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« on: February 23, 2010, 03:33:32 AM »

There was no "clear good side and bad side" in World War II. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2010, 08:10:14 PM »

Stalin was worse than Hitler. Period.
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2010, 11:32:25 PM »

Stalin was worse than Hitler. Period.
Even if he was (by some silly attempt to objectively calculate such things), we didn't go to war with Hitler because he was "worse" than Stalin, we went to war with him because he was immediately threatening to turn the world into a smoldering ruin.

We went to war with Hitler because we were manipulated into it by a regime with Soviet sympathies.
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2010, 12:53:55 AM »

Just pointing out violence is evil no matter what flag its under.
Violence is not always evil and it kind of makes me sad that you feel that way.

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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2010, 01:05:45 AM »

Just pointing out violence is evil no matter what flag its under.
Violence is not always evil and it kind of makes me sad that you feel that way.

Sick.

If you believed violence was always evil you wouldn't be a gun nut.

Violence is evil. Being a "gun nut" (which is news to me) is not.
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2010, 01:09:24 AM »

I don't understand how violence is evil when it can obviously be used for good.

Violence itself is evil regardless of the outcome.
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2010, 03:40:12 AM »

British war-mongers and Soviet imperialists being the bad-side?

Duh.
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2010, 04:00:06 AM »

The Allies were the good side.  No debate.  Soviets were bad, but the Soviets were never truly on the Allies side.  

If Hitler hadn't broken the Non-Aggression Pact and continued to focus on the Western Front, I think they would've eventually joined the Axis powers.  And even if he still waged war against them, if the Soviet Union was powerful enough at the time to destroy Germany on its own, it would have never sought such alliances.  They  only cared about themselves.  

Had the Russian atomic bomb been ready to go in 1941, I have no doubt in my mind Stalin would've flattened Berlin and the German countryside and called it a day.  The future of France, Poland, Italy, and the Japanese Empire was of no concern to him.

Huh? Why would Stalin would stop there rather than march right on to the Atlantic?
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2010, 12:44:03 AM »

So the lives of non-Americans are so valuable that 400,000 Americans have to be sent to die to protect them?

I would like you to know that you are beyond all forms of parody.

You didn't answer the inherent contradiction of killing people to save lives. Roll Eyes

And you aren't answering to the fact that you think that American lives are worth more than others'. You are basically saying that it wasn't worth it to go to war in Europe (which was almost entirely unpreventable) to save millions of lives, at the cost thousands of American soldiers. Don't get me wrong, I don't want any American to die, but without the American offensive, the Germans would have been able to hold the WWII Western Front. This would have led to more than just the 400,000 american deaths.

I didn't say that the lives of Americans are worth more than foreigners. Is it ethical to push someone in front of a bus to prevent the bus from crashing into something else?

Yes.

No it's not.
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