Are you greatly bothered by the Dachau massacre?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_massacre

Honestly no. After all these guys were SS guards at a concentration camp, it's not like they were regular German soldiers. Furthermore you can't exactly blame the way the freed prisoners reacted when armed...

I bet that Aldo Raine (if he were a real person) would love to give a medal to every soldier present in it (well assuming that it happened in his reality.)

[Хahar 🤔]

Aye.

[Bo]

Aye.

Fascist-Lover!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dead0man]

The inmates that did some killing when given weapons I have no problem at all with.  They likely knew better than anybody which particular guards needed to be killed and it was probably a little therapeutic for them.  The US Army soldiers doing some killing, no, that ain't right.  Shooting unarmed prisoners is always wrong (assuming they aren't trying to escape or do harm to others or whatever).  Let the judges, jurists and jailers deal with the neutered evil, it's not the job of the grunts in the field.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

It was certainly a clear demonstration that we are no better than them.

[dead0man]

Yeah, killing 30-50 guards at a concentration camp on liberation day is the exact same as killing millions of innocents at a concentration camp.

[Earth]

It was certainly a clear demonstration that we are no better than them.

I agree with this.

Yeah, killing 30-50 guards at a concentration camp on liberation day is the exact same as killing millions of innocents at a concentration camp.

because morality is judged on sheer number, right?

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Revenge killings in general bother me, so yes.

[dead0man]

It was certainly a clear demonstration that we are no better than them.

I agree with this.

Yeah, killing 30-50 guards at a concentration camp on liberation day is the exact same as killing millions of innocents at a concentration camp.

because morality is judged on sheer number, right?

A few soldiers without orders killing a few guards makes us (whether he means the West or the US it doesn't matter...I'm sure he was just bashing the US though) no better than them (German concentration gaurds, a job nobody/few in the German Army was forced to do)?  You might as well say LBJ was no better than Pol Pot.

[Earth]

A few soldiers without orders killing a few guards makes us (whether he means the West or the US it doesn't matter...I'm sure he was just bashing the US though) no better than them (German concentration gaurds, a job nobody/few in the German Army was forced to do)?  You might as well say LBJ was no better than Pol Pot.

I seriously have to wonder what exactly the difference is between regular military, and those of the third reich that would set us apart so wildly as to be unable to compare. America, nor any other country, has no moral high ground to claim.

In before you tell me every soldier of the reich had a hand in the holocaust.

[Хahar 🤔]

Aye.

Fascist-Lover!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As it happens, I was responding to your question.

[Magic 8-Ball]

     Revenge killings in general bother me, so yes.

Especially when the victims are no longer a threat.

[The Hype]

Yes

[dead0man]

A few soldiers without orders killing a few guards makes us (whether he means the West or the US it doesn't matter...I'm sure he was just bashing the US though) no better than them (German concentration gaurds, a job nobody/few in the German Army was forced to do)?  You might as well say LBJ was no better than Pol Pot.

I seriously have to wonder what exactly the difference is between regular military, and those of the third reich that would set us apart so wildly as to be unable to compare. America, nor any other country, has no moral high ground to claim.

In before you tell me every soldier of the reich had a hand in the holocaust.

Well I'm confused.  Maybe you missed my first post.

The US Army soldiers doing some killing, no, that ain't right.  Shooting unarmed prisoners is always wrong (assuming they aren't trying to escape or do harm to others or whatever).  Let the judges, jurists and jailers deal with the neutered evil, it's not the job of the grunts in the field.

Any soldiers killing unarmed POWs is wrong.  Period.  But its less wrong than being a guard at a concentration camp.  Just like jaywalking isn't as wrong as arson.  Killing a bad guy is wrong.  Killing a good guy/innocent is more wrong.

And I've never been one to blame the regular German Army for WWII.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I obviously don't approve of killing POWs, but, no, I'm not bothered by this incident in the slightest.

[minionofmidas]

No, because I never heard of it.

[k-onmmunist]

Yes, it was a war crime.

[Earth]

Any soldiers killing unarmed POWs is wrong.  Period.  But its less wrong than being a guard at a concentration camp.

Here's where we differ; simply being a guard doesn't make one morally culpable if atrocities happen where you're stationed. The former is direct involvement, obviously. I don't see how the latter is worse.

[dead0man]

From what I've read, working at the concentration camps was voluntary.  The guards knew what they were getting into and knew what they were doing.  There are some less wrong reasons to shoot POWs.  A small detachment behind enemy lines without the ability to properly keep the POW detained...still wrong, but "less" wrong.  Plus POWs are in the military, not innocents (good guys or bad guys).  The guards at Dachau were directly involved in the killing of innocents.  They might not have turned on the gas, but they did lead them (remember, innocents, not surrendered combatants...although that did happen occasionally too) into the chambers at rifle point.

[James Rivington]

No, not bothered much at all.

[Lief 🗽]

Murdering POWs bothers me, yes.

[ARescan]

Murder is bad. So yes.

[Free Trade is managed by the invisible hand.]

I can understand why the killings occurred, but I think killing is immoral.

[Middle-aged Europe]

As a matter of principle, perhaps. You have to trust your soldiers that they always follow the Geneva conventions, the rules of engagement, and the military code of justice. You don't want soldiers who break the law everytime they feel that it's justified or convenient. At best it could be called vigilantism.

[??????????]

They were nazis, who cares?