the evangelicals out in droves.

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LOL he always does that. He just makes this crap up as he goes. All of his arguments are  just made up and he will finish with stuff like "they dont teach that in schools anymore". LOL I would like to know what they taught him. And he doesnt even know what the definition of treason is.

Derek is just a right-wing pundit that echoes all of Fox News's talking points in this Forum.

Some of his stuff is so ridiculous that fox's talking points wouldnt even say. I swear sometimes I am floored by what he says. I dont mind right wing and left wingers opinions if they can atleast make a sound arguement. He just pulls stuff out of left field.

Some of the stuff I say? Like what?

Just about everything you say makes no sense and is made up, we should make a forum just for that. I dont mind a right winger or a liberal who has an opinion that can be backed up by fact and logic, but  you write some of the  most  ridiculous things I have ever seen, it really is an insult to peoples intelligence.

I back up almost all of what I say with some form of reasoning. We happen to differ on Iraq and on Bush.

LOL no dude you dont, you just make stuff up.

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Anybody would have beaten that moron, Gore would have crushed him.

Actually, that's false. Despite Bush Jr.'s incomptence and lack of intellect, he knew how to run a good and extremely nasty and dishonest campaign. He would have beaten a lot of candidates with those kinds of campaign skills. Gore might have beat Bush Jr., but also might not have. It depends on what kind of campaign he would have ran. I mean, after all, Gore did lose in 2000 when all the factors were in his favor.

Bush ran a very friendly campaign.

I'd replace the word friendly with either "scary", "nasty", or "dishonest".

If the truth is scary for you then I can't help you. Sometimes people need to be scared if that's how they remember what they're up against and nothing else distracts them from their MTV.

This post is ironic since the only way Bush won (or even was competitive) is that he knew how to appeal to certain types of people who rely on their fears and intuition.

Bush won by running a positive campaign based on fighting terror, home ownership, and a robust economy.

LOL case in point of ridiculous statements that you make are made up and have no reasoning. Please tell me why you make this stuff up. That campaign was rated as one of the dirtiest in history. Bus ran a negative campaign, the economy was anything but robust, and the housing market was because of Clinton. LOL your make believe world is so funny, dude.

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Please dont tell me your trying to compare the economy in 1996 to 2004. And there was a book written a few years back called the 25 dirtiest races in american history, that covered anywhere from governors, senate and prez elections.And do you try to have things both ways in one sentence you try to give bush credit for the home ownership and then claim clinton for the collapse. And I have Bush for what he did to this great nation. We are a 1,000 times worse off than when he took office. Greater divide between rich and poor, the povery rate rose, illegal wars, worse economic situation since the great depression, had a net loss of jobs etc, ect.

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Its illegal to invade a soverign nation by the laws of war, and yes the housing meltdown started because of Clinton policies and this recession started when Bush was in office. And as far as sources go you never have any because most of your stuff is made up, but thats ok dude because I have figured out you say this stuff to try to make people mad, lol because no one  could ever  actually believe some of this ridiculous stuff that you write.

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I am talking about the recession that started in 2008. And wow dude yes life was good under Clinton and horrible under Bush. Worse president ever by far.

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Lol um no the economy did not go into shamble because the democrats were in office ten months. I have heard economist say that the economy is 2 years behind whats actually going on. And no the loans that Dodd and Obama did not cause the economic failure. And the president is the captain of the ship.

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I believe 2 would be more accurate, and it probably started happening in early 1999. And there are other factors that play into the economy besides unemployment. Like consumer confidence, consumer spending and inflation

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Yes but 2004 was a very polarizing year, there were not many undecideds that year.