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« on: February 22, 2010, 06:43:10 PM »

I think he picked him in like July if I recall correctly, which is pretty early, at least with respect to other VP picks.

Why?
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2010, 06:47:02 PM »

Maybe because he wanted to remove the suspense in an attempt to get an immediate boost in the polls. I think Kerry should have picked a woman, though. It might have delivered him OH by energizing the female vote.
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2010, 09:17:46 PM »

The Democratic Convention in 2004 was in July.  If he didn't pick one then, he wouldn't have had a running mate at the convention.

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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2010, 09:28:11 PM »

The Democratic Convention in 2004 was in July.  If he didn't pick one then, he wouldn't have had a running mate at the convention.



He could have picked right before the convention and announced it right at the convention, like Bush Sr. did in 1988.
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2010, 10:01:08 PM »

The Democratic Convention in 2004 was in July.  If he didn't pick one then, he wouldn't have had a running mate at the convention.



He could have picked right before the convention and announced it right at the convention, like Bush Sr. did in 1988.

He still would've had to pick him in July instead of the usual August. 

It was just another one of the many mistakes by Terry McAuliffe and the DNC that doomed Kerry
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2010, 06:12:26 PM »

Kerry picked Edwards like a week before the convention.
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2010, 11:59:03 AM »

Yea I don't remember him picking Edwards that much earlier than other candidates. Maybe he just couldn't resist Edwards' looks and charm lol.  What a crook Edwards turned out to be and I'm happy it happened to him for being such a hypocrite.  That was Kerry's best pick for a VP and they were good friends in the primaries that year.
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2012, 10:33:25 PM »

It was about three weeks before the convention, and was thus a bit earlier than the norm, which has been less than a week before the convention, sometimes not even until the first or second day of the convention.

The pros of picking a running mate early when running against an incumbent President in particular is avoiding being "outnumbered" and having someone else to assist with fundraising and campaigning. The downside is giving the opposition more time to attack and research the VP choice--and of course, waiting longer has the additional advantage of getting a better feel for what help you need and where in the campaign.

Since Edwards had been pretty well vetted throughout the Presidential campaign--remember that he didn't meet Rielle Hunter until 2006--Kerry likely figured that the pros outweighed the cons.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2012, 06:05:20 AM »

I think the thinking was also that it would give him two separate bumps in the polls: Once for his VP unveiling, and then again for the convention.  But, IIRC, that didn't work, as he didn't get any noticeable bump from the convention.
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2012, 10:52:48 AM »

It was obviously the wrong pick, it gave Kerry just like Lieberman gave Gore a temporary bounce, but once again Bob Graham someone that would have beaten Cheney in the debate and go toe to toe with should have been picked. Edwards just reminded people the lack of nat'l security experience he had.
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2012, 11:30:33 AM »

It was obviously the wrong pick, it gave Kerry just like Lieberman gave Gore a temporary bounce, but once again Bob Graham someone that would have beaten Cheney in the debate and go toe to toe with should have been picked. Edwards just reminded people the lack of nat'l security experience he had.

Also, Graham would probably be able to deliver a swing state of Florida, considering his great popularity down there. Edwards did deliver absolutely nothing to the ticket.
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 03:37:19 PM »

While not overly popular in NC at the time, Edwards did have some national popularity and gave Kerry some problems in the primary.  Plus, Kerry needed someone to balance out the "MA liberal" label and figured Edwards was a good choice from down south. 

The irony is, Edwards made some comments after the election that Kerry ran a very poor "map" campaign and allowed Bush way too much offensive time on the map, attacking Kerry in bluish states (MN, MI, PA, etc) rather than battling Bush in his tight states. In addition, Edwards was also pissed (as was Mark Warner) that Kerry gave up in VA, which was winnable for the democrats in 2004.
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2012, 09:30:16 PM »

While not overly popular in NC at the time, Edwards did have some national popularity and gave Kerry some problems in the primary.  Plus, Kerry needed someone to balance out the "MA liberal" label and figured Edwards was a good choice from down south. 

The irony is, Edwards made some comments after the election that Kerry ran a very poor "map" campaign and allowed Bush way too much offensive time on the map, attacking Kerry in bluish states (MN, MI, PA, etc) rather than battling Bush in his tight states. In addition, Edwards was also pissed (as was Mark Warner) that Kerry gave up in VA, which was winnable for the democrats in 2004.

I'm not sure the Kerry campaign could have done a worse job in VA and WV in 2004.  They were both there for him, and the WAY which he showed his political incompetence was a huge factor in the MOV for Bush in both states. 
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2012, 03:17:12 AM »

He should've picked Clinton to run with him.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2012, 02:50:26 PM »

He should've picked Clinton to run with him.
Nah, too soon after the 90s.
"Why did Kerry pick Edwards" is a good question. The answer is that he was young and pretty and folksy, and he had cute kids. Other than that, he was a complete lightweight saying things like (paraphrasing) "the government should start infiltrating terrorist groups to spy on them" as if this was the most brilliant original idea ever, or "these people in wheelchairs will get up and walk again because of stem cells if we win."
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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2013, 08:30:04 PM »

Also, he probably wanted Edwards to help attack Bush-Cheney. It was 1:2 before, with Edwards it would be 2:2
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2013, 03:03:13 PM »

Axelrod was in charge of edwards campaign as well. After the reagan funeral, bush was in control and edwards newface. A bounce was received from edwards but not one from convention. Due to ridge terrror threats.
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2013, 07:58:48 PM »

If I remember correctly, the Democrats had their convention very early. Only about 2 weeks went by between picking John Edwards and the DNC.
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2015, 08:08:49 PM »

Kerry picked Edwards early due to the fact that the Democratic convention would start July 26. Kerry wanted the VP pick out of the way so the ticket could fundraise and attack Bush/Cheney '04 right away.
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2015, 10:05:40 PM »

It really should of been Gephardt, but Edwards was a new face and he was from NC. Having a senator from the south would have, he thought got him votes in Ohio.

But, the swith boating of John Kerry and Edwards disappeared during that time frame.  Dems needed an experienced politician like a Gephardt who would have came out and fought against those attacks. Instead the damage was already done, before John McCain spoke.

But, more union labor could have came from the Gephardt camp or Graham or Warner camp to put Dems on top in IOWA and New Mexico and even OHIO.
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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2015, 03:13:09 AM »

His New England arrogance thought he couldn't do anything wrong. Maybe they were in love with each other. They both waffled on gay marriage. Couldn't it be the case that they wanted to be married to each other? Edwards certainly wasn't in love with his wife.
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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2015, 04:04:18 AM »
« Edited: April 15, 2015, 06:26:39 AM by OC »

Kerry, was a boring candidate and he was behind in key states like WI, and picking someone youthful like Edwards, was to add energy, not arrogance to his campaign.

But, voters saw both of the candidates as trial lawyers and arrogant, together, he should have went and told Mark Warner, who was Edwards lite, who refused to run, and would have brought VA and OH along to win the election; for the good of your country, you must become the VP nominee; instead he surrendered to Warner, and we never heard from him during the campaign.

At least Warner should of campaigned for Kerry in OH, and Bob Graham should have been selected as VP to go after Cheney on Abu Gharib.
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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2016, 07:51:56 PM »

Gephardt was definitely who Kerry should have gone with.
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